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Michigan Monday: Game Analysis from the Enemy in Columbus

The Ozone, one of the Ohio blogs covering the Buckeyes, has up their weekly column analyzing the Michigan game.

LINK:  http://theozone.net/football/2012/MichiganMonday/MM12_09_03.html.

You can read it yourself . . . Gerdeman really isn't too snarky. The upshot of his analysis is that you can't really tell a lot from the Alabama game about how Michigan will do this year.

A few bullets

  • Although he'd never admit it publicly, Hoke knew this game was close to a lost cause, with the offensive game plan, and with Michigan's player personnel, including Denard.
  • Fitz might have helped, but ultimately wouldn't have made a difference in the final outcome.
  • More running plays for Denard wouldn't have helped, and might have gotten him killed.
  • Neither Rawls nor Smith impressed:  Toussaint is the best back.
  • (not said, but an observation:  we need Green, and need to recruit another feature back or two for the 2014 class.)
  • Gardner may have potential, but he needs to improve a lot:  1 out of 8 is terrible.
  • Even given the deficiencies on the DL, the LB play leaves something to be desired.
  • Special teams was the main bright spot, between Hagerup's punts, Wile's kickoffs, and Norfleet's kickoff returns.

If you are a football junkie, Gerdeman's weekly "Michigan Monday" column can give you a bit of a fix from a somewhat neutral outside perspective while you're waiting for Brian's UFR. While the analysis is not perfect, it is analysis, unlike many of pieces found in the MSM.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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September 4th, 2012 at 12:06 PM | Serious question... (Score:-1 Overrated)
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How much time do you spend per day on OSU blog sites?

 

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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September 4th, 2012 at 10:25 PM | Usually check once or twice a week (Score:5 Normal)
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During the season, I'll check the Ozone on Monday or Tuesday to see what Gerdeman says in MIchigan Monday.

Depending on what is going on, I'll also check Eleven Warriors out every now and then.

But, in answer to your question, I don't go to OSU blog sites on a daily basis. And I never go to any Michigan State blogs, or any for ND. Other than Michigan, I want to know what Ohio is doing. Partly this is because they have been our most legitimate rival, and partly because my wife is from Cleveland and I have a bunch of in-laws who either went to Ohio or follow them. One nephew was the starting RB for St. Ignatius in one of their championship years, and another played QB for Ohio University until a leg injury sidelined him and he transferred to Ohio State.

I mostly follow mgoblog, but will also check articles at the News, the Freep, as well as Tremendous and Touch the Banner. And to answer the question behind your question, I'm cutting back on time at blogs. And I posbanged you for the reminder not to waste time:  thank you!

EDIT:  If I go to an Ohio blog, it is to read analysis from Gerdeman and other counterparts to Brian. I rarely will read comments or posts. I really don't care that much for what most of their fan base says.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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September 4th, 2012 at 12:51 PM | Michigan Monday is always a (Score:5 Normal)
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Michigan Monday is always a good read.  The OP should not be bashed for posting it.

 

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September 4th, 2012 at 5:19 PM | Did I down vote the OP? (Score:2 Normal)
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My question was fair, regardless of whether or not you think it was a loaded question.  Kass, more than any other user it seems, shares quite a bit of content here that has been generated on OSU blog sites.

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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September 4th, 2012 at 12:20 PM | Article is good (Score:2 Normal)
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Seems like the writer spends a fair amount of time reading MGoBlog as well.

The comments however are AWESOME!  Did you know that Kenny Guiton would be the starting QB for Michigan if he hadn't chosen OSU?  (excuse me..starting QB for "meatchicken")

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September 4th, 2012 at 12:22 PM | If you criticize... (Score:5 Normal)
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...the OP for posting this, you're not too MGoSavvy. The Ozone's Michigan Monday is an oft linked page by MGoLeader.

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September 4th, 2012 at 12:23 PM | Ironic that Denard may have gotten hurt (Score:-1 Overrated)
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had we run him more. Instead he got hurt on a pass play trying to tackle the DB who intercepted him.

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September 4th, 2012 at 12:28 PM | And he got hurt on a running (Score:4 Normal)
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And he got hurt on a running play (4th and 3), too.

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September 4th, 2012 at 4:45 PM | Re-injured same shoulder (Score:1 Normal)
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that he hurt on the tackle.

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September 4th, 2012 at 4:53 PM | It looked like he strained (Score:3 Normal)
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It looked like he strained his back on the play.

