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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:38 PM | I thought that at first, but (Score:1)
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I thought that at first, but rethinking it in context it a not that bad. considering henrique has yet to pass out of the block all season, the black hole reference is fitting.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:35 PM | HAMAWAY (Score:1 Normal)
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Timmy is going off.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:36 PM | Timmmayyyy (Score:1)
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our best player so far this year

 

But what's up with Trey, he's not tearing it up like I'd like to see

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:37 PM | I'm really starting to enjoy Dakich (Score:2 Normal)
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calling these games. 

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:41 PM | I agree. I know to go ahead (Score:3 Normal)
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I agree. I know to go ahead and mute the game right away.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:39 PM | How large is Doris's Adam's (Score:0 Overrated)
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How large is Doris's Adam's apple?

Who is Jon Falk?
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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:41 PM | I love how they credit KSU's rebounding (Score:2)
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When I think we scored on ourselves.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:41 PM | Stream (Score:1)
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anyone? Stuck at work and no ESPN 3 access.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 PM | Try front row sports (Score:1)
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Always a winner

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:46 PM | (No subject) (Score:3 Normal)
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Sent From My Commodore 64

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:42 PM | I hate to keep ragging on (Score:0 Overrated)
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I hate to keep ragging on this point; but Vogrich is a complete liability on both ends of the court.  

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 PM | Exactly what are you talking (Score:2)
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Exactly what are you talking about?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:46 PM | He's completely out-matched (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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He's completely out-matched physically.  I've seen guys just reach over his head to grab rebounds at lease ten times in the last two games.  It would be one thing if he was hitting a shot every now and again, but he's 36 percent from the floor.  Why would you have him in there versus Stauskas or anyone else for that matter?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:54 PM | The only times guys have (Score:3 Normal)
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The only times guys have "reached over his head" is when he has rotated to pick up someone's man defensively, which he has done very well. His on-the-ball defending has been solid, he hasn't given up anything.

Vogrich's freshmen year I really disliked him, but ever since the 2011 NCAA Tennessee game I've come to see some of his strengths. He has really grown defensively, specifically as a team defender.

Plus, he can hit any three that Stauskas can.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:11 PM | I gotta disagree.  The plays (Score:1)
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I gotta disagree.  The plays I'm referring to he was blocking guys out and they just straight-up jumped over him.  

And he's pretty obviously not the shooter Nik is.  36% from the floor and awful from 3 this year.  I will give you that he's probably a better position defender than Nik at this point.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 PM | That's the whole point. (Score:2)
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If Nik is in the starting line up, where is he getting shots? Is he getting Hardaway's? Burke's? GRIII's? Off te bench he provides scoring in the second unit. Starting he's just crowding better players.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 8:13 PM | Very good point.  But at what (Score:1)
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Very good point.  But at what point do you just want your best five guys on the floor?  

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November 24th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | At the end of games. (Score:1)
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Where I think you'll find Nik in a whole lot more. It's not who starts but who finishes.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:45 PM | Is this your favorite album ever? (Score:2)
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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:48 PM | Vogrich is not was Stauskus (Score:1)
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Vogrich is not was Stauskus is on the O side, but Stauskus is not a step up over Vogrich on D. That is why Vogrich is playing. Stauskus needs more experience, and with that will come a decreased role for Vogrich

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 PM | Well said.  I'm sure he is (Score:1)
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Well said.  I'm sure he is better positionally on D than Nik is in practice. 

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:43 PM | Vogrich being Gritty (Score:2)
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Vogrich being Gritty McGritstein.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:43 PM | We should be killing this (Score:2 Normal)
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We should be killing this team.  Can't let them hang around.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:43 PM | Where can I get a "we on" t (Score:1)
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Where can I get a "we on" t shirt.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:49 PM | footlocker    http://www.foot (Score:1)
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footlocker 

 

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:55 PM | Save your money (Score:2 Normal)
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My guess is you're only buying it to burn it, right?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:43 PM | I cant help but think we may have... (Score:2 Normal)
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Played too many kids in this first half

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 PM | Burke scoreless?  Wow. (Score:1)
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Burke scoreless?  Wow.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:59 PM | Per some folks on Twitter, (Score:2)
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Per some folks on Twitter, Burke isn't on the stats sheet as even taking a shot in the first half.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:45 PM | Feels like we should bust this open (Score:0 Overrated)
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We're underachieving but winning. If we can start executing in the second half, I like where we're headed. If not, this one goes to the buzzer.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:45 PM | Is there a reason (Score:1)
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why Trey is sitting firmly on the bench? Is this a teaching moment?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:48 PM | 2 fouls (Score:1)
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You get 2 in the first half and you sit.  Coaches M.O.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:48 PM | 2 fouls. (Score:2)
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2 fouls.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:46 PM | Seems odd that Beilein has (Score:0 Overrated)
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Seems odd that Beilein has experimented with line-ups so much in a champsionship game. Makes me think he is trying to prove a point.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:49 PM | A championship in name (Score:0 Overrated)
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A championship in name only...

