12pm - 7:30/8pm
ESPN and NFL Network.
Tip it back every time you hear "Michael Sam" before he's actually drafted...
I think, in the end, AJ McCarron would've been the better choice for insta-drunkness.
Here's a picture of her:
Hoping Gallon gets picked. NE or Denver that plays multiple receivers in a bunch set would be nice. Especially since both teams have played relative smurfs (Welker, Edelman).
Shut the fuck up. That's all you guys do is cry like lil school girls
Slight overreaction there...
...with Bacardi 151
I'd have called them all bitches. "Shut the fuck up, all you guys do is cry like lil bitches."
It sounds much more elegant that way
The more you know........
...and it's just as guess.
But he's in the wrong thread and he was trying to respond to the people bitching about the OL in the Schofield thread.
Just a MGoHunch.
Although I like my first one that he's playing the Michael Sam Drinking game and we're 17 minutes into predraft coverage and he's already TANKED!
above posters are wrong. this response was hilarious
4th: S - Ahmad Brooks (Baylor)/Craig Loston (LSU)
4th: WR - Martavious Bryant (Clemson)/Jared Abberderis (Wisconsin)/L'Damian Washington (Mizzou)
5th: CB - One of the 3 Florida CBs
6th: DT - Beau Allen (Wisc)
...or I did, but they only have 2 picks left and they haven't addressed WR or S, so I think they have to do that in the last couple of picks.
Mr e-prediction for the day.
Stuff and things are talked about on the NFL network.
The word "Cannon" wil be used on more than one occasion.
Mike Mayock will like someone more as he watches more tape of them
a Safety and more linemen. if a tall WR falls then take him
The Lions have a good offensive line. What they do is defensive linemen. Fairley and Suh very well might not be here next year and they also need to improve their depth there. DT and DE are both secondary needs.
all I hear is Brown's need WR, one suspended probably all year and the other broke his arm. Manziel to Gallon....hope not, at least he'd play but I'd rather not see him there.
With the 1st pick in the MGoBlog draft
Darker Blue selects Mr. Yost
it don't break even...
Skins need a d-lineman. Surprised they've taken two o-linemen, but what do I know. I kind of liked the Trent Murphy pick (Stanford OLB - led NCAA in sacks, apparently).
Hmm, a cornerback...fine with me.
That's the guy I wanted for the Lions. We'll see how he compares to Swansen
...are KILLING IT! Nice draft thus far. Quality, quanity and need.
S, G, C, and a beefy RB. Defense and Manball to the max.
dang it. i was hoping he would keep dropping to the lions.
MARTAVIS BRYANT YES.
It'd be nice if I didn't see Michigan on the "bad" side of some of these player's highlight reels.
Provided a lot of highlights for their players.
So far, the number of players taken by position or position group (per the draft tracker):
CB - 13 players
LB - 12 players
OL - 24 players
WR - 19 players
TE - 7 players
QB - 6 players
DL - 20 players
RB - 11 players
S - 7 players
It would be interesting to go back about 20 years and figure out the average distribution for the first 4 rounds or so, I would think.
That might be a possibility.
i was thinking the same thing. though i wish the lions would have resigned hill. perfect backup QB, imo.
...let's see who the go with.
Nevin Lawson out of Utah St.
Gotta go QB.
McCarron or Savage IMO...
McShay is going to say "turnstiles for OTs" he's already done it 4-5 times in this draft.
The Lions take a DE over S or even WR.
point. The Lions don't have much depth at DE.
They've still got 1 more pick coming up quick here. I'm hoping for Abbrederis personally, that guy could be a productive 3rd receiver.
Their next pick is in the fifth. This came from the Seattle trade yesterday.
What do you mean nope? I was saying they still have a pick coming up quick, I mean it's only 10 picks after their last 4th round one.
third fourth rounder.
another TE? wtf?
In your dreams Ds are Ts
He's 6'6" and had the 2nd fastest time for a DL at the combine. His 4.58 was only behind Clowney.