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September 5th, 2012 at 8:14 AM | Agree on the back stinger (Score:1)
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Im simply going off of what was reported about the two plays about his shoulder. We shall see how he looks this Saturday.

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September 4th, 2012 at 12:37 PM | That was a nice summary that (Score:2)
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That was a nice summary that hit on alot of areas and I thought it was pretty fair.  I can see myself checking those out during the year.

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September 4th, 2012 at 12:47 PM | Thanks Mr. Kass.  I wouldn't (Score:2 Normal)
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Thanks Mr. Kass.  I wouldn't take the time to read this column were it not for you posting.  I appreciate it.

 

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September 4th, 2012 at 1:15 PM | I'm sure this has been discussed a lot here, but... (Score:3 Normal)
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I agree re: Denard.  I think they were trying to spare him a beating, and I also think that they'd never admit that.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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September 4th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | Why is Denard your QB? (Score:0)
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Why is Denard your QB?  Because he is a senior.  He is your offensive leader.  In a blackout his smile can light the way.

Why wasn't he run more?  Because your year is based on Denard being the QB out of the shotgun doing spread work.  Once Denard is gone, you will revert back to your PlayActionPassing game of yore.  Until then he is the guy.  With 11 games to go and facing the likes of ND, MSU, Nebraska & tOSU, you don't need him killed in a game not many gave you a chance to come out of.

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September 4th, 2012 at 3:11 PM | It might be, but thats what (Score:0)
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It might be, but thats what happened.

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September 4th, 2012 at 2:20 PM | I think the point of the (Score:2 Normal)
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I think the point of the analysis was acknowledging that Hoke believed this game was not going to be a W. Also, a loss here does not affect our chances at a B1G title, which has always been his stated goal. But, a loss and an injured Denard would affect our chances at a B1G title.

Whether this was Hoke's logic or not can be debated, but nobody can deny it is a valid proposition.

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September 4th, 2012 at 3:07 PM | If this is true - that Hoke (Score:1)
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If this is true - that Hoke and the staff went in planning on protecting Denard from injury first and foremost - then one has to seriously question why this game was scheduled in the first place.  Because as far as I can tell, absolutely no good came of it.  The best that could have happened is that the program made some good money off it but we all know Brandon cried poor when the uproar about the MMB not making the trip exploded.  So what good came of it??

 

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September 4th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | The game was scheduled to (Score:0)
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The game was scheduled to showcase RRs full out Spread N Shred in year 5.  Or what should have been.

 

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September 4th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | The game was originally (Score:4 Normal)
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The game was originally scheduled with the idea that it would take place in Rodriguez's fifth season.  I suppose we could have cancelled it after we changed coaches, but I don't think Hoke would have stood for that.  I don't think that would have sent a good message to the team.

This game was a measuring stick.  We got an idea of where we stack up against probably the best program in the country.  The outcome was not very positive, but that doesn't mean it can't serve a purpose going forward.  It will give the guys an incentive, not just this year but beyond.  If they ever get complacent, the coaches will show them this game tape.  

 

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September 5th, 2012 at 8:20 AM | This game was scheduled (Score:1)
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scheduled by DB and was nothing more than him waving his dick around to market Michigan. I'm reserving judgement, but there is a large group of long-time boosters and alums that are beginning to tire of his running of the AD. Jerseys aside, because I like those, and I like big time matchups, he is starting to overstep his bounds a bit. The facts are out, a home and home would have been more profitable and better exposure for the program. DB just wanted to hobnob with Jerry Jones and put Michigan in a spotlight. Too bad it was a bit too soon to avoid embarrassment.

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September 4th, 2012 at 2:15 PM | good read (Score:4 Normal)
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That guy has been writing those columns for a long time and he is pretty consistently fair-minded and perceptive. I agree with him that we won't know much about this team until the ND game. Alabama is too good, UMass too weak, and Air Force too unorthodox.

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September 4th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | I don't usually read stuff (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't usually read stuff from other schools but that seemed pretty fair-minded and insightful. 

 

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September 4th, 2012 at 7:03 PM | He's usually pretty fair but (Score:5 Normal)
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He's usually pretty fair but he got unhinged a bit towards the end of last season because he no longer had OSU's clear superiority as a security blanket.  This is the same guy who said that if you pooled 2011's starters for both squads, you'd only select 5 or so from Michigan total out of your best 22.  Followed that up with the infamous 'Urban Meyer dominating Hoke on the Recruiting Trail' article before the greatest mid-February weekend in the history of mid-February weekends.

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