Maryland Snowflakes - The Offense

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on November 2nd, 2019 at 11:00 PM

This will be your thread for hot takes and snowflakes regarding the offense and offensive playcalling in our game against Maryland.

Michology 101

November 2nd, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^

Well, some people might be overreacting to one bad throw. Though many of us are going by what Dylan has shown overall in his limited playing time this season.

I don't believe Shea is a very good quarterback, but Dylan hasn't done much of anything that would indicate he's better than Shea and deserves to be the starter.   

 

  

LV Sports Bettor

November 2nd, 2019 at 6:11 PM ^

You don't think the Mccaffrey family hasn't got him some of the best coaches coming up etc? You think that what all the real good Qb's are doing and are only good because someone what? showed them how to throw better? A

t some point it's on the players. You or I could never be a good qb even with the world's greatest QB coach working with us every day. We all have our limits. We already have a former NFL qb who's been watching over him daily for years.

MGoGrendel

November 2nd, 2019 at 7:44 PM ^

Clausen, the ND QB around the time Tate was here (the one that looked like an Emu) got an NFL paycheck for carrying a clipboard for way too many years (8?).  He sucked and had QB coaches since he was in kindergarten. 

rice4114

November 2nd, 2019 at 8:16 PM ^

We have had 4 consecutive Clausens since Rudock. Im grabbing at something. If its the player then we are on a bad string. Our plays are 25% bad throws and 25% drops if not more. Im not sure why the forward pass seems so difficult a play. Honestly last weeks hurricane has been our best offensive coordinator this year. We kept running after 3 yards or less and it worked after a while. No “modern” coordinator wants to be a run first guy but ND showed me our best path to success. 

BroadneckBlue21

November 2nd, 2019 at 8:21 PM ^

Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. Have you people ever heard of development? In one quarter, you judged a sophomore in DMac? You never played a sport, did you? He has a stronger arm than Shea and he’s a better runner, and next year he will have added another 10-15 pounds of muscle—and he will have more reps as the presumed front runner. 

 

njvictor

November 3rd, 2019 at 1:32 PM ^

I honestly would not be shocked if Milton won the starting job next year. His running ability is definitely a plus, but his ability to throw the ball downfield is just not there and he just hasn't shown an ability to be consistently accurate. Milton definitely has a better arm and definitely seems like he's developed touch as shown on that TD bomb to Sainristil earlier in the season. He's also shown that he's athletic enough and smart enough to run and make the right decision on the read option

TheCube

November 2nd, 2019 at 3:13 PM ^

Shea has 500x more experience. No shit he’s better but he’s not THAT much better, which is exactly why the offense is so sluggish and mediocre with him. 
 

Why do Shea cultists love jumping down the throat of Caff when he messes up but coddle Shea who has way more experience? Kid clearly had quicker decision making skills and physical ability. If Caff starts this year Michigan has the same record and bounces into 2020 with a game ready qb. 

vanarbor

November 2nd, 2019 at 3:21 PM ^

Your sentence describing Shea cultists coddling him is quite hilarious, because that’s what the majority of fans do whenever McCaffrey and Milton make a good play. You’re just too busy as a “McCaffrey cultist” I guess if we’re using that term.

I agree, the team would have the same record if McCaffrey started, but that’s only because the schedule so far has played out a certain way where you can’t pin our losses on the QB while none of our wins you can credit your QB for.

But if you know that Shea is a better quarterback at the beginning of the season, you have to play him. It’s that simple. No one can predict that the QB wouldn’t have a significant effect on our W-L record on the season.

TheCube

November 2nd, 2019 at 3:27 PM ^

I explained the difference. Shea should be better given that he’s on his last year of eligibility. Caff can be excused due to lack of experience. 
 

It is what it is for this year so I will stop harping on it after this week. It’s just agonizing seeing routes be wide open missed or receivers like Black being blamed by announcers for not going far enough for a 1st down when Shea throws a trash ball that needs to be dove backwards for. 

Bad throws happen but not at this rate. Nico 5050 is a TD with a good throw. Same with Mckeons sideline pass. Ditto on Eubanks who got blamed for a drop that was above his head and behind him!

 

The amount of excuses heaped on Shea by announcers and people here is ridiculous. 

corundum

November 2nd, 2019 at 3:14 PM ^

I don't think McCaffrey looked that bad. He had a couple accurate passes that were straight dropped. Mckeon ran into the umpire on the near interception and would have been in front of that defender if he ran a clean route. Also, the playcalling was uninspired during his two drives.

LKLIII

November 2nd, 2019 at 9:58 PM ^

On a related note, at some point in the game you could clearly see the sideline play cards for a minute or two. At least from the TV camera angle, the sunlight was reflecting off the laminated cards in a way that obstructed the view of what the card actually was. 

Perhaps the view from the line of scrimmage was different, but at the time, it made me wonder if in some circumstances, the guys have a hard time seeing the cards, thus screwing up the execution somewhat. 

Phaedrus

November 2nd, 2019 at 6:13 PM ^

I think that if McCaffrey hadn't been injured he would be the best QB right now. We were playing him in non-garbage time before the injury and he looked better.

The injury really set him back—not just because he lost practice opportunities, but also because you can tell the timing between him and the receivers isn't dialed in like it was early in the season.

I still maintain that McCaffrey has a much higher ceiling than Patterson.

RXwolverine

November 2nd, 2019 at 6:32 PM ^

No shit. I’ve criticized Harbaugh for many things but one thing I’ve always praised him for is that so far 5 years here he’s always chosen the correct guy to lead the team. He chose ruddock than speight than okorn than peters than Shea. Each time the qb he chose was the best available qb on the team. Stop calling for the backups. With that said don’t overreact over Dylan. He’s gonna be fine but regardless Harbaugh will choose the most capable qb next season to lead the team

Alumnus93

November 2nd, 2019 at 4:00 PM ^

I don't think Gattis is adding value... but he could be a good WR coach... he marketed himself very well. I think Harbaugh and Warinner saved the day vs ND.

Haskins definitely looks our best RB... many plays he'd have been stuffed for no gain and still ekes out four yards...   Charbonnet is a year behind him and I imagine he will be as good or better next year, which is saying something.  Its as if our analysts made a profile of the new type of RB they want and went out and got two of them...they seem almost identical save the year difference in age and experience.

Phaedrus

November 2nd, 2019 at 8:58 PM ^

I think Charbonnet has better vision and is shiftier. Plus, I'm pretty sure he's playing injured and they're waiting for the off-season for surgery. You'll notice that they make a point of limiting his snaps.

If Charbonnet was healthy I'd say he's better. As it stands I think he's dead even with Haskins. However, I disagree about them being identical. Haskins seems to be better in a straight line when hitting a single gap while Charbonnet appears to be better dancing around congestion.