At least he admitted how terrible of a call it was....
the play wasn't even that close. it would have been a bad call in any situation, not just the last out of a perfect game.
Don Denkinger is scratching his head and saying "What the fuck?"
IF Joyce works the plate tomorrow, over/under on ejections: 4.5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Denkinger
Edit: shit, someone already edited it back to normal.
It said, "On June 2, 2010 umpire Jim Joyce (a.k.a. "The Disgraceful Douche") made an even worse call than Don Denkinger, so it would seem that nobody should worry about Denkinger anymore."
Outstanding, Jim! (not Joyce, that's for damn sure)
IF Joyce works the plate tomorrow, odds of Laird* conveniently missing the first high fastball delivery from Porcello: 1:5.
(*I'm guessing Laird will catch the day game after a night game caught by Avila)
With Don Dekinger's call in the 1985 World Series which cost the Cardinals the World Series over the Royals. Now i can sympathize with St Louis fans. Worst call I've ever seen!
Jim Joyce, BGSU Grad which must make a OSU fan by default. I wont forget that and neither should you.
Instant Replay. It's the 21st century and I think Cy Young would be okay with it.
Up until tonight I've been very anti reply. Now, what can you say to defend business-as-usual?
But really, MLB should determine it a perfect game. It didn’t affect the outcome of the game. Only 20 people EVER(!), dating back to 1880, have thrown a perfect game in the Majors. This is a life defining moment. This is something you tell grandkids and they tell their friends and everyone understands its significance. Go to anywhere in North or Central America, or East Asia, this feat is understood. This isn’t just a game at this point, it truly is a life defining moment for Armando. This isn’t even about me, or other Tiger fans, this is about Armando. If it is rescinded, and declared a perfect game, then if the player that got the ‘hit’ reaches an incentive at the end of the year because of this then the MLB should pay for it. This is outrageous, because this is something that should put his name in history, and his life defining moment was just taken away from him. That’s what frustrates and disappoints me the most.
There is no debate on 'should Selig do that', but can Selig do that?
the thing is, that would put an asterisk next to Galarraga's performace, maybe even more so than what we have now.
It would be there. Right now it's not even there. This wouldn't be an asterisk like steroids. At least he would still be the 21st person to ever throw a perfect game, and still give him the rights to claim the life defining moment, asterisks or not.
I think will put an asterisk next to Jim Joyce, not Galarraga. He did trow a perfect game, the call was wrong.
we need damn replay! I don't care if the game is longer. If you hire officials that can't make a 4th grade call...than take it to video you assholes!
I think Selig can still invoke a "best interests of baseball" clause here.
that was a pathetic call
his wiki page did just have this up haha
James A. Joyce III (October 3, 1955 - June 2, 2010
but Selig has to take that ball and put it in Cooperstown. Give Gallaraga and asterisk in the record books if you have to. That was a Perfect Game. Point Blank.
Who is an intern at Fox Sports Detroit- she was at the park tonight- and she just texted me saying that Joyce needed a police escort to leave the ballpark tonight.
Joyce will need a police escort to and from every Tigers game he ever does in the Motor City ever again- it is just a shame....
We still can't take anything away from Galarraga- he was fantastic tonight- 88 pitches and a CG- the first of his career- hopefully this will springboard him going forward!
"I just cost that kid a perfect game," Joyce said. "I thought he beat the throw. I was convinced he beat the throw, until I saw the replay."
About being confronted