doggdetroit

November 24th, 2015 at 9:09 PM ^

True, but you can also say Michigan got lucky on that goal line stand against Minnesota. If Claeys manages the clock correctly and not like a complete idiot, Minnesota gets 4 attempts from the goaline as opposed to 2. I have to believe the percentages of scoring from the 1 when given 4 attempts are alot higher than the percentages when given 2 attempts.

 

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BigBlue02

November 25th, 2015 at 12:35 AM ^

Mismanagement of the clock has nothing to do with luck. It's why Minnesota is shitty. They don't have good players or coaching. That isn't on the same planet as needing to punt to win a game and the punter fumbling the ball and then tossing it lightly into the hands of the opposing team

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carolina blue

November 24th, 2015 at 7:17 PM ^

Oklahoma? Wow what a jump. I am for it, I'm just surprised.

Also, for the playoff scenario people out there, the path is clear and very attainable. Win with MSU loss, beat Iowa. Stanford beats ND but loses p12cg. Oklahoma wins out.



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Go88Blue

November 24th, 2015 at 7:19 PM ^

If that happens with the exception of Stanford losing, I still think we would get in. That would mean a win over top 10 Ohio and an undefeated top 5 Iowa team. A two loss Michigan would look much better given that over a two loss Stanford. Also, we would have the common opponent in northwestern which they lost to and we destroyed 38-0.



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Dawkins

November 24th, 2015 at 7:20 PM ^

I think the committee is signaling that the b10 champ WILL get in. If we win the conference, then for all intents and purposes our minimum ranking is really 7, since we'd definitely pass iowa, osu, and msu. We'd just have to move 3 more spots to get in. Its possible if nd loses to stanford, baylor loses to tcu, ok loses to oks, and the committee punishes the big 12 for not having a championship game. If its between us and stanford for the final spot, then their loss to nw and our blowout/shutout of them will be given due consideration.

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DCGrad

November 24th, 2015 at 7:21 PM ^

Ahead of us. Need them to win and lose the Pac-12. Need OU to lose to Ok state. Need MSU to lose to PSU and beat Iowa. Baylor to lose to TCU. Stranger things have happened but damn. One dropped punt.

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alum96

November 24th, 2015 at 7:39 PM ^

Wins would be:

  • Michigan best wins would be 2 loss OSU, 2 loss NW (if they win this week), 3 loss Utah (if they win out), 1 loss Iowa (if they win out), 4 loss PSU (because they beat MSU), 3 loss BYU
  • Stanford best wins would be 2 loss ND, 3 loss Oregon, 3 loss USC, 3 loss Utah, and whomever shows up to the Pac 12 south game (USC or UCLA - which would be their 4th loss)

Losses would be:

  • Michigan 2 loss MSU (because they lost to PSU), 3 loss Utah
  • Stanford 2 loss NW, 3 loss Oregon

It would be very close.

We should also emphasize its not just about wins and losses at that point. Its about style points.

If UM beat Iowa 41-14 and Stanford beat USC/UCLA 31-30..... you have a different outcome then if ............UM beats Iowa 14-13 and Stanford beats USC/UCLA 41-10.

It would be that close.

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Franz Schubert

November 24th, 2015 at 7:51 PM ^

They will really dig into the resumes deeper and will not be able to overlook the disparity betweem common opponent results.

Michigan 2-0 against NW and Oregon St. Outscoring them by a combined 73-7!!

Stanford 1-1 by a combined 48-40.

The utter domination of the common opponents can not be overlooked when everything else is close.

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funkywolve

November 25th, 2015 at 12:15 AM ^

would factor into it.  Baylor beat Minny 30-7 last year but OSU only beat Minny 31-24.

Not sure how much weight the committee puts on common opponents or where they are played.  Stanford played both common opponents on the road while UM played both of them at home.  

For the Oregon St game, the Pac-12 didn't do Stanford any favors.  The week before Stanford played a night game at USC, and then had to go to Corvallis for a Friday night game.  Get home late Saturday night from the USC game, and then have a short week and an away game to boot on the short week.

 

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alum96

November 24th, 2015 at 7:29 PM ^

I am an outlier here who is not assuming PSU is going to win.

I want MSU out of the damn playoffs at any cost.  Only way that happens is ND and OU wins IMO. 

Clemson, Bama, OU, ND would have all the sex appeal and $$$.

Iowa may beat MSU but the way MMSU has won 5 games at 0:00 or on the last drive failing for opponent (Oregon, Purdue, rutgers) I think Dantonio has sold his soul and MSU is ND 2012 2.0.

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not TOM BRADY

November 24th, 2015 at 7:24 PM ^

They are setting it up to screw MSU. If ND beats Stanford. How would the committee then leave a 1 loss ND team out in favor of 1 loss sparty. While ND has a better loss and played tougher schedule.

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