LSU's OC, Mike Denbrock, leaving for ND. Any implication for Underwood's recruitment?
Mike Denbrock is leaving for ND. First, I completely understand it. Who wants to work with that purple guy? Second, fuck Notre Dame. Third, is this going to help us with Underwood's recruitment?
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:04 AM ^
Maybe
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:06 AM ^
Possibly?
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:07 AM ^
Perhaps?
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:10 AM ^
Exactly my thought
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:39 AM ^
I'll get back to you on this.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:50 AM ^
How sure are you, though?
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:23 AM ^
It will help, unless it doesn't.
December 22nd, 2023 at 7:46 PM ^
My thoughts on pretty much everything in life!
December 22nd, 2023 at 1:03 PM ^
Quizás, quizás, quizás
December 22nd, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^
Quiznos, Quiznos, Quiznos
December 22nd, 2023 at 6:34 PM ^
They have a pepper bar!
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:20 AM ^
But, are you sure?
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:26 AM ^
Seems Jim Harbaugh thinks it could, as he points out "No man knows what the future holds".....
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:28 AM ^
There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. We know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:33 AM ^
You know, you never really know, you know?
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:33 PM ^
You can't know, well, you can't ever really know
Would you really want to know?
How the hell would you know?
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:52 AM ^
Every time that quote comes up, I find myself thinking "Yes, exactly!"
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:22 AM ^
Definitely Maybe
December 22nd, 2023 at 2:34 PM ^
I said maaayyyyyyybbbeeeeeeeeeeee
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:04 PM ^
Was he paying the NIL?
December 22nd, 2023 at 1:16 PM ^
Exactly. There i$ only one rea$on he would go to L$U over Michigan. It'$ not to win.
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:09 PM ^
Telling
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:43 PM ^
Yes, he has leverage to push for a bigger bag from LSU
December 22nd, 2023 at 1:05 PM ^
We'll know more later.
December 22nd, 2023 at 1:52 PM ^
It’s hard to say. This is a very complicated case. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what have you’s, And, uh, a lotta strands to keep in our heads, man.
December 22nd, 2023 at 4:51 PM ^
Indubitably
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:05 AM ^
Who knows. 247 shows the LSU QB coach being his primary recruiter, so I don't know what kind of impact Denbrock has.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:47 AM ^
I think his primary recruiter to LSU was NIL. He’s big time at LSU. That guy out works everyone.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:48 AM ^
He’s not taking the NIL $$$ to Notre Dame. Dude will be keeping his commitment to LSU.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:05 AM ^
The QB coach is his main recruiter so if he gets a promotion to OC, it could hurt our chances.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:05 AM ^
Not unless he is taking “the bag” with him on the way out.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:10 AM ^
To all of your points:
- I've never understood why people would want to work with Brian "Fahmuhlee" Kelly, but others also make the same argument for any other coach (ie Harbaugh), so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Yes. Always.
- This isn't clear at the moment. Joe Sloan (LSU's QB Coach) is BU's main recruiter per 247 Sports. If he follows Denbrock to ND, I would think so since 247 doesn't even have ND on his offer sheet.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:13 AM ^
My neighbor played for Kelly at GVSU, He still doesn't understand how he gets players to play for him. He has nothing good to say about him as a person but an excellent recruiter.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:23 AM ^
A lot of his former players had that same asshole persona.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:44 AM ^
A really good friend played for him at university of Cincinnati. Has nothing good to say about the guy..
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:04 PM ^
Great recruiters are either great liars, have figured out an under the table pipeline system or both.
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:45 PM ^
My wife was in the marching band while they were both at Grand Valley. He was even an asshole to the band. Even when the band traveled to Alabama for the DII National Championship game.
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:47 PM ^
My cousin played for him at Central and was there for the Butch Jones transition. He actually liked Kelly more than Butch.
December 22nd, 2023 at 6:11 PM ^
Well 3 of my 4 national championship rings makes me have fond memories of my time at GVSU under him.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 AM ^
No effect. I'd be shocked if he ends up at Michigan.
As others have said, I feel like our problem with 5-stars, in order of importance:
1) Bag up front (lack thereof)
2) Lack of showcase potential (particularly on offense and for a QB/WR) in our scheme
3) Admissions and academic rigor. I'm not arrogant enough to think there is a huge gap here, but, I also don't think you can completely "mail it in" like you can at other programs.
We need to selectively pay players up front. I don't know how you balance to that with culture, but we need to figure it out.
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:23 AM ^
I honestly have nothing to add. Uncle Jett nailed the answer 100%
December 22nd, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^
2) Lack of showcase potential (particularly on offense and for a QB/WR) in our scheme
Seriously, name a program that gets showcased more frequently -- we can complain about ESPN / SEC bias, but if Harbaugh takes a dump - it is a major news story. Also, JJ is still getting 1st round hype - despite the lackluster numbers and nature of our offense.
Agree with points 1 and 3
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:00 PM ^
I think he means, based on scheme, less of an opportunity for QBs and WRs to put up crazy stats.
Jayden Daniels, for example, threw for 3800 yards on 327 attempts
JJ threw for 2600 on 287 attempts.
Personally, I think that comes with a pretty huge caveat, JJ missed nearly 2 full games by sitting out 4th quarters of blow outs...I didn't watch LSU enough this year to know if the same is true for Daniels...or other quarterbacks with significantly more attempts and/or yards than JJ.
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:19 PM ^
If you're making comparisons, just looking at passing yards *really* undersells it. The difference is much more striking if you consider rush yards and total TDs:
Daniels: 1,134 rush yards, 50 total TDs
JJ: 146 rush yards, 23 total TDs
December 22nd, 2023 at 3:01 PM ^
Yeesh. How great would it be to see those QBs flipped for a season just to see how it played out?
JJ as a Heisman QB would probably be a thing.
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:23 PM ^
Daniels sat the entire second halves of baby seal clubbings of Grambling and Army. Otherwise, he played the 4th quarter of every other game, including blowouts of MS State, Auburn, and a late season decimation of Georgia State (surely to pad his Heisman campaign).
December 22nd, 2023 at 12:39 PM ^
You are scratching at the surface of the topic. What is JJ YPA? ~9 ypg... What is Danials? ~13 ypg (more flash, more explosive). Completion %? JJ - 74% Daniels 72%... Potential NFL draft location? JJ - 1st round (right now mid 1st) Daniels - 1st round upper... Rushing? JJ - 57 att for 146 yds Daniels - 135 for 1134 yds
My point here is that from a 5 star HS QB, he can look at the results at both schools and basically see zero difference in performance (except rushing) and one school got him the Heisman (well earned) on an also ran team AND will get him drafted in the Top 10 in the NFL, but also will pay up front a TON of NIL...
It would be difficult to look at the results and turn away the PERSONAL goals and accomplishments and up front $$$$$. It really takes a TEAM player to look at those results and say to himself, I'm good...I'll get paid eventually and work to be a part of a TEAM culture of winning a championship (which technically Michigan has not won yet) Conference titles are nice, but the BIG prize is what would really move the needle for these young men...
FYI - I know that purple face is an AssHat and JH is far far superior of a person and coach. I am just noting that IF someone only looked at the numbers, it is pretty clear what their choice is for PERSONAL goals...