The Lions have taken steps to improving their pass rush with Von Noy and Webster. I like it.
I love your positivity.
pick the Lions make as many are wont to do.
I try to look at the reasoning the Lions might be using and go from there. I would have gone with someone different in the 1st and 3rd rounds, but the 4th is a crapshoot anyways. Lawson I'm not sure of, but Webster's athleticism intrigues me which is all I can ask for. I would have preferred Loston or McCarron over Lawson as I think the Lions already have plenty of smallish mid-round corners. But hey, what do I know I'm just a fan.
Lawson is a pretty classic nickel corner and considering how much the Lions love that package, he makes sense.
Didn't they draft a pass rusher with their first pick last year?
Look at Seattle. They have Bennett and Avril as their ends. Both are pass rushers.
Also Ansah is more of a bullrusher than a speed guy.
Minnesota and Utah State now with as many draft picks as Michigan.
He'd be better than stafford tomorrow. Stafford the worst player on the lions.
Your shtick is getting old, dude.
I thought your michigan game day post were bad but this one right here might be the worst post in the history of any boards evvveeer!
Some of those "OPEN Thread" posts during the season were downright awful.
Actually, most of them were. May have been the single worst poster in those threads that didn't get banned/sent to Bolivia.
I thought the QBs from this class with the 5 best careers were going to be (in no order): Manziel, Bridgewater, Carr, Murray and Savage.
Manziel will go to a team willing to build on offense around him. Bridgewater is a lot like Russell Wilson, IMO. Not someone who's going to be a dynamic player, but a leader who can "manage" a game if only called on to throw 18-20 times a game. Carr has the physical tools and I think he learns from his brother. Murray and Savage just had odd college careers but I think they're both solid QBs. I'd like to see Murray go to the Saints and Savage I would've liked to see with the Steelers. Bridgewater would've been better off going to the Texas (personnel wise, not coaching wise). Manziel to the Jags with all that speed they've aquired would've been awesome to watch.
Michigan is getting run through the mud on how they handled Gibbons and this stuff about ND and Shembo is true?!
"Cleared" in so much as nobody did anything about it.
Because when we get in trouble we lay all of our cards on the table and say, "what can we do to make this better?" whereas some other programs deny deny deny, and put a moratorium on ever addressing any wrongdoings until they are absolutely forced to.
Wingo said that he admitted to NFL teams what he did despite being told by ND faculty and staff that he should STFU about the entire thing.
He admitted that he did it and she didn't press charges...and she committed suicide if I'm not mistaken.
I need to research this more, but this sounds AWFUL from what I gathered.
Any news on that trade?
These are the programs that have had DEs drafted so far:
South Carolina, Auburn, Louisville, Notre Dame, Missouri, Oregon State, North Carolina, West Virginia, UCLA, Bloomsburg, Oregon
You can always count on the Lions to do something unusual.
They drafted Chris Greenwood from Albion College in the fifth round.
It really is not that unusual to see a small school player get selected.
Not trying to crap on the point, but there are studs at these small schools, and you can get them later because people have biases.
The NFL Network is killing McCarron. Saying he had poor interviews with teams, coming off as cocky and arrogant (surprise /s) also said he has an upcoming reality show with Katherine Webb, and that he wasn't a well liked teammate.
I'm kind of not surprised. He won and that means something, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be a bit of a jerk.
...he was an arrogant, rich, pretty boy type kid and carried himself like it. Multiple popped collars and such.
I heard he's a dick and just a pompus ass. The only guys that liked him were his OL because he bought their friendship by buying them meals and buying the food for their much publicized cookouts.
He had his model gf, and carried himself as bigger than the program.
Not sure if true...but the stuff people say about him aren't always good.
Seems odd that only Dennard has been picked from MSU so far through half the 5th round, considering we all know that Dantonio is able to take any 2-star recruit and turn him into first-round, pro-bowl talent.
Yeah, their "1 out of every 3 plays on defense being a penalty things"not working out so well for them.
Yeah, Rose Bowls were never fun anyways.
