...he was an arrogant, rich, pretty boy type kid and carried himself like it. Multiple popped collars and such.
I heard he's a dick and just a pompus ass. The only guys that liked him were his OL because he bought their friendship by buying them meals and buying the food for their much publicized cookouts.
He had his model gf, and carried himself as bigger than the program.
Not sure if true...but the stuff people say about him aren't always good.
Seems odd that only Dennard has been picked from MSU so far through half the 5th round, considering we all know that Dantonio is able to take any 2-star recruit and turn him into first-round, pro-bowl talent.
Yeah, Rose Bowls were never fun anyways.
That and steroids.
To be fair they had a bunch of impact younger guys - Calhoun is projected top 10 overall next year as of right now, and Waynes their other CB is projected into the 1st round by Walterfootball similar to position of Dennard. So that's 3 1st rounders on one defense in 2 years which is not bad. How many 1st rounders did UM's 1997 defense have in 1997-1998 drafts?
Max B is a slow-ish LB so his game is great for the Big 10 where being slow is cool but in the NFL is probably a 1st/2nd down MLB who stuffs runs well and plays special teams but can't run with a NFL TE.... and if Denicos Allen was 6'1 rather than 5'9 or whatever he truly is I think he'd have been drafted in the first 3 rounds. He makes plays - just is very undersized. Their DTs graduated but were not the heart of that defense like a Worthy - they just were there to do nothing but completely shut down the run; that is how that defense works... erase the middle of the field, especially the run and let the corners play 1 v 1 outside, being physical, disrupting at the LOS, against a bunch of not ready for prime time Big 10 QBs...
There might be 2 real NFL QBs starting right now in the Big 10 and one was a freshman last year and the other plays for MSU. Guys like Braxton and Devin are in the next tier, college QB guys whose games right now probably don't translate well at the next level due to inconsistencies. Indiana probably had the more dangerous QBs against a MSU system since they actually have a system where out patterns are common... which is MSU's weakness on defense. In other conferences with more pass oriented teams and NFL QB prospects like the Big 12 or SEC or Pac 12, MSU's system would be challenged a lot more.
Like it or hate it Dantonio coached up a lot of 3 stars and most 3 stars are 3 stars because either they are not developed well in HS or lack elite athleticsm. 17 year olds who have athleticsm are going to shine and get those 5 stars and high 4s. The NFL is all about elite athleticism. The Lions drafted some dude out of Oklahoma a few years ago as a LB in the 5th round who was the all time leading tackler at the school but he couldn't find the field at all due to athleticism. Doesn't mean he wasn't a great college player. To that end, Dennard and Waynes were both 2 star nobodies from the backwoods of Georgia and Wisconsin who were very good athletes but pretty average football players - and now both going into the 1st-2nd round back to back it appears.
I won't disagree about Calhoun, but I'm not sold those corners are going to be as highly regarded as some early prognostications have them, especially given the fact that MSU's highly-aggressive defense may allow them to play tighter on players than you can get away when the offensive line can hold up against the rush. I may be totally wrong, but I think it is telling that all of the MSU players who were legit top performers in college (save for Dennard) didn't get drafted, and most didn't even get a sniff.
I think MSU should be commended for maximizing the talent, but I guess I view their success with these underrated players with a jaundiced eye, as it flies in the face of years of football that basically showed elite defenses need elite players, and most elite players are reasonably easy to identify early on. I'm not saying MSU can't buck the trend for a bit, but even with their recent success I'm not sold that defense is going to continue to be as dominant as they are, and it only takes a couple of misses to turn a great defense into a good one, which at MSU would be the difference in 3-4 games a year.
As for the 98 draft, there were 2 players drafted the following year - Woodson obviously, and Glen Steele in the 4th round. I knew there were two, but for some reason I thought Marcus Ray snuck in.
Also he is no dummy. Princeton grad.
At least we won't have to listen to Gus Johnson scream his name every time he makes a catch anymore.
Suprised David Fales hasn't went yet. Would be a good project QB for some team.
7 ND players. They are going to take a step back this year. They don't have the depth to replace those guys.
He should be a good third or fourth receiver for the Lions.
The only miss was the secondary.
You don't like Lawson?
I love how no NFL team wants to draft Sam because of all the media coverage they'd get. However, if no NFL team drafts Sam, it's going to create a far larger media shit stom, and it wont be positive.
Means he's probably too expensive to hire. Any goodwill one of the 32 would garner by drafting him would be far outweighed by the grief they'd get when the time came to cut, bench, or trade him. The team that doesn't draft him is one of the anonymous 32, the team that lets him go is the one pariah of 32.
We'll find out from the Rams what will happen.
Scouts say he is a tweener. More a term you hear in basketball, but it does happen in football. At this point its often better for a player to go undrafted than to go in the 7th because you get to pick your situation.
Stil think someone will take a shot with him as a situational pass rusher
but I don't think he's cut out to be an NFL pass rusher
A tweener? That's usually a word you use for someone who's size puts them between positions like S/LB, or LB/DE. Hard to use that word for a guy that'd be a short WR. That's suggesting if he was shorter or smaller he'd be a perfect fit for another position.
That said wherever he goes he should be a steal.
That's kind of the book on him in college. Guy who maxed out his skills and outworked people, but he just isn't that athletic.
If you look at ESPN's board they list the top 15 players available and he is not among them. So they aren't that surprised that he hasn't been drafted.
At this point, there's a ton of uncertainty about who is, say, the 233rd best player and should be taken next. Not like the 1st round in which their is a fair amount of agreement as to who belongs there.
Lions take a kicker.
Its interesting that a disproportionate amount of the players that are falling are SEC guys. Overrated.
to kick game winning FGs?
They need to bring back kickalicious
He's an NFL talent, this is crazy. No maize and blue glasses. The kid would be perfect playing in the slot for teams that utilize that position with small dudes.
has a long history of ignoring actual football ability and focusing on draft combine measurables. They would rather draft a 6' 3" receiver who really can't play football at all than a 5' 9" guy who was a star for his team.
L'Damian Washington, Antonio Richardson, Marcus Roberson, Jackson Jeffcoat, Adrian Hubbard, Craig Loston, Kelcy Quarles, James Gayle and Ahmad Dixon are other big names still on the board.
...and Michael Sam
How has Gallon not been drafted yet?!
NFL teams don't always look at football talent when taking players. If you don't "look" the part, your talent is mostly irrelevant.