Long Dave Brandon Interview in Detroit News
Wojo hit all the hot topics. I had a chance to personally ask DB about a couple of these topics myself this summer and he gave the exact same answers. As a matter of fact, he had some very strong opinions for the B1G with regard to playing at East Lansing two years in a row. He does a very good job of raising money for all of our facility upgrades. Do I agree with everything? No, but I am very happy to have him over Bill Martin. CFB is changing and we need to adapt.
Have you seen what Coach Rodriguez has done at ARIZONA? Something tells me it isn't all Coach Rodriguez's fault it didn't work out here... in fact, I lay a minority of the blame at his feet.
Then you don't know what you're talking about.
I just prefer DB ove Bill. I like the direction of the Athletic Dept.
This statement depresses me endlessly.
Sarcastic tones are often lost on the interwebs...I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that's what happened here....
While I agree Hoke needs to be afforded more opportunity, his predecessor should have been given the same patience and support.
the major difference was the almighty dollar. If the donors are not "all-in" and you have some portion of the Alumni and fan base against him he was not going to be afforded the same opportunity. The general feeling around the program was described as disconnected, divided, and struggling. Oh well, we have beaten that horse to death. I am moving forward.
When you've won 6 conference games in 3 years, got investigated for breaking rules, AND have the worst defense in 120 years of football, you don't deserve anything.
The fuck? Hoke won one too. What's your point?
RR finished tied for NINTH, TENTH, and SEVENTH while at Michigan.
My quicky Wiki search showed him with a 1st place MAC finish. I hastily posted my reply without considering a lost championship game. +1 for more thorough research than me, but I stand by my point.
When the hell do I get my Big Ten Champions shirt then? Hoke has had one fluke good year with Coach Rodriguez's players and managed to shit the bed since then. Ooooohhh recruiting rankings! Tell me when that matters in November and December. Michigan couldn't rush the ball forward for TWO STRAIGHT WEEKS and nearly lost to what, three MACish teams in the first weeks of the season?
Simply being a "Michigan Man" (not even a damn graduate, just being a position coach for a few years doesn't earn you that title in my book) does not buy you unlimited time. You know what other alumni don't donate money? Ones who see the Michigan brand and tradition driven into the fucking ground by Dave Brandon and his incompetent hires.
Ohio State got the University of Florida's old coach. We got San Diego State's. That should tell you enough about this program's problems. Dave Brandon and Brady Hoke have watched this team drop from a 1b level program, to a 2b level program. We got our asses handed to us on a national stage by a mediocre Big 12 team in Kansas State. Didn't even look like we wanted to be there. Alumna like me who pay big money to go see a bowl game don't donate to programs who look like they just want to go home. Great job Coach Hoke, you've really earned your top-5 coaching salary.
Did a RichRod argument just break out??!? What year is this???
from now to eternity. Please let's just move on...
Does anyone think Nuss might be a legitimate option for the next HC (2-3 seasons down the road, I would say) if Hoke wouldn't work out?
If Hoke loses his job, it's most likely due to a shitty offense. Why would you promote the offensive coordinator to head coach if his offense sucks?
For a minute, I thought you were listing Hoke's stats. Right up until I got to the worst defense in 120 years part. Worst rushing offense in 120 years is Hoke's calling card.
Let's try a zone guru. Oh, he's not a good ol' boy. Not acceptable. Let's go back to man blocking. Oh, we don't have the recruiting profile for that anymore and in-state demographics don't favor building a beefcake OL like Wisconsin without even trying too hard. Let's go back to zone after 3 years of moving from zone to man blocking.
Thanks, old rich white men. Thanks a lot.
"Thanks, old rich white men. Thanks a lot." Hey. I'll take back Coach Carr any day.
And let's not let Mary Sue Coleman escape without taking her share of the last decade's fiasco.
But don't pretend like the hard-liners would never cut off their nose to spite their face ten times out of ten.
I do believe that Brandon is being truthful when he says that Hoke's job is safe right now, I think it is foolish to think that this is not a make or break year for Hoke on certain levels. I think he would all out of excuses by next year, not this year, but he needs to clean some things up before the AD really has no way to defend the extension of his tenure. His team did not perform last year, and in some cases looked bordering on uncoached and incompetent. You combine that with certain off the field miscues in terms of the handling of certain events and the choices made by his players, and you have a combination of failures that can prematurely end a coach's stay with a particular program, especially one under a constant unrelenting microscope.
We are getting the horses again in recruiting. This program is about a year away from being a very, very desirable head coaching assignment once again. That seat is going to get uncomfortably warm if this season does not plant the seeds for high level success in the very near future.
Hoke is in year 4 of 5. We have not heard anything about an extension to his contract. If DB and the administration was completely confident they would be talking about a contract extension to provide security and that translates into recruiting kids for the future. Recruits want to know if the coach will be there long term. I think DB is taking a wait and see approach this year. My sense is that 7-6 will be unacceptable. What the magic number is for Hoke is up to the decision makers.
with a win over OSU or MSU would go a long way toward that extension. Nobody is expecting the world. He needs to deliver the bottom line though or I don't think any extension is likely.
not taking into account the power shift that has occurred in the BIG over the last ten years. There are three, arguably four, more established programs than Michigan in the conference right now. And we go to Notre Dame, to East Lansing, and to Columbus. If we had those 3 games at home my bottom line may be different, but those are 3 of the most difficult places to win in all of college football my friend. This year, 8-4 and a Capital One/Outback bowl will buy him some time, probably not an extension, but some breathing room. 2015 would be the year to do damage (if Sugar Shane can sling like it looked like he could against KSU)
Staee beat fucking Stanford in the Rose Bowl last year. Ohio can compete with any team in the country. These teams do not "blow." Get serious. This is not the toughest conference in the country but it isn't complete bullshit either.
Man, now I am the one defending Hoke when I said he should be on the hotseat to a certain degree. No, we are not going to win a national championship next year, let's just get that settled and got on with things.
Hoke pretty much has to be extended after this year if he's not going to be fired. Coaches almost never go into the last year of a contract without an extension. It hurts recruiting too much.
but it has not been Hoke not living up to his end of the deal for the last 10 years. He has been here 3. That is the conversation, what does Hoke need to do. Yeah, Michigan needs to do a hell of a lot better than 8-4 to be Michigan, but the question is what does Hoke need to do in terms of job security. If he goes 8-4 this year, with a victory against Notre Dame or Michigan Staee or Ohio, I think he will probably get extended or that he is at a minimum safe for another year.
with a win at Notre Dame in primetime in the "show me" game of the series + "respectable losses" (if there is such a thing) to MSU and OSU + New Years Day bowl win = his job is 100% safe for another year.
once said, "he just convinced me, give me my dollar back." 9-3 with ND win and State/OSU losses and he does keep his job, but you are right, 8-4 may not do it considering what the other losses would have to be.
that almost got you killed in Germany.
Give it up.
And for those that think no one wants to see Michigan fail, we have Clark to prove that some do hope for failure this year.