I hate to make excuses, but I have to believe there's something to this. I think Dennard is gonna be a huge bust for the same reason. It's gonna be a rude awakening when he gets flagged for his normal technique.
That and steroids.
To be fair they had a bunch of impact younger guys - Calhoun is projected top 10 overall next year as of right now, and Waynes their other CB is projected into the 1st round by Walterfootball similar to position of Dennard. So that's 3 1st rounders on one defense in 2 years which is not bad. How many 1st rounders did UM's 1997 defense have in 1997-1998 drafts?
Max B is a slow-ish LB so his game is great for the Big 10 where being slow is cool but in the NFL is probably a 1st/2nd down MLB who stuffs runs well and plays special teams but can't run with a NFL TE.... and if Denicos Allen was 6'1 rather than 5'9 or whatever he truly is I think he'd have been drafted in the first 3 rounds. He makes plays - just is very undersized. Their DTs graduated but were not the heart of that defense like a Worthy - they just were there to do nothing but completely shut down the run; that is how that defense works... erase the middle of the field, especially the run and let the corners play 1 v 1 outside, being physical, disrupting at the LOS, against a bunch of not ready for prime time Big 10 QBs...
There might be 2 real NFL QBs starting right now in the Big 10 and one was a freshman last year and the other plays for MSU. Guys like Braxton and Devin are in the next tier, college QB guys whose games right now probably don't translate well at the next level due to inconsistencies. Indiana probably had the more dangerous QBs against a MSU system since they actually have a system where out patterns are common... which is MSU's weakness on defense. In other conferences with more pass oriented teams and NFL QB prospects like the Big 12 or SEC or Pac 12, MSU's system would be challenged a lot more.
Like it or hate it Dantonio coached up a lot of 3 stars and most 3 stars are 3 stars because either they are not developed well in HS or lack elite athleticsm. 17 year olds who have athleticsm are going to shine and get those 5 stars and high 4s. The NFL is all about elite athleticism. The Lions drafted some dude out of Oklahoma a few years ago as a LB in the 5th round who was the all time leading tackler at the school but he couldn't find the field at all due to athleticism. Doesn't mean he wasn't a great college player. To that end, Dennard and Waynes were both 2 star nobodies from the backwoods of Georgia and Wisconsin who were very good athletes but pretty average football players - and now both going into the 1st-2nd round back to back it appears.
I won't disagree about Calhoun, but I'm not sold those corners are going to be as highly regarded as some early prognostications have them, especially given the fact that MSU's highly-aggressive defense may allow them to play tighter on players than you can get away when the offensive line can hold up against the rush. I may be totally wrong, but I think it is telling that all of the MSU players who were legit top performers in college (save for Dennard) didn't get drafted, and most didn't even get a sniff.
I think MSU should be commended for maximizing the talent, but I guess I view their success with these underrated players with a jaundiced eye, as it flies in the face of years of football that basically showed elite defenses need elite players, and most elite players are reasonably easy to identify early on. I'm not saying MSU can't buck the trend for a bit, but even with their recent success I'm not sold that defense is going to continue to be as dominant as they are, and it only takes a couple of misses to turn a great defense into a good one, which at MSU would be the difference in 3-4 games a year.
As for the 98 draft, there were 2 players drafted the following year - Woodson obviously, and Glen Steele in the 4th round. I knew there were two, but for some reason I thought Marcus Ray snuck in.
There are lots of kids that are good enough for college but not the pros. We seem to seeing that.
will do that.
Also he is no dummy. Princeton grad.
At least we won't have to listen to Gus Johnson scream his name every time he makes a catch anymore.
Suprised David Fales hasn't went yet. Would be a good project QB for some team.
Not sure if this was posted before the Bears pick or not but the Bears took him early 6th round.
7 ND players. They are going to take a step back this year. They don't have the depth to replace those guys.
He should be a good third or fourth receiver for the Lions.
The first pick was a little ehhh but the rest I've been very impressed with. A nice change!
The only miss was the secondary.
You don't like Lawson?
