Michigan's Pro day
Thomas Gordon and Fitz Toussant both ran a 4.49 forty yd dash, and Thomas Gordon also posted a 40.5 inch vertical leap...not bad!
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2014/03/fitz_toussaint_thomas…
Mlive somehow missed this bit of information
My guy @JJGallon just vert 39.5 & standing broad jumped 10ft 10 in. Any questions????? #MICHIGANBEAST
— Jeff Hecklinski (@JeffHecklinski) March 12, 2014
I will never not upvote this.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:29 PM ^
Can't read.
but it could be based on the double negative. There's a reason there are rules regarding the use of them...they make the intent difficult to determine. It's much easier to understand what someone means when they say "I will always upvote that" as opposed to "I will never not upvote that".
Again, I didn't down vote the guy because I'm not the grammar nazi type, but that could be the reason why someone did.
March 13th, 2014 at 10:09 AM ^
misunderstand what you are saying.
So to be clear you're not not the grammar nazi type?
March 17th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^
Now I'm confused.....As one of my favorite movie characters would say "truly...you have a dizzying intellect" - vizzini.
has the heart to make an NFL team very happy!
Playing RB is about YAC and/or being a 3rd down back, including being very good in pass protection. He's going to have problems convincing teams he can do those things.
March 13th, 2014 at 12:29 AM ^
but I say we learned almost nothing from last year in terms of RBs, opting instead to look at Fitz 2011.
(LINK) - MGoBlue had some stats for virtually everyone that tried out.
Some of the highlights on those who also participated:
In the bench press, defensive lineman Jibreel Black led all participants with 29 repetitions, while fellow defensive lineman Quinton Washington finished with 26. Wide receiver Joe Reynolds and defensive back Courtney Avery recorded vertical leaps of 37.5 and 36.5-inch jumps, respectively. Reynolds also posted a stellar broad jump with a distance of 10 feet, 5 inches. Linebacker Cam Gordon posted a 36-inch vertical and ran the 40 in 4.65 seconds.
March 12th, 2014 at 10:11 PM ^
March 12th, 2014 at 11:42 PM ^
I am in michigan! #GoBlue
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Nice workout in with @SchoBlue75 getting ready for the pro day..y'all need to follow this man #ForTheBoys
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— Taylor Lewan (@TaylorLewan77) March 10, 2014March 12th, 2014 at 10:14 PM ^
Seems like good performances. I have no idea if this bumps anyone's stock up or down, but I kind of hope a couple of these guys catch on if they aren't drafted.
March 13th, 2014 at 12:28 AM ^
March 12th, 2014 at 11:29 PM ^
Ya know.... Thomas Gordon may not have been Brian Dawkins, but he was a competent starting safety and if we're being honest, a three-toed sloth could probably count the number of those we've had the last six years on one hand.
I always liked him and am definitely one of the people puzzled by his benching in the middle part of the season.
March 12th, 2014 at 11:30 PM ^
He's been a 4th-6th prediction...I think he's moved up to a 3rd-5th.
He catches the damn ball, and he holds on to the damn ball.
I know the Lion's just signed Golden Tate but seriously do they not need more WR/slot WR's? Perfect guy to pick in the 3-5 range and he would be on a nice cheap rookie contract.
Defense wins championships.
March 13th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
The Lions are just hoping to get to the playoffs again. Championships are a fantasy.
March 13th, 2014 at 11:22 AM ^
Those are some pretty solid numbers, but unfortunately for both them and the Combine-type tests, they correlate poorly with NFL success, which is exactly why guys like Gallon should be thought of highly based on his ability to play the game. For example, a test like the bench press makes it beneficial to have short arms, yet in almost every position in football it is beneficial to have long arms. It really makes you question why they even use the test.
While I agree that bench press in itself isn't that helpful, neither is the number of receptions. Or the forty-yard dash without pads on.
When it comes down to it, all these things are data points. No one thing will make or break a prospect. If a guy runs for 2,000 yards and can bowl over every tackler in the way, the NFL's not going to care much if he runs a 4.6. If a quarterback completes 68% of his passes and wins a national championship, some NFL team is going to want him, even if he only completed 2 reps on the 225 lb. bench.
My point, which maybe wasn't that clear, is that these tests from the Combine or Pro Days don't mean much. Not saying that scouts don't care about them, but they aren't highly correlated with future NFL success. What should be important is how they actually play football with pads on.
Much of the data and studies to date on performance training are in regards to efferent/motor processes as opposed to afferent/sensory processes. AKA it's all about producing force. So, athletes look like studs in the weight room, but not of the field. The Combine/Pro Day is the same way, the athlete always knows what's coming...it's closed loop. A major distinction of elite athletes is that they can process, predict, and/or react to unpredictable actions. So, it's more about motor control than force production. This is primarily why scouts should put more stock on how a football player actually plays football rather than a battery of controlled, predictable, power production tests, which may be why a guy like Gordan looks like a stud, is muscular, is strong, can jump, and runs fast, but plays so so (for NFL standards).
Sorry...not sure why this posted twice aargh
My point, which maybe wasn't that clear, is that these tests from the Combine or Pro Days don't mean much. Not saying that scouts don't care about them, but they aren't highly correlated with future NFL success. What should be important is how they actually play football with pads on.
Much of the data and studies to date on performance training are in regards to efferent/motor processes as opposed to afferent/sensory processes. AKA it's all about producing force. So, athletes look like studs in the weight room, but not of the field. The Combine/Pro Day is the same way, the athlete always knows what's coming...it's closed loop. A major distinction of elite athletes is that they can process, predict, and/or react to unpredictable actions. So, it's more about motor control than force production. This is primarily why scouts should put more stock on how a football player actually plays football rather than a battery of controlled, predictable, power production tests.