ak47

November 12th, 2015 at 11:36 AM ^

With the class already tight is this a guy we really want?  I'm all for a good troll but I'm thinking this means bad things about kareem walkers chances of landing in the class.

Stay.Classy.An…

November 12th, 2015 at 11:40 AM ^

Harbaugh has got this under control. There is writing on the wall for some current guys who are headed to 5th years. Harbaugh wouldn't just offer a kid to troll another university.....or would he....? But in all seriousness, I think the staff sees something here, plus we have a few verbal commits that are possible flips to other schools, which frees up more room.

Gentleman Squirrels

November 12th, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^

Maybe not. With how our other running back recruits have positional flexibility with Davis (fullback), Evans (slot), Enis (Safety), it's probably good to have a recruit thats solely going to the running back position and if he has speed then even better - we really need speed with our running backs. That being said, I was a little hesitant because we are in on a lot of great players and I would hate to miss out on them just because we ran out of room. At this point DT is a bigger need than a running back for this class.

LJ

November 12th, 2015 at 11:41 AM ^

I have a hard time understanding how the recruiting sites can have guys with outrageous offer lists ranked so low.  This guy has offers from Bama, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, ND, and now Michigan, among many others in the next tier of powers.  Yet he's the #475 player in the country, according to the composite rankings.  

I get that the paysites have their independant opinions and I like that, but it's always baffling when there's such a huge disconnect between what the coaches think and what the paysites think.

gwkrlghl

November 12th, 2015 at 12:36 PM ^

When I see an offer list like that, I almost immediately write off what the recruiting sites think. Maybe the recruiting gurus think he's average, but the top coaching staffs in the country all want him. Seems like someone we sure as hell would want

Evil Empire

November 12th, 2015 at 11:45 AM ^

Lots of changing direction, weaving his way through the defense, then turning on the jets for long scores.  But when he gets good blocking up front, he's at high speed earlier and reaches the endzone 10 yards ahead of pursuers.  Usual caveats about not knowing the level of competition, yak yak yak. 

Seems similar to Chris Evans and Kiante Enis.  How many ~6'0" 185 running back/athletes do we have room for in this class?

Space Coyote

November 12th, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^

Obviously, the first thing that stands out about Adams is his quickness. His feet are extremely quick, and his lateral agility is very good. He starts and stops and cuts without a lot of wasted motion and very little loss of speed, yet, he does have the ability to use change of speed to his benefit. His recruiting ranking belies his offer list, and frankly, his film.

I'll start off with what I see as the two big questions: What position is he really (RB, slot, CB)? Can he transition his game to the next level?

Adams is a space player in my opinion, his game is a bit more difficult to translate at the RB position. You see a lot of people often times see highlight tapes like these can clamor for these guys to play RB, because as high school film they are impressive. But it is also more difficult to adjust to the college game and speed as this type of runner. Certainly, it can be done, and there are numerous examples, I'm only saying it's more difficult at RB and, in my impression, would be easier at one of the other two positions listed above.

What is obvious though is that Adams has great quickness and lateral agility, good speed, and good vision. Get a guy like that in space and you're scaring a lot of defenses, particularly the LBs forced to cover him at times. As a RB, he still runs a bit high. I'm not sure he's quite as tall as listed (he doesn't look it on film, but that's difficult to gauge), but being shorter may actually help him at the RB position because it allows him to remain a bit lower with his pads and to hide behind OL a bit more to utilize his quickness to his advantage. The biggest worry I have with him at RB is his preference to stop and be overly patient even beyond the hole. This works in high school, where LBs are slower getting to the point of attack and where DL can get pushed around and out of gaps; in the college game sometimes it works, but more often than not it turns what should be 5+ yard gains into 2 yard gains. That's why he works better in space, IMO, because the wash isn't there and allows him to play as he naturally does, rather than having to go through more of a transition period to adjust how he approaches the RB position a little bit.

I guess, overall, what I see is a guy that should be able to find a home on the football field as long as he's willing to maybe move around after getting a shot at RB. He could very well work out at RB, but it'll be harder for him, and a move to another position may help him see the field. His ability with the ball in space is obvious, so I won't get into his ability to play the slot (outside that he also looks pretty nature as a catcher). His quickness and change of direction would really benefit him as a CB. He looks to me like a guy who should be able to jam and flip and stick with receivers from the standpoint that he changes direction well and accelerates really well. He would be able to play multiple coverage types, and if MSU is going to more MOD coverage and thinking of playing off a little more often to the field in these instances, Adams is a guy that could fit in that role really well. He looks to have the strength and bulk to jam after getting in the weight room a bit more at the college level, the question there would be the length. He wouldn't be the prototypical MSU CB, and having a little less length would make it a little more difficult for him to get his hands into the receiver's body.

My guess for the ranking is that, for whatever reason, the sites see him strictly as a RB rather than an ATH, which I think is a truer description of his abilities. He doesn't really show great strength as a runner in that he runs high and his legs don't churn with power (they keep moving, but they don't generate power with the movement), and if the recruiting sites only see him as a RB, then I think they are unfairly dinging him on that aspect of his game. And that comes back to how he really translates to the position in college. But even then, at worst I'd view him as a high variance RB (little lower floor, maybe not an every down RB, but still a high ceiling), with his upside making him, in my mind, deserving of a bit higher in the ranking. But that's only if you see him strictly as a RB, if you allow yourself to project him to other positions as well, then his floor gets much higher, but he continues to have the upside that he demonstrates on film; and that's why his film, in my eye, belies his ranking.

I had him rated as I believe the 5th best player in MSU's class; so he's a good player. I just see him more likely as a slot or a DB than as a RB.

Michology 101

November 12th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^

That's what I'm kinda thinking also. I'm mean, from all reports, we're leading to get Walker. We also have many top recruits still considering us and we have limited space. We shouldn't accept him too quickly, especially if it means possibly taking a spot away from a 5 star kid who's just waiting to decide around signing day.

Jimmyisgod

November 12th, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^

Would be a good get, kid has offers from Bama, ND, Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida, etc.  His film is sick, not elite top end speed, but elite accelration, elite cutting ability and vision.