I love how no NFL team wants to draft Sam because of all the media coverage they'd get. However, if no NFL team drafts Sam, it's going to create a far larger media shit stom, and it wont be positive.
Also really surprised he hasn't been taken yet. He's be cheap at this point and pass rushers are very valuable in the NFL.
Maybe, but if you give him the chance at this point and then cut him I don't think people would lose their minds. It's the 7th round, and as long as he came out and was diplomatic if let go, I don't see the harm.
To hear Jeremy Gallons name:(
Seriously. How does he not get drafted? Small yes, but man, he's good.
Scouts say he is a tweener. More a term you hear in basketball, but it does happen in football. At this point its often better for a player to go undrafted than to go in the 7th because you get to pick your situation.
Stil think someone will take a shot with him as a situational pass rusher
but I don't think he's cut out to be an NFL pass rusher
A tweener? That's usually a word you use for someone who's size puts them between positions like S/LB, or LB/DE. Hard to use that word for a guy that'd be a short WR. That's suggesting if he was shorter or smaller he'd be a perfect fit for another position.
That said wherever he goes he should be a steal.
That's kind of the book on him in college. Guy who maxed out his skills and outworked people, but he just isn't that athletic.
If you look at ESPN's board they list the top 15 players available and he is not among them. So they aren't that surprised that he hasn't been drafted.
At this point, there's a ton of uncertainty about who is, say, the 233rd best player and should be taken next. Not like the 1st round in which their is a fair amount of agreement as to who belongs there.
Lions take a kicker.
Its interesting that a disproportionate amount of the players that are falling are SEC guys. Overrated.
to kick game winning FGs?
They need to bring back kickalicious
Jeff Janis over Gallon?
Remember when Seantrel Hendersen was a can't miss recruit? He finally got drafted... in Round 7
He's an NFL talent, this is crazy. No maize and blue glasses. The kid would be perfect playing in the slot for teams that utilize that position with small dudes.
has a long history of ignoring actual football ability and focusing on draft combine measurables. They would rather draft a 6' 3" receiver who really can't play football at all than a 5' 9" guy who was a star for his team.
L'Damian Washington, Antonio Richardson, Marcus Roberson, Jackson Jeffcoat, Adrian Hubbard, Craig Loston, Kelcy Quarles, James Gayle and Ahmad Dixon are other big names still on the board.
...and Michael Sam
How has Gallon not been drafted yet?!
NFL teams don't always look at football talent when taking players. If you don't "look" the part, your talent is mostly irrelevant.
...so he can get some money to fix that GRILL!
Whew! Forget about all the other stuff, you can get roasted like any other player...and those teeth look like you've been chewing gravel my man!
Pats took Jeremy Gallon!!!
Gallon to the Patriots!
Wow, Seantrel Henderson a 7th round pick? Remember how disappointed people were when he didn't come here? Would he have even started?
with UDFA work ethics and off-field problems. When he's on, he's the most dominant player on the field. The problem is it rarely happens
Great pick up by the pats.
WOOHOOO Go GALLON!!!
Gallon to Pats at 244.
I think STL will pick Sam with one of their remaining picks (they have the #34 & # 35 pick in round 7). I think being in Missouri would help whatever fears Sam, the community, the team, etc... have. I also think Jeff Fisher is a top notch guy and wouldn't allow any BS to ruin the lockerroom. Plus it gives STL a feel good story considering how well their counterparts in the NFC West did draft wise (49ers killed it imo and AZ & Seattle were solid).
AND A HUGE HOORAY for Mr. Gallon who was drafted while typing this!!!! And to be drafted by NE - catching passes from Brady and a team that has a reputation of drafting/acquiring talent others overlook.
The Jeff Fisher the disiplanarian narrative needs to end. See Alex Olgetree, Janoris Jenkins, and Kenny Britt, who yet again is likely in trouble with the NFL.
Gotta wonder if Brady had a hand in that one. The Patriots are probably better at identifying talent in overlooked players than any other NFL franchise. I'm not sure Gallon could have gone anywhere better.
