Live: World Cup Draw

Submitted by uncle leo on April 1st, 2022 at 12:03 PM

So, I just ran downstairs to do some laundry and ran back up to turn on the draw.

What in the heck is on the TV right now?? Is this the right station??

drjaws

April 1st, 2022 at 1:00 PM ^

I know 3-4 people who played D1 collegiate level soccer (a couple even went semi-pro in Costa Rica etc.).

Every single one of them has had multiple ankle, knee, foot surgeries. The shoulder to shoulder hitting/tackling can be rough. 

It's odd that a sport that is that physically demanding and tough, people will act like  they got shot by a 50 caliber sniper when they barely got grazed.

Which reminds me of this hilarious video.

 

TrueBlue2003

April 1st, 2022 at 3:42 PM ^

Yes, it is brutal because of the speed of collisions, lack of protection and spikes on the shoes.

The acting is gamesmanship.

1) Because of the speed of the game and the size of the pitch (so distance from players that the ref is) it's very hard to see contact, so players tend show the ref when they need to make a call.  That obviously has perverse incentives, so I do like the increasing crack down on flops.

2) because of the non-stop action and limited subs, you get really tired. there's no other sport like it in terms of fitness demands. so often, the wriggling on the ground is to give yourself and your teammates a breather.

ShadowStorm33

April 1st, 2022 at 1:02 PM ^

the play on the field (sorry, I mean pitch)

No, it was fine the first time. They play on a field.

As an aside, I'm sure this will be unpopular with many, but it's a huge pet peeve of mine when people act is if these foreign terms are the only acceptable ones to use, when we (Americans) have an entire, perfectly good lexicon at our disposal. Soccer players play on a field, wear uniforms, post shutouts if they win X to zero, etc. I've never really understood people (who have no connection to it) using British jargon in the first place (are they trying to sound cool?), but don't look down at me for not doing so.

Also not a fan of supporter groups (Outlaws for the USMNT, Ultras at Michigan, etc.) who steal British cheers verbatim; are they so unoriginal they can't come up with their own cheers, or at least modify them so they make sense in American English?

MGlobules

April 1st, 2022 at 1:14 PM ^

No, not really. :)

I've been around soccer for 15 years now, courtesy of a soccer-playing daughter who just won our area player of the year award, and it's not that simple. People fluent in the discourse use the terms interchangeably, just as you--presumably--vary up your language instead of repeating the same words over and over. And they use them because they have become embedded enough to be used comfortably. 

It used to bother me a little at first, but you become part of the culture; using such terms becomes second nature. 

ShadowStorm33

April 1st, 2022 at 1:34 PM ^

It used to bother me a little at first, but you become part of the culture; using such terms becomes second nature. 

Maybe for some, but not for all. I guess it comes down to whether or not you think soccer culture has to be viewed through a British lens. I personally don't. I don't feel like I need to adopt British customs and language to be a soccer fan.

It's also not like other sports, where you use certain language because that's what's always been used. I'm not trying to say that since we're American, we need to rename everything; this isn't a "freedom fries" deal. As far as I'm aware, the use of these British terms is a relatively new phenomenon. I played soccer from kindergarten until high school, and I'm pretty sure I never once heard terms like pitch, kit, nil, clean sheet, service, etc. used. I don't recall hearing people use those until college at the earliest. So to me, it comes off as incredibly fake, a way to sound cool because apparently the American terms that had been used for decades aren't good enough.

P.S. Don't get me started on the asinine British singular/plural designation for teams. Michigan is singular, Wolverines are plural, full stop.

L'Carpetron Do…

April 1st, 2022 at 1:37 PM ^

I don't mind the use of certain borrowed terms but what makes me nuts is when Americans - especially American sportswriters - use the plural form of the verb to modify the collective/singular noun. "Manchester United are the best team in the Champions League tournament". No. Wrong! I'll go to my grave saying that this is grammatically incorrect!  Those same sportswriters would never write "Michigan are the best team in the NCAA tournament" so why do they do it for soccer teams? This madness has to stop.

[NOTE: just saw the above comment, beat me to it.]

mfan_in_ohio

April 1st, 2022 at 12:52 PM ^

Good spot for England. Win their group and they get the second place team from the Qatar group, basically a pot 3 team.  Hopefully the US gets group A or B.

denardogasm

April 1st, 2022 at 12:53 PM ^

Confused about the pot balls.  Do we really need the red ball?  Just put them in the first slot.  Also, does the order within the Group actually determine the order of games or is it meaningless? First time I've actually caught this live.