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:50 PM | Think it had more to do with (Score:2 Normal)
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Think it had more to do with 2 players have 2 fouls

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:50 PM | I don't know if we can 'kill' (Score:2)
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I don't know if we can 'kill' this team, but I think if we keep up the hard work we will have a great chance of winning. Once Trey Burke settles down and teh team begins to make some 3-pt shoots (which is so far lacking today), we will win.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:50 PM | Will we see a game this season (Score:1)
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Where we actually use a big lineup?

I do it for my love of the Streets

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:51 PM | Doris Burke has got to be one (Score:1 Redundant)
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Doris Burke has got to be one of the worst announcers I've ever heard. Some of the things and questions she asks makes her seem absolutely clueless...

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:57 PM | I disagree.  I think she's (Score:4 Informative)
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I disagree.  I think she's doing fine.  I think it's funny that everyone's ragging on her.  Very telling?

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 PM | Agreed (Score:3 Normal)
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Most of the complaints I've seen summarized: "She's a woman!"

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:05 PM | Negged for disagreeing with (Score:4 Normal)
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Negged for disagreeing with his non-substantiated opinion!  How dare you think the female announcer is doing an OK job!

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:49 PM | Agreed, I think she's doing (Score:2 Normal)
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Agreed, I think she's doing well and she seems to be putting in timely commentary. I have heard MUCH worse.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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November 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 PM | The questions she was asking (Score:-1 Trolling)
Bb011
Joined: 09/02/2010
MGoPoints: 1745

The questions she was asking were some of the worst questions I've heard from an announcer. It was painful.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 PM | She's not that bad, the guy (Score:2 Normal)
TruBluMich
Joined: 08/03/2011
MGoPoints: 259

She's not that bad, the guy would have to shut up for more than 3 seconds for her to start annoying me

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 PM | Really need to work on (Score:2)
BlockM
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MGoPoints: 25314

Really need to work on consistency. When we're on, we're dang near unstoppable. When we're running around without a plan, we get ourselves in trouble and give up easy baskets. So much potential on this team, hope we get to see it realized.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 6:58 PM | Like last game I disagree (Score:2 Normal)
TheGeneral
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Like last game I disagree with almost every comment. I'll take a coaches perspective like Dakich over useless rah rah like Vitale any day. The rumor that Vogrich is defending is greatly exaggerated. Coach is making a point, earn your spot with defense Stauskas. It has nothing to do with who is defending better now it is to get Stauskas ready down the road. And those thinking we were going to blow out a team that is gritty and a nightmare on the boards, perhaps you should look to the Pitt game. This game was destined to be tough. We may get hot and pull away but K-state won't go away on their own.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:00 PM | Having Stauskas come in off (Score:3 Normal)
BlockM
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Having Stauskas come in off the bench is more important than having him in the starting lineup. I like the fact that we can put a highly skilled guy in around the same time an opposing team might be taking one off the court.

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 PM | I'm glad you know exactly (Score:3 Normal)
MGoBender
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The rumor that Vogrich is defending is greatly exaggerated. Coach is making a point, earn your spot with defense Stauskas. It has nothing to do with who is defending better now it is to get Stauskas ready down the road.

I'm glad you know exactly what the coaching staff is thinking.

Can you let us know what Beilein's 1-3-1 strategy is as well?  /s

It definitely has to do with who is defending better right now. If not, why was Stauskas subbed out for defensive possessions and in for offensive possessions at the end of the last game?

 

CoE Class of 2007

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November 23rd, 2012 at 7:03 PM | Well I want his input, what I (Score:2 Normal)
TruBluMich
Joined: 08/03/2011
MGoPoints: 259

Well I want his input, what I don't want is a life story and for him to get to the point. I'm also sure everyone would rather not have Dick Vitale

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