Gallon is an excellent route runner that will fit in nicely with the Patriots. Good pick by them especially considering Edelmen is hurt 6 times a year.
Brady is going to make Gallon a solid NFL player, no question.
He'll get a shot to contribute in the return game as well.
I'm really looking forward to see this develop, remember, the Pats now run that no-huddle offense...Gallon obviously has experience in Rich Rod's version of that.
Really excited for Gallon.
They're going to the podium.
Why did they have to show that bar in LA?
C'mon, that was fucked up ESPN.
Yea they showed it earlier, too. I don't really get why they'd do that. Maybe actually show Michael Sam and his draft party.
And I love women more than Hugh fucking Heff.
But just because he's gay you have to show a gay sports bar with people with feathers on their heads and shit?
Why can't you just show a sports bar in St. Louis? Show the crowd? Show people at Mizzou? Hell show Times Square for all I care.
What a joke. Fuck ESPN.
Why do we have to treat him differently from literally EVERY other player in the draft? That is discrimination in itself. Every other player gets their home, their party, their hometown sports bar shown. But Sam gets the gay bar in LA!? LA!? Come on, that's beyond fucked up.
Good for Sam and the Rams. He may not stick (I'm thinking he'd have been a 5th/6th rounder had he not come out, just because of the SEC DPOY factor), but this is a low risk/high reward move.
Also, and maybe this is just my Facebook feed, but a bunch of MSU fans seemed surprised that this highly-accomplished class of players had one guy drafted so far. I'm not saying this is a recruiting tool, but downtrodden, in-the-gutter UM had 3 guys drafted, including two who will likely be starters or valuable backups in the NFL for years, and a WR who could become Wes Welker 2.0 but with better hops.
so it wouldn't have been unprecedented.
Former Lions QB Rodney Peete finished 2nd in the Heisman and was scooped up by the Lions in the 6th round.
...that's what the draft is about. Dreams coming true.
Not a gay bar in LA.
Props to Sam...go make shit happen.
showed Sam on the phone. Their coverage is considerably better than ESPN.
I watched both and moving forward I'll only watch NFL Network on Draft Day. ESPN was awful this year. Shameful to be honest.
I could do without the cake cleaning off of each other's face though
But that's was TMZ Sports, I mean ESPN, does.
They wouldn't have done that with Blake Bortles and his hot girlfriend...but they'll show the gay guys making out for 3 minutes.
It was name mentions BEFORE he got drafted.
Stop playing the game, you will die if you try to continue. PLEASE STOP! Play another game or go watch HGTV and continue to play. ESPN will kill you, I promise.
Well deserved, Sam. Now go make the most of this opportunity. You've earned it. Make everyone who passed on you regret it.
"How about Louisville...3 guys picked."
"Did anyone from Texas get picked?"
"That's probably why the Louisville coach is the Texas coach."
What's up with this?
Michigan has had 3 players drafted so far, but MSU only has 1.
That doesn't make any sense. Coulda sworn State had at least 5 1st -3rd round locks this year.
Development doesn't always mean getting guys to the draft as it does getting the most out of the talent you have.
True, and thank you for pointing that out.
For a lot of HS recruits, one big thing in their mind is which is the best school to get me ready for the NFL (and has had success at getting players into the NFL).
So for all the success State has had, they are still struggling to put a high volume of players into the NFL (as compared to OSU, Wic, SEC, etc.)
Roids , bad attitudes, a style that doesn't translate to the pros. States defense is way too aggressive. The late hits, pass interference and straight up dirty garbage is something they get away with in the NCAA but coaches in the league don't want to deal with that shit.
This draft COMPLETELY justified Goddell's move to push the draft back 2 weeks.
SMH...NFL Draft coverage is going to be nonstop from now until forever. Manziel, McCarron and Sam...congrats, but you three are going to make me HATE the NFL Draft.
I'm sure the ratings for all 3 days were off the CHARTS.
Texas' 2010 class was ranked #3 and they had no draft picks for the first time since 1937. BUT CROOOTTTINNGGGG