Mike Zordich moving on?

Submitted by WoodleyIsBeast on January 13th, 2021 at 8:17 AM

Per Sam Webb, it appears that Mike Zordich will be elsewhere going forward.

An excellent replacement could do wonders for the recruitment of Domani Jackson and Will Johnson, and at least it won't seem so open-ended with uncertainty anymore.

Thoughts on who his replacement will be? Does Mike Macdonald bring someone from Baltimore? Do we hit a home run and Charles Woodson decides to get involved(doubtful)?

Perkis-Size Me

January 13th, 2021 at 11:22 AM ^

It seems like it’s been made official. I’m guessing McDonald has just asked that it not be made official until the Baltimore’s season is over. Which is a perfectly reasonable request. I doubt either he or John Harbaugh want any distractions right now while getting ready for the Bills. 

Mblueforlife

January 13th, 2021 at 8:27 AM ^

Sad to see Zordich go. He has been loyal throughout his 6 years at Michigan and has been a hell of a teacher. I hope he does well wherever he goes.

As far as a new DB/S coach, it'll be interesting to see who Macdonald targets. Having a DB coach who recruits well is one thing, but they need to be able to be a great teacher as well. Its offense heaving in CFB and WR are becoming a more talented group each year. Hopefully we never have to face a D. Smith, because I'm not sure many (if any) could keep that kid in check.

Gulogulo37

January 13th, 2021 at 8:41 AM ^

"Its offense heaving in CFB and WR are becoming a more talented group each year."

Yes, and that's why we need talent. There's only Zordich can do with guys like Gray and Watson. We've seen how that goes. We need guys who can match that speed first and foremost. People act like Zordich is the only coach in the country who knows how to coach CBs. I don't think it's too much to ask for a good coach who recruits at a place like Michigan.

Of course Zordich, the guy who doesn't recruit is going to leave precisely when there are 2 big-time recruits he has an in with. Then again, if they get a good recruiter, maybe that balances out regarding those prospects.

Mblueforlife

January 13th, 2021 at 8:54 AM ^

Agreed.

I don't think Zordich was the only guy who could successfully coach/teach DBs, but he made it so our DBs were technically sound. DBs give up plays, thats just how the game goes, but making sure they are in a position to succeed come from coaching. Lewis, Long, L. Hill, and Thomas all had talent, but they needed help. Guys like Jeremy Clark, Watson, C. Stribling, etc. weren't as talented, but Zordich was able to coach them up to make them hang.

I hope whoever we hire is able to do the same as Zordich, but at the end of the day you need talent at that position to hang with these talented receivers. That comes from recruiting.

Vote_Crisler_1937

January 13th, 2021 at 10:30 AM ^

I realize this may sound like crazy talk on this board but I’m not so sure Zordich was a good coach or teacher. Isn’t it possible that he got lucky with really talented players who self-taught enough to shore up weaknesses?
 

Maybe I’m missing it but I don’t see overwhelming evidence that the DB room is achieving beyond expectation due to Zordich coaching them up. I see some guys improved, some guys look terribly lost in their 3rd year, and some guys looked lost until they got on the field and now look average with a few flashes of great.  Zordich could be a good teacher or he could be lucky in a small sample size. I’m optimistic that the coaching staff can do better in their next hire. 

1VaBlue1

January 13th, 2021 at 8:27 AM ^

Charles Woodson has never coached anything in his life, and has no apparent desire to do so now.  Dragging him into being an assistant coach would not be a 'home run.  I don't know anything about available DB coaches, but I do know that...

That aside, Zordich is one of the few coaches that doesn't recruit very well that I would be ecstatic about keeping around.  The guy knows how to get CB's to play very good football.  Even Vincent Gray was looking worlds better later in the season than he did against MSU!  I'm also pretty sure (but not positive) that Jackson and Johnson were looking forward to working for him.

Toby Flenderson

January 13th, 2021 at 8:36 AM ^

Yeah, I think the problem is that even if he can develop these players, there is going to be a ceiling. I think Vincent Gray showed modest improvement over 2020, and will be a better player in 2021. However, his limited athleticism means he will have a ceiling. I am fine with Vincent Gray as a 3rd Corner, not as a starter.

In today's college football landscape, you need to recruit very good/elite talent at corner to be a consistent 10-11 win football team. You don't need 5 star recruits at corner, but guys who are ranked in the top 300, who can run 4.4/4.5 40s is essential. Jourdan Lewis, Lavert Hill, David Long, and Ambry Thomas had those skillsets, and were high 4* prospects. 

1VaBlue1

January 13th, 2021 at 8:50 AM ^

I agree with what you're saying, but all I meant was that Zordich can coach!  It would be a lot nicer if he were still coaching the like of Lewis and Long, etc...  I would really like to see him working with Johnson and Jackson, though.  However, I think the style of the defense is going to change away from all press man all the time (which also appeals to the J&J 'croots), and we have no idea how well he coaches any other coverages.

1VaBlue1

January 13th, 2021 at 8:53 AM ^

Nobody said it wasn't...

Are you saying that Gray and Green didn't improve after that game, though?  Because that argument is false.  Why were they that bad in that game, though?  Nobody knows - the entire fucking team was that bad.  Unlike the rest of the team, though, those two improved through the season.

Gulogulo37

January 13th, 2021 at 11:10 AM ^

"Nobody said it wasn't"

Funny how few people mention it though when talking about his coaching abilities.

"Are you saying that Gray and Green didn't improve after that game, though?"

Obviously that's not what I'm saying. So they improved from historically atrocious to mediocre? Cool.

azee2890

January 13th, 2021 at 8:56 AM ^

Great recruiter, meh schematic coach. 

Which seems to compliment Macdonald who has never recruited before but seems to be an excellent teacher/schematic coach. 

Whoever they hire has to be a top notch recruiter to seal the deal on Jackson and Johnson. Landing both of those guys would be a catalyst to change the direction of this football team. 

tbeindit

January 13th, 2021 at 10:26 AM ^

Really don't understand this consensus that's formed that whoever Michigan hires needs to be a "top notch recruiter" or it will fail.

Harbaugh is almost certainly getting fired (or forced into a resignation) after 2021 if the team struggles. Even if the next DC is the greatest recruiter known to man, it won't matter if Harbaugh is gone after next year.