Hoken's Heroes

January 16th, 2011 at 12:13 PM ^

• What should we make of senior cornerback Ryan Hill saying some UM (edit: Miami not Michigan) players act like ``little boys''? One coach on UM's 2010 staff said some players are undisciplined and immature and should spend more time on football and less on partying.

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shoelaces

January 16th, 2011 at 10:33 AM ^

Goudis was born in the Florida area,..  Miami is no.1 for Crawford now, he's gone,... recruiting is gonna be ugly for the next 2-3 weeks,...man hope we don't lose Kellen Jones commitment....and Fisher switching to Mich. State WHo ?...

Brand new start to the week and getting bad news already,....a Kicker & QB are needed come NSD......

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lilpenny1316

January 16th, 2011 at 10:47 AM ^

A coaching change shouldn't affect them too much.  And in this case, the job was practically his to win.  He seemed solid before the CC, so how could a change in coaches affect him that badly?

Personally, I'd rather kick field goals in south Florida than the midwest, but he seemed okay with Boise and A2 weather.

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detrocks

January 16th, 2011 at 10:53 AM ^

It's not like Goudis is a guy like Fisher or Beyer--- guys who grew up in Michigan, wanted to go to Michigan and committed early.   Goudis has only been committed for about three weeks and that was right after breaking a commitment from another school- a school that he said he was solid on right before breaking his commitment to them. 

I think this is more about Matt Goudis than it is about Michigan.   I don't say that to rag on the guy, it's more that he's just looking for the best situation and felt that it was Miami.   I don't think it has much to do with the CC or even Michigan at all. 

 

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Belisarius

January 16th, 2011 at 10:49 AM ^

Raymon Taylor has already set up an official visit to Pitt. I tell you, I'm all for extending full faith to Hoke, but whatever he is doing, he doesn't seem to be locking these kids down. I'm not really thinking about Goudis, that kid is obviously a mercenary little weasel, but even the recruits who more or less wanted a nod and a handshake are already casting about for other options. i mean, why couldn't we have official visits this weekend? Pitt hired their (Mk. II) coach one day before us, and they're having a big group of official visits this weekend, and apparently, more of our recruits next weekend.

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Belisarius

January 16th, 2011 at 11:17 AM ^

Is that he's been on the job for one day less than Pitt's coach, but Pitt's coach is already wining and dining Bryant and Taylor. One day should not make that much of a diiference. Meanwhile, the Bryant's  and Taylor's of the world, who've been waiting for so long, are starting to think they've waited long enough. I like Hoke, I wasn't against his hire, etc., but I don't think it was wise to cancel the visits this weekend.

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blueapple

January 16th, 2011 at 11:24 AM ^

Good point.  I forgot about Pitt and their new coach.  Does Pitt have their staff in place.  I know they hired Gibson and Magee, which probably helped with Taylor and Bryant. 

All I am saying is this.  I told myself that I don't expect anything from him until next week on the recruiting front.  After today, he should have his staff in place and have talked to all the current players.  The current players are the most important right now.  I expect him to hit the recruiting road next week with staff in place. 

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Belisarius

January 16th, 2011 at 11:40 AM ^

I'm not sure if Pitt's staff is complete now, but I know it wasn't when they started setting up visits. It seems to be a question of philosophy, or energy, if you prefer: Todd G. wanted to get the kids in Pittsburgh so they could hear his pitch, see the campus and the Cathedral of Learning, see Heinz Field...and, not by coincidence, the Steelers playing IN Heinz Field in a playoffs game. Compared to all, having you positions coach in place seems trivial. Having your staff complete doesn't matter if the recruits have drifted elsewhere. I'd rather have Hoke bring them up and sell them on Mkchigan now and let them meet the remaining staff later than visa versa.

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blueapple

January 16th, 2011 at 11:53 AM ^

I see your point.  IMHO, maybe he wants to get his ducks in line with the staff to further help him with recruiting.  The recruits and commits are probably jsut as interested as who their HC is as well as their position coaches.  I think Pitt got a little bit of a jump because both these guys may have ahd relationships with their new coaches.  I understand your concern.  I think if you were making this statement on Tuesday, I would be completely in the same boat.  Maybe he never experienced this when moving to SDSU.  If that is true then that is on DB more than him. 

The other problem is when you have more of an unknown coach, maybe it is better to have all the pieces together before hitting the road.  I know I am winging it here. 

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Tater

January 16th, 2011 at 10:53 AM ^

Your task, Mr Hoke, should you choose to accept, is to undo the damage David Brandon did to this recruiting class.  If you are captured or killed, the IMF will disavow any knowlege of your actions.  This tape will self-destruct in five seconds.  Good luck, Mr Hoke.

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cadillacjack333

January 16th, 2011 at 10:53 AM ^

David Brandon is big on having a process so this must be rubbing off on Hoke.  Before talking to recruits you need to look at 5000 hours of tape.  You know thet Rivals, ESPN, Lemming and Scout don't know what they are doing so you have to create that round object known as the wheel first.

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teldar

January 16th, 2011 at 11:31 AM ^

Goudis said last week he would be switching to miami and it would not matter what M's new coach had to say. This was before the hire of hoke. He was not coming here. Period. According to Goudis.

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Section 1

January 16th, 2011 at 2:16 PM ^

I'd be happy to be corrected if the timeline isn't right, but there was a week between the firing of Rodriguez and the hiring of Hoke.  One, hellish, awful,gut-destroying week.  And that was when Matt Goudis surpised no one with his decision to visit Miami (that may have been in the works for a while) and to decommit from Michigan to reopen his recruitment for a shot at one of Miami's 147 scholarships still available.

I just wanted to be clear on who or what might have been blamed.  I don't want to blame "Brady Hoke" for stuff that had nothing to do with him.  I do want to heap all of the correctly-placed blame on everybody involved with the firing of Rich Rodriguez.

If you want to criticize Brandon about the transparently phony business of what an "offer" really is; be my guest.  I won't disagree with you.

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