MSU Basketball: Leadership better this year?

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This sounds an awful lot like 2014 Michigan Football in the preseason. Branden Dawson and Izzo threw Gary Harris, Adreian Payne, and Keith Appling under the bus at Media Day. And the last guy that should probably be talking about leadership is Branden Dawson after the whole "Dakich made me punch a table" incident last season.

"They were just so quiet," Dawson said about last season's veterans. "Not trying to throw those guys under the bus but this year, our communication is better. I talk a lot. Denzel is talking a lot and Travis is too. ... As far as this year, we're all on the same page."

His coach agrees. Izzo kicked off Big Ten Media Day by addressing leadership challenges that he doesn't expect to affect the team this year.

"I think [this is] a team with the same kind of passion we had last year, the same kind of camaraderie, but a little better leadership," he said. "Last year just wasn't ... it wasn't a strength of our team. It wasn't necessarily a weakness, but we had, we didn't have quite the leadership that I think we have with Travis Trice and Denzel Valentine."

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/11712199/michigan-state-spartans-determined-avoid-leadership-issues-season

 

worstever

October 16th, 2014 at 8:08 PM ^

Leadership will take you only so far...at some point, you're going to need the talent to compete....damn I wish I wasn't being hopeful that basketball season had started already.  BTW...when do BBall tix get mailed out?

feanor

October 16th, 2014 at 9:12 PM ^

His teams have been solid to great without a doubt, but players haven't developed into the NBA guys that high 4 stars and 5 stars should be. Since 2006, where he did have 3 NBA picks, he has only had 4 draft picks. Goran Suton, who was cut before his rookie year, Draymond Green, Payne and Harris.

Also he is a crybaby, so I am being overly judgemental about this.

evenyoubrutus

October 16th, 2014 at 9:18 PM ^

The problem is, people put way too much stock into the idea that a coach can "turn a guy into an NBA player."  BBall players are either NBA caliber or they're not.  The impact that their college coach has on that is minimal.  This is true also in football but maybe not to the same extreme.  

snarling wolverine

October 16th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^

I forget where I heard this, but someone said  the "punched a table" thing was a cover story and that Dawson actually took a swing at one of his coaches (and apparently missed and broke his hand on the wall).

 

Bando Calrissian

October 16th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^

If you really followed closely the last couple of seasons, there were a lot of problems behind the scenes in East Lansing. This isn't surprising in the least on that front, but it's really surprising Izzo couldn't rein it in.

Franz Schubert

October 16th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^

What are they hoping to accomplish by saying this? Those guys were great players, far superior to anyone on the roster this year.

MH20

October 16th, 2014 at 8:30 PM ^

Remind me again why someone would want to play for him?  I'm not talking about the Izzo from 10-15 years ago, but the petulant, woe-is-me, nothing-is-my-fault Izzo from the past 3-4 seasons.

No thanks.

Livonia Wolverine

October 16th, 2014 at 8:26 PM ^

Don't they mean their excuses are better this year? I am so sick of that overrated midget crying. We were without our All American center and still won the conference by 3 games. Izzo is pussy and his players are weird.

BlueLikeJazz

October 16th, 2014 at 8:37 PM ^

and way worse than what we saw from Michigan football in August.

I don't mean MSU basketball is going to be way worse, but IIRC no one on UM's football team was naming names and calling guys out specifically like this.  

Also, like others have said, it's a bit rich for them to be calling out guys with far more talent and accomplishments.

In summary, I'm glad for Travis Trice to be a leader on that team.

BlueinLansing

October 16th, 2014 at 9:39 PM ^

was Izzo's excuse for just simply not doing a good job coaching that team.  On the other hand Keith Appling was a terrible leader who made just awful decisions at the wrong times over the last couple years.

 

Lets not forget two of those high profile "leaders" shouldn't have even made it to their Senior years, let alone avoided jail time.

goblue16

October 16th, 2014 at 9:52 PM ^

That's not right for Izzo to say but the fact is last years teams had little cohesiveness. Izzo like blamin injuries but when his team had the most injuries they were still winning games. It wasn't until his players were getting healthier did they start losing games

sasmjjsly

October 16th, 2014 at 9:54 PM ^

I wonder what lil tommy's excuse will be a in March when this bunch gets bounced the first weekend of the tourney? izzo will be exposed as the average coach that he is.

Tater

October 17th, 2014 at 1:03 AM ^

We all know what was in the police report for the Wonders Hall Assault.  Neither player should ever play another minute for that school.  Instead, both played four years in EL and were counted upon by Tom Izzo for "leadership" last season.  When the coach shows that kind of "leadership: by example, how are players supposed to "lead?"

We are seeing players at other schools get suspended when there is no "smoking gun" such as that police report.  We even saw Michigan change its rules so that Brendan Gibbons, who apparently had nothing but he said, she said "evidence" against him but was displaying a pattern of inappropriate behavior that could not be ignored nor tolerated, could be jettisoned without "violating his rights" and risking legal recourse.  

Meanwhile, "leadership as usual" goes on in EL. Tom Izzo will still field good teams.  He may even keep getting them to the second week of the NCAA Tournament.  But I don't see him having another run like he did before last year's seniors arrived in EL.  

I don't think Izzo is as good a leader as he once was.  It is hurting him that he can't just walk into the home of a Michigan recruit, say "scandal" and leave with a commitment anymore.  To compensate, Izzo is cutting corners in the integrity department.  Sparty will always be tough, but I don't see them being truly elite anymore.