META - MGoBlog rights a wrong, teams up with Hope for Pahokee Charity!

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August 27th, 2012 at 7:27 PM
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META - MGoBlog rights a wrong, teams up with Hope for Pahokee Charity!

EDIT:  See Brian's comments at end of OP.  As is the usual around here, the finest blog in the blogiverse, great good will come of what, just yesterday, seemed an unfortunate situation.  Great job, MGoBlog. 

ORIGINAL POST:

A week ago, Six Zero unveiled the 2012 MGoShirts.  Included amongst them was this one:

http://mgoblogstore.com/products/view/4147/49 

Well, as many of you know, Hope for Pahokee, a charity started by Martavious Odoms (amongst others) to help impoverished Pahokee, Florida, has been selling #Eatin t-shirts for some time now, with 100 percent of the proceeds being directed to fighting hunger in Pahokee.  http://hopeforpahokee.com/#65e/goodsie

#EATING shirt

A great deal of posters came forward in the comments section of the unveiling post to show their disdain for what is basically stealing.  (http://mgoblog.com/diaries/official-unveiling-mgoshirts-fall-2012-edition#comment-1684703) Unless MGoBlog has some sort of agreement with Hope for Pahokee to give 100 percent of the proceeds of the MGoBlog "Eatin'" shirt to the charity, selling this "rip-off" is absolutely shameful and all involved should be embarassed regarding their decision making.  Unfortunately, no representatives of MGoBlog have come forward to publicly address this issue, to remove the shirt from the store, to say there is a partnership with HfP, or in any way aleviate the concerns of the many posters regarding this product in the last 6 days since it was listed for sale.  As of 4:23 PST, the shirt is still for sale with no indication that proceeds benefit Hope for Pahokee.  

Come on, MGoBlog - you're better than this.

[ED: Hi. It's Brian. We're donating all proceeds from the shirt to Hope For Pahokee. I personally had missed the original Odoms shirt, and I'm sure Six did as well. You may resume panicking about the defensive line.]

 

 

 

 

The swag is back. 

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August 27th, 2012 at 7:29 PM | In before removal (Score:5 Normal)
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In before removal

I don't know who's hair is better, John Stamos circa Full House or Denard

GO BLUE

August 27th, 2012 at 7:31 PM | Removing this post and not (Score:5 Normal)
Butterfield
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Removing this post and not addressing a very valid concern of many users would be a sleezy move. 

The swag is back. 

August 27th, 2012 at 8:20 PM | Football In milk (Score:0 Offtopic)
August 27th, 2012 at 11:44 PM | At first I thought your post (Score:2)
snarling wolverine
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At first I thought your post must have been made under the influence of a psychotropic substance.  Then I realized it was in reference to the picture in the OP.

 

August 27th, 2012 at 7:31 PM | Have you ever heard of email? (Score:5 Normal)
uniqenam
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Have you ever heard of email? It's ridiculous to bring this to the attention of the mass blog public without first trying to contact Brian, Six Zero, Odoms, or anyone else involved.

I miss King of Belch.

August 27th, 2012 at 7:32 PM | Not saying they did (Score:2 Normal)
AAB
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but how do you know they didn't?

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

August 27th, 2012 at 7:33 PM | It was brought to the (Score:5 Normal)
Butterfield
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It was brought to the attention of the mass public when the shirt was advertised for sale on the website.  Multiple users commented on this with a week passing and no response - either in the previous thread or by email (Brian has our emails if he wanted to respond to my comment privately). 

Frankly this should be brought to everyone's attention so they don't buy the shirt. 

The swag is back. 

August 28th, 2012 at 9:06 AM | Your conceit is that it is all necessarily linked. (Score:1 Normal)
Section 1
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I've previously spoken out against Denard's on-field eating stunt as a way of celebrating touchdowns.  I hope we have seen the end of it.

The MGoShirt was seemingly celebrating that stunt.  I don't like either one, but I will at least give the MGoStore that much credit.  They were responding to what Denard did on the field.  Not commandeering a charitable symbol.

And by his own account, Denard's "eating" was related to the team's feeling that they had been starved from winning, and that it was "time to eat."  It was not, by Denard's own account, a signal of his support for a charity.

I've got nothing against Pahokee, or the Pahokee charity, or any other charity.  But I do like accuracy, and I like careful attribution.  The basic allegation in the OP is such a stretch, that I can't help but make this observation. 

I hope the Pahokee charity is a success and that it finds a way to do the good works that are intended.  I have also had enough of Michigan football players doing the "eating" thing on the field.  

OP fail.

