Stringer Bell

May 27th, 2020 at 3:46 PM ^

Makes sense.  There are things more dangerous than COVID to the MSU student body.  Like Keith Appling and Adreian Payne, or a group of football players in a dorm hall.

JPC

May 27th, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^

The "end class at Thanksgiving" thing is going to be popular. It looks like my university is going to do that as well.

UMFanInFlorida

May 27th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^

My alma mater Ohio U did this when I attended.
 

We were on the quarters system then. The break from Thanksgiving til after new years was epic.

The only downside was finals week fell over the week of The Game and at least once I missed part of the game due to a Saturday final

 

901 P

May 27th, 2020 at 7:45 PM ^

Not official yet, but it looks like my institution will likely do the same. I also have always hated the way Thanksgiving falls in a semester. Students are not all that focused after break, and everyone goes home, returns, and then goes home again in like 2 weeks. I've always thought we as a country should just change Thanksgiving to October (like in Canada), but perhaps that's a little drastic simply to make the college school schedule better. 

NittanyFan

May 27th, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^

Honestly - that's the sort of thing that I see going LONG-term.  Even beyond this year.

It always felt a bit silly going back for 3 weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas (me at my alma mater, PSU).  Schools may need to see the fall semester start earlier (say, early-to-mid-August) to make this work, but late summer isn't a bad time to be on a college campus anyway.

NittanyFan

May 27th, 2020 at 6:15 PM ^

LOL.  Anecdote from last summer - I live in Denver now and last August I flew to New Orleans.  Now, I've lived in places like Detroit and Cincinnati, so I'm not un-used to August humidity, even though the Midwest isn't quite at Louisiana levels.

But living in Denver does make one forget about humidity at ANY level.

So when I stepped off the plane in New Orleans, I felt I was going to immediately suffocate!  It is intense down there. 

Teeba

May 27th, 2020 at 4:01 PM ^

I understand the thinking, but I wonder if it makes more sense to skip winter break. Once the students are on campus, they are contained in a mini-environment. I’m not sure sending them home to mommy and daddy (a more vulnerable population) for a month during flu season is the right thing to do.

JPC

May 27th, 2020 at 8:06 PM ^

It’s too far to tell, but they’re saying a fall that ends early, a spring that starts late, and then summer tbd. 

I feel like most of our summer students are international, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t allow them in. The university is going to end up spending a fortune on testing. 

TrueBlue2003

May 27th, 2020 at 7:51 PM ^

A lot of kids don't go home during spring break anyway.  They go party in Mexico or Jamaica or wherever.

My guess is they'll just stick around on campus on campus this year.  Remember, just because you don't have class doesn't mean you have to go home to mom and dad.  Can't imagine mom and dad will want those kids home for the 2021 spring break.  Still have to give the kids a short break after finals. And then it's up to them what to do.

But very smart just keeping them home between t-giving and christmas.

mgobaran

May 27th, 2020 at 4:04 PM ^

It's great to plan this, but idk how anyone can say this with any form of certainty right now. Lansing's region isn't opened up more than groups of 10 people, and that has only been in place for 5 days or so, when there's been a 2-4 week delay in effects based on the numbers we saw heading into lockdown. 

It's smarter to wait and see what happens when the higher population areas are opened up more and more, imo. 

4godkingandwol…

May 27th, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^

I think they need a plan now for a lot of reasons, including student housing, course prep, logistics in bringing students back. They need to draw this line in the sand, begin planning like mad to ensure a successful reintroduction of thousands of people into the campus, and then have a contingency plan B based on a set of criteria that assesses the risk of Plan A when more relevant and timely data is available later in the summer. 

blue in dc

May 27th, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^

I may be misreading, but they don’t actually appear to be ending the semester at Thanksgiving.    They will do remote learning for the three weeks they would have had on campus between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

From the article:


“An MSU reopening taskforce is still considering options and recommendations to keep students safe, but a number of precautions have already been adopted, including ending all in-person instruction by Thanksgiving and having students finish the last three weeks of the semester remotely, limiting large gatherings and wearing facemasks.‘“
 

LiveFromAA

May 27th, 2020 at 6:24 PM ^

MSU faculty member here, and you are correct.
 

We have been instructed to end in-person instruction at the Thanksgiving break and finishing the last 3 weeks of the semester and exams online. Students will have the choice of returning home and staying there or staying on campus. No choice to go home and then return. 
 

Also been told that this is “Plan A” and will depend heavily on what happens in the next 3 months. 

LiveFromAA

May 27th, 2020 at 7:56 PM ^

Haven’t heard anything specifically about testing from the high level admin other than there will be “testing and contact tracing efforts”... 

I don’t have a great read on campus as a whole, but some faculty in my department have already said they will teach online only unless a routine testing plan is in place.

Blue_by_U

May 27th, 2020 at 4:25 PM ^

Staying consistent it's early and this appears to be a plan. If Covid hangs on filling hospitals and killing thousands per day they won't resume in the fall. If the curve flattens and they feel it's possible the plan is set, read and react as needed. What will be a new dynamic is sending kids home early to learn remotely...some will pull that trigger early to avoid any spread. That could change a lot.

throw it deep

May 27th, 2020 at 4:41 PM ^

I expect we'll do the same. Maybe large lectures will be conducted online, but discussions and labs that require frequent communication between student and instructor will need to be conducted in person if you want them to have the same value.