meta: Slashcomments implemented
You'll probably notice that the comments are completely different. They suck way, way less now.
1. Permalinks
2. New comment notification
3. Moderation revamp
4. No more awful pale blue
On #3: once you get 100 points you will be able to moderate by choosing a positive or negative descriptor (or "Normal," for whatever reason). Positive will add a point to the comment, negative will take one away. Anything less than one--the default starting point--will be automatically collapsed. Click to embiggen. Logged-in users can set a lower or higher threshold for collapsing.
Userpoints are not hooked up to this new system, but that is next on the list. I think I'm going to have to sponsor development for that so it might not be immediate. I'm also going to make some small usability tweaks (less date, more headline, for one).
It works for IE (I even checked this time!) but there is a bizarre and unfortunate CSS bug that makes the author pane scarlet and grey. I'll work on that but, as always, STOP USING INTERNET EXPLORER. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? Until I fix it just stare at that horrible color combination. Yeah.
UPDATE: I changed the setting so people participating in the thread can moderate it. Also I hacked out half of the admittedly-excessive options available in the dropdown.
I'm just using your post as an example here.
Right now, your score reads "Score: 1 Trolling."
I guess I've understood "trolling" to be a bad thing, something you'd get downvoted for.
But here, it appears you've been upvoted. I don't understand.
Moreover, if I upvote you for "funny," and someone else upvotes you for "inciteful," then which one appears as the reason for the upvotes? I don't understand this either.
The Score label does not seem to change when you upvote/downvote someone unless you are the first moderater, which initially creates the first Score label.
For example, you had a Score: 1 with no label, which means that no one moderated your post. I just upvoted you with "Insightful". This created a Score: 2 Insightful label.
What, if anything, changes the Score label now? If 10 people upvote you with "Funny" does the label still remain "Insightful"?
Is it possible to upvote someone past 5?
E.g., I found a post that was upvoted 5 times, and read "insightful." I upvoted with the tag "interesting," and nothing happened. It continues to read "Score: 5 Insightful."
I tested this out. When I clicked "Trolling" for one of the +5 posts, it remained at 5.
It seems to keep your actual score, but will not display anything above 5.
and you're right - neither the score nor the tag changes for +5 posts regardless of whether you upvote or downvote.
I also downvoted a post with <5, and it went down by a point, but retained the same tag.
So this seems to suggest that achieving +5 is some kind of safe harbor.
Seems kind of arbitrary to me. Moreover, it doesn't reflect community sentiment concerning any given post.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:04 AM ^
Many things, Brian.
But FYI: I do not have the OSU color scheme of which you speak. The subject lines are true maize & blue, the only red being the "new" button. I know I have the most recent IE, whatever that is (one of the things wrong with me is I've lost count). For comparison, I'll check the color scheme out at work tomorrow where the computer system is even more primitive than my own.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:13 AM ^
The post titles are cluttered and disconnected from the rest of the post. Up votes and down votes are all the powers of moderation I ever wanted. Thanks for you efforts anyway.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:54 AM ^
But it was unnecessary - up and down votes that sum for userid's is all that's needed. This new thing is juvenile
April 27th, 2011 at 11:13 AM ^
whhheeee....is this a posbang?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:24 AM ^
He's embiggened his role with his cromulent performance!
April 27th, 2011 at 11:25 AM ^
A lot of us don't have a browser choice at work Brian.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:32 AM ^
Additional moderation tags for your consideration:
1. Gramatifail
2. Pedant
3. Ohio
4. Bewbs
5. Godwin
April 27th, 2011 at 11:45 AM ^
like having votes, but really wonder how the link between user points and posts are going to work.
Is something negative like troling or redundant really as bad as some other items like just gross stupidity or insensitive comments?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:45 AM ^
I think I'm too lazy to use the "moderate" function. I think it would be neat/hilarious if we had the option of "other" and giving our own explanation, and if you could see who voted what. That might be useless, just my opinion though.
I've often said you should be able to see who has up/down voted your post, similar to how the votes are currently available to see for the first post in a thread.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:09 PM ^
Holy crap, about 10 people got collapsed for allegedly trolling this post. I'll have to set my sensitivity lower.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:16 PM ^
completely turn it off, or set it at a custom level.
How do you even change the sensitivity?
to the option for how many posts show up per page. You can change it to -1 as of right now.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:33 PM ^
Would it be possible to flip where the comment heading and the score report are located? It's weird to have to read from the far left and then move down and over to continue reading. Small point, I know, but an important one. VERY important.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:45 PM ^
I'm most pleased that the red "New" indicator is back.
Have you tried Firefox Portable or Chrome Portable? Put one (or both) on a flash drive and see if you can connect to the web.
Once upon a time I was stuck with IE6 at work, came across PortableApps and could then use Firefox (Chrome wasn't out then). O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
I think it would be helpful to put the effect of the labels in the dropdown like "Normal +1".
I've been "moderating" various users to try to figure what the values are and what triggers the Score: label like "Insightful", "Normal", etc. when you have multiple points.
So, what are the values?
This new system is total nerdville. I think a simple +/- is more than enough for the moderation needs of this site.
My reaction to your first sentence was "I know, awesome, right?" even though you clearly didn't mean it that way.
What about an 'agree' option? I wouldn't want a 'disagree' option because that would produce unnecessary negging, but I think agreeing would be better than having to either comment or go with 'insightful'.
April 30th, 2011 at 10:26 AM ^
I agree
did anyone else have to do one of the prove that your human words to post. Those are going to start really pissing me off soon
April 28th, 2011 at 12:30 AM ^
1000 comments per page option. Nice touch.
How do we view page 2 (and previous ones) of the message board now? The links to those pages don't seem to work properly.
Awhile back, since there so few posts on the front page, I bookmarked page 2 (actually page 1):
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard?page=1
Increment the # if you want to go further back.
It seems like a reddit-like commenting system is something more Drupal sites would want.
Why not open source it through the Drupal site? Even if you pay for it, by open sourcing it, more eyes will be on it and it'll likely be better.
Does anyone else feel kinda judgemental/bitchy with all these new moderation options? I just mod'd someone for being offtopic... and felt like an asshole :/
For some reason I've lost the ability to moderate on every thread. Would this be due to someone moderating both my posts in this thread (and many other seemingly innocent posts) troll? Or is something wrong with my computer/network?
EDIT: And this post appeared at score 0, as opposed to score 1 for the other posts. Very much making it look like this is karma related.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:16 PM ^
Thanks, I can moderate again. Now I'm off to help out the other victims...
But I like how your own posts are in maize. That combined with the "new" returning should make scrolling through much easier.
Those two things definitely help a lot. If we can keep them and bring back post numbers, that would be great.
but there are FAR too many options. You could cut it down even just to something like Good, Bad and Ugly. Good, Bad and Troll. Whatever. I don't think all the specific explanations are necessary: if a post has good votes, I'm curious enough to read it; if it has bad votes, it's hidden and I don't need to read it. The Troll option could just make it easier for you to aim the banhammer.
In other words: scientific precision (eight hundred specific moderation options) isn't needed where blunt force (up/down/troll) can make it work.
Yeah, some of these options are too much and end up being a little confusing. If you call a post "Overrated," are you saying it's bad, or just good but not great? What about "Underrated" - is that good, but not quite "Funny"? And "Normal" - is that a good thing?
"Good", "Bad", and "Troll" would seem to work fine.
While I'm loving the return of "new" identifiers, I'd like to have a "hide cats" option to go along with the categories you mention above.
Oh...wait. I guess that's not quite what you meant.
my little comment drop box has apparently disappeared.. is anyone else having that issue? It was working about 10 mins ago and now is nowhere to be found
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I for one think it looks great.
When I post a new comment, it comes up as zero even though I've not commented on that thread before. Thus, it is auto-collapsed because obviously zero is less than 1. I don't understand why this is. Any help with that?
Any chance you can change the skins/color for the comment outline? On my computer (OS X, Mozilla 4) it's a really really light grey and very difficult to differentiate between parent and child comments, especially when certain threads are several comments long w/ several different levels. Something slightly darker (maybe the blue from the header) would make it much easier to see which comments are at which levels.
April 28th, 2011 at 10:51 AM ^
Is the moderation/description turned off already? I have more than the required 100 points but can no longer moderate and all of my posts are automatically collapsed.