 

 

August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 AM | Your inability to see the (Score:2 Normal)
Butterfield
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Your inability to see the forest through the trees rears its uninformed head once again.  This has nothing to do whether you liked or disliked the eating gesture.  All you need to know is this:

1)  A Michigan man has been selling "#Eating" t-shirts to raise funds for his charity to help Pahokee for several months.

2) A shirt with the same premise is offered for sale on MGoBlog months after the charity shirts were offered for sale.

3) One Michigan man does not undercut another Michigan man, especially when it comes to charitable work.

As illustrated by Brian's gesture to donate the proceeds to Hope for Pahokee, he gets it.  You don't - which sadly is no surprise.

The swag is back. 

August 28th, 2012 at 11:26 AM | As I pointed out, it is not "the same premise." (Score:-1 Trolling)
August 28th, 2012 at 11:54 AM | Nobody was claiming anything (Score:-1 Redundant)
August 28th, 2012 at 12:22 PM | I never said anything about any illegality. (Score:-1 Trolling)
August 28th, 2012 at 8:27 PM | god, you are childish and (Score:4 Normal)
david from wyoming
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god, you are childish and annoying

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August 28th, 2012 at 11:41 PM | Don't worry.   (Score:3 Normal)
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EDIT: Happy Hour - I don't need him to report me for the 157th time.

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August 27th, 2012 at 8:18 PM | I've asked Six Zero about (Score:5 Normal)
turd ferguson
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I've asked Six Zero about this in multiple threads and he has ignored each of my questions.  I don't buy that he didn't go back and read the comments in the MGoShirt unveiling less than 24 hours after it was posted.

August 27th, 2012 at 7:32 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

August 28th, 2012 at 11:38 PM | Access denied (Score:2)
BlueDragon
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That wolverine documentary thread didn't have a chance! Nice search.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

August 27th, 2012 at 7:42 PM | Weird (Score:0 Normal)
August 27th, 2012 at 7:44 PM | Boycott MGoBlog (Score:2 Normal)
Vivz
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Ok, maybe that won't happen. Boycott MGoStore.

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August 27th, 2012 at 7:47 PM | No one should ever eat again. (Score:5 Normal)
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No one should ever eat again.

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August 27th, 2012 at 7:49 PM | I didn't really comment on it (Score:5 Normal)
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Because I didn't want to pile on. But it does look bad that no one has even explained anything in a week. If MGoBlog has one flaw, it seems bad at communicating issues (HTTV, etc). There's tons of concepts for shirts; I don't see why anyone would be wedded to this one. It's not great. You'd think opening yourself up to litigious actions would be enough. But the silence has been pretty deafening.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

August 27th, 2012 at 7:53 PM | I was about to support you on (Score:5 Normal)
denardogasm
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I was about to support you on this but then your unnecessarily vitriolic final paragraph made me simply not like you, so now I will abstain from this argument.  Telling people their behavior is sleezy and they should be embarrassed without knowing their motivations is not the best way to get what you want, especially since they provide you with a free service.  So even though I agree with you in principle, I doubt this was intentionally stolen since the creators of the blog love Odoms and his work just as much as you.  As others have said, if you want something done, probably best to keep your bashing discrete.

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August 27th, 2012 at 8:04 PM | Well said. It might be a (Score:5 Normal)
Maize.Blue Wagner
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Well said. It might be a great idea to connect the shirt to the charity, but this isn't a democracy.  If you're so upset about it, boycott the blog, go start your own blog, make your own shirt. 

Again, I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but fwiw, I don't think your attitude is helping your cause. 

August 27th, 2012 at 8:09 PM | This is a terrible argument (Score:5 Normal)
AAB
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This blog has a section for users to create posts about Michigan football/the site.  How is that not a perfect place to raise this? And anyone saying that these things are more effective if handled in private is missing how public pressure actually works.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

August 27th, 2012 at 8:10 PM | Graham Spanier?  Joe Pa?  Is (Score:-1 Normal)
August 27th, 2012 at 8:11 PM | FWIW (Score:5 Normal)
AAB
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This is also a terrible argument, and is dangerously close to argumentum ad hitlerum.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

August 27th, 2012 at 8:18 PM | Really?  You're playing the (Score:5 Normal)
Farnn
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Really?  You're playing the "this is just like covering up for a serial pedophile" card?  Way to win people to your cause.

August 27th, 2012 at 8:21 PM | By a count of 22-2 as of 5:20 (Score:-1 Flamebait)
August 27th, 2012 at 8:25 PM | I'm with you on the t-shirt (Score:5 Normal)
turd ferguson
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I'm with you on the t-shirt issue.  Not with you on the Penn State humor/comparison.

August 27th, 2012 at 8:30 PM | In hindsight it was a bad (Score:-1 Normal)
August 27th, 2012 at 8:44 PM | Please provide one shred of objective evidence that (Score:4 Normal)
LB
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someone wants it to go away quietly. 

You've had your 15 seconds of fame. Wait for some response before you try for national attention.

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

August 27th, 2012 at 8:49 PM | One shred of evidence.  Okay, (Score:-1 Normal)
August 27th, 2012 at 8:56 PM | Sorry, grammar police (Score:3 Normal)
ppToilet
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elicit not illicit

/end nitpicking

August 27th, 2012 at 9:18 PM | Well, from where I sit, you responded to: (Score:2 Normal)
LB
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I'm with you on the t-shirt issue. Not with you on the Penn State humor/comparison.

I think I'm beginning to understand the problem.

So, you're not sayin', you're just sayin'. Yeah

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

August 27th, 2012 at 9:26 PM | You do understand how a (Score:-1 Flamebait)
August 27th, 2012 at 9:37 PM | I never said go away quietly. (Score:5 Normal)
Maize.Blue Wagner
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I never said go away quietly. I said that this blog is not required to meet the demands of individual users or "aleviate the concerns of the many posters".  They may want to if they think that's the best way to run a blog and increase their readership, and if they don't, they may drive people away.  That's the risk they run. However, I think it's arrogant to come on the board and start telling the people who  have made all this possible what they should and should not do. 

I have no problem with you being as loud as you want, but your way of going about it has hurt your cause in my eyes...a cause I otherwise wasn't very familiar with until this post. 

August 27th, 2012 at 8:48 PM | You should ask them to give (Score:5 Normal)
JBE
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You should ask them to give you a couple jokes. Good ones.

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August 27th, 2012 at 9:22 PM | Sometimes I wish 5 wasnt the (Score:5 Normal)
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Sometimes I wish 5 wasnt the max.

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August 27th, 2012 at 8:30 PM | Your options (Score:5 Normal)
Vivz
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A) Six zero is ripping off the idea from HfP, and is everything the OP said

B) Six Zero is negligent of the greater Michigan commmunity outside of MGoBLog and it is an honest coincidence 

C) Six Zero thinks by having a bowl instead of a hashtag it is differentiated enough that it is his own original work AND that its ok to compete with a charity.

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August 28th, 2012 at 7:31 AM | Awwww, (Score:5 Normal)
lbpeley
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but then Butterfield won't get all the attention.

August 27th, 2012 at 7:51 PM | It's hilarious that Six Zero (Score:5 Normal)
strafe
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It's hilarious that Six Zero has gotten on people's shit for using his images as their avatar, then does something like this.

i should probably stop posting on mgoblog when I'm drunk.

August 27th, 2012 at 8:20 PM | Word.  An example: That (Score:5 Normal)
turd ferguson
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Word.  An example:

That avatar is completely and exclusively my own creation, idea, and execution, and recently I have been kicking around the idea of returning to it.

I'd really appreciate it if you used something else.  Thanks.

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/good-counsel-football-tweet

August 27th, 2012 at 9:13 PM | ewww (Score:5 Normal)
wiper
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what the fuck? on one hand he can scold someone for making a picture he made an avatar, on the other he can steal a t-shirt idea and it's okay?

yuck

August 27th, 2012 at 7:58 PM | Atleast (Score:4 Normal)
MGoBallsack
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Those kate upton shirts were awesome right!??

 

/s

Big and Firm

August 27th, 2012 at 8:00 PM | While I would prefer to see proceeds go to the charity... (Score:4 Normal)
MaizeMN
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...I don't believe that the MGoStore is obliged to do so; free market economics and the like. We as consumers, however, can choose which shirt to purchase, knowing full-well where the proceeds will be distributed.

L.S.A. '88

August 27th, 2012 at 8:00 PM | I just bought 10. (Score:2 Overrated)
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I just bought 10.

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August 27th, 2012 at 9:12 PM | touche (Score:2 Normal)
jdon
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I just didn't buy ten.

booyah!

 

We are the dead.

August 27th, 2012 at 8:00 PM | As supportive of all things (Score:5 Normal)
Bluemandew
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As supportive of all things Michigan as this blog is you would think that it would have been addressed. It appears they are stepping on the toes of a worth-while charity run by a alumn. 

My hope is that a arrangement has been made and we have just not been made aware of it.

Just do it!

August 27th, 2012 at 8:01 PM | Brian (Score:2)
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Brian killed my kitten. Allegedly.

August 27th, 2012 at 8:24 PM | Was there 5 in the litter? (Score:3 Normal)
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Was there 5 in the litter?

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