Michigan Leads All Schools With Most Talent In 2017 NFL Draft
This story was just published by NFL.com writer Chad Reuter. Here is where he thinks they will get drafted:
Early rounds: EDGE Taco Charlton, CB Jourdan Lewis, S Jabrill Peppers, DE Chris Wormley
Middle rounds: TE Jake Butt (injury), WR Amara Darboh, OT Erik Magnuson, RB De'Veon Smith
Late rounds: OG Ben Braden, WR Jehu Chesson, LB Ben Gedeon, DT Ryan Glasgow, S Delano Hill, OG Kyle Kalis, CB Channing Stribling, S Dymonte Thomas
Alabama, LSU, Clemson and Ohio State rounded out the Top 5.
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January 18th, 2017 at 6:37 PM ^
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January 18th, 2017 at 7:50 PM ^
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and would have lost to NC State if not for a short missed FG....They went on to win the National Title if I recall correctly.
OSU lost to PSU in a flukiest of fluke game.
We got screwed against OSU.
Shit happens, upsets happen. That's why it takes having a great team, great staff and luck to win a national title.
Luck this year...we had none...sucks, that's life. 3 losses by 5 points....sucks.
The Bama dynasty, despite having the most talent year in and year out, has lost to lesser teams like Auburn (the absurd kick 6 return), Ole Miss (twice), Texas AM when Manziel went nuts, and others.
Point is to have the best team possible and best coached players every year, and then hope you get the breaks.
January 18th, 2017 at 6:57 PM ^
and merks to kick the shit out of cash under the table loving refs after games.
January 18th, 2017 at 6:58 PM ^
We had a special teams unit that had a bunch of blocks.
Block the kick, make the tackle on the kickoff, don't fumble the ball on the kickoff, do something.
Its become a disturbing theme in the last two years of choking away wins.
I don't even count the 2015 Minnesota and Indiana debacles as clutch wins because those were embarassing Akron level performances.
Its not always bad luck. The only one I could say was bad luck was the joke of officiating performance against 2016 Ohio State.
2015 msu - complete chokejob by probably a top 3 moronic play in program history. I see teams able to run out the clock week after week without doing something that stupid. Tell the fucking Aussie kicker you can't roll out like a fucking moron and catch the fucking ball.
2015 ohio state - unpreapred and unmotivated team, a disgraceful performance. Harbaugh signed off on that defensive gameplan - its his team, its not the Hoke CEO bullshit.
2016 iowa- complete chokejob. Unmotivated, undisciplined, unprepared.
2016 florida state - team spent days laughing at Florida State for riding jet skis and jerking off on the beach to bikinis. Then our team comes out completely uninterested, then decides to actually play late in the game and then has everyone's walk on hero miss a tackle a pee wee football player could make.
Its not always about getting breaks. We got screwed against 2016 Ohio State. The rest were complete chokejobs and avoidable with any semblance of proper preparation.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:13 PM ^
Whoa, talk about an overreaction. 2015 Minnesota and Indiana were Akron level embarrassing? Uh, no, those are legit power 5 teams, not some shitty MAC team
January 18th, 2017 at 7:25 PM ^
The fact that you are defending those pathetic performances just further shows how low people's expectations have become.
Goodness.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:31 PM ^
Perhaps you should take a chill pill. I think we blew an opportunity this year too, but comparing close games against Big Ten teams to a close game against a 5 win MAC team is just absurd.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:39 PM ^
A lot people like to root for and cherish Indiana football here (which is extremely stupid), but they are basically a MAC team.
I don't value those wins much.
Sorry, but its very frustrating to finish 4th place in the conference when we have the Number 1 defense in the country.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:40 PM ^
A 6 win Indiana team is basically a MAC team? Uh, no. They played a close game against OSU that year too, with their backup QB no less. They're called chaos team for a reason. I get it's frustrating, but an elite defense can only do so much when you have a mediocre offense unfortunately. Losing 3 games by a total of 5 points is a combination of bad luck and the players spending the first half of their careers being coached by a guy who didn't know how to win football games. There's only so much Harbaugh can do to fix Hoke's mess, the fact that we won 20 games in 2 seasons following a 5-7 season tells me he did a damn good job of that.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:59 PM ^
The choking away of wins is completely accurate in my prior post.
I think the baseline for the talent was more 7-8 wins pre-Harbaugh. 2014 was absolutely ridiculous in that we were clearly coached down to 5 wins.
There was a lot of progress, but I don't view it as being as big as some.
The offense wasn't that mediocre. It became mediocre after it went into a shell after we were rolling msu. The whole season changed after that Speight Int. We were steamrolling them and then basically shut things down and never really recovered.
Though, I am guessing that Harbaugh may have been secretly waiting to absolutely humilate them in 2017 on our field, which I fully expect.
I guess the fewer Hoke players the better. I don't really have a problem with guys graduating in 3 years and seeking transfers. We need this team to be all Harbaugh players as soon as possible so we don't have that Hoke loser mentality in any of our players.
January 18th, 2017 at 8:17 PM ^
Our offense was pretty mediocre. They lit up bad teams like Maryland and Rutgers, but against any quality defense they weren't very productive. 14 points against Wisconsin, 13 points against Iowa, 17 points against OSU. We didn't have the OL or the QB to finish off close games. It sucks, but there's only so much Harbaugh can do about that. One fewer turnover by a typically careful QB and we beat OSU, one more tackle by a very good special teams player and we beat FSU. There was definitely a degree of bad luck involved, it's why we finished 3rd in S&P despite finishing 3rd in our own division.
January 18th, 2017 at 11:54 PM ^
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took away the deep ball and allowed opposing defenses to collapse and attack the run game. I cannot think of a deep throw downfield after the first half of the Iowa game. If not for this, we would have been competitive in the playoff.
January 19th, 2017 at 9:22 AM ^
A 6 win Indiana team is basically a MAC team?
They finished ranked in the AP/Coaches poll behind Western Michigan, and they were ranked behind both Western and Toledo in S&P+/FEI.
January 18th, 2017 at 11:44 PM ^
January 19th, 2017 at 1:00 AM ^
Yes, we had the most talent. That's what this thread is about. But we didn't win the games necessary to finish higher than tied for third in the conference. At some point being the "best" i.e. most NFL draft picks, high rankings in advanced stats, etc. doesn't really matter unless you win the games. We underacheived this year relative to our talent.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:24 PM ^
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At the end of the game, they gave up a bunch of yards on a screen pass and then let a leadfooted QB run for a first down to make the field goal a chip shot as opposed to a iffy 40+ yarder (in which there kicker was hit or miss in that range).
That wasn't Clemson we were facing. Defense was supposedely Number 1. Not very elite to allow that.
Also, how many more years are we gonna hear the excuse "it would have been a win/easy win if the QB could hit an open downfield pass."
We lost a playoff berth because we got outcoached by a coach everyone laughs about all the time here.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:57 PM ^
January 18th, 2017 at 8:15 PM ^
We had a facemask called (even if it was the wrong call on that punt return). We allowed it to be called because a poor tackle attempt was made and we allowed the ref to have the impression that it was a facemask.
We stupidly ran into their punter multiple times.
We fumbled a kickoff.
Even though it was very questionable call, Devin Bush did not need to add that extra hit to allow the refs to call him on targeting (he was already being watched closely thanks to our joke of a local media making it a story because their precious team's player got his ass lit up).
Those are discipline problems and not being prepared for the environment.
At some point, you have to have a QB that is able to complete a downfield pass.
Also drives at the end of the game always decide a game and can change your entire perception of a team and season.
We could have been 7-5 in 2015 if a couple didn't go our way. We could have lost to Wisconsin and Indiana this year as well without two drives going our way.
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I stopped reading at "Akron-level performances."
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January 18th, 2017 at 6:39 PM ^
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And if Kalis, Magnuson and Braden all get drafted...what does that say about Smith?
January 18th, 2017 at 6:49 PM ^
Doesn't say much if he gets drafted before they all do. On top of that, late round picks don't always make the 53 man roster.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:10 PM ^
and it says, "There is talent there and when everyone did everthing correctly during the same play, we got a glimpse of what might be if this were the rule and not the exception." It is actually true that taken separately, most have the skill to dominate at their position. It also says for some reason this was never the case and that is why against lesser D lines, they looked fantastic and against those who forced them into thinking, along with executing, chances for success went down accordingly.
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The only changes I'd make if I were an NFL exec would be moving Glasgow up to Middle Rounds, and maybe dumping Smith and Magnuson down a level. Otherwise a pretty accurate grouping of our prospects to me though it's too early to know before the combine has even taken place.
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January 18th, 2017 at 6:47 PM ^
I want death by firing squad for the moron who signed off on a November night game @ Iowa.
Harbaugh hates night games and yet somehow that still got approved.
I still can't get over the fact how unprepared, unmotivated, and how pathetic a performance that was.
We got outcoached by a braindead moron.
The fact that our "Number 1" defense then allowed their QB to run free for a first down was just the last proof that the team wasn't close to ready to taking the next step.
Our defense ended up falling for a similar, late 4 quarter screen pass in the Florida State game to top things off.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:38 PM ^
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I know for a fact that both teams have to agree to play a November night game.
I am not sure on September/October ones.
January 18th, 2017 at 9:51 PM ^
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January 18th, 2017 at 7:12 PM ^
Was thinking exact same thing. Some team will get a steal there. Another kid that won't have to focus on school anymore and should be able to hone his craft and excel. I wanted to somehow jump through my tv when he got hit from the side on that cheap hit and take a full sprint at that punk. I bet the thought has crossed his mind that he's going to get even with that little buckeye bastard in the NFL. No cheap shot though. Straight up man taking on a bitch.
January 18th, 2017 at 7:27 PM ^
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January 18th, 2017 at 9:54 PM ^
I'd switch Him & Glasgow, if not put Ryan even higher.
Destroyer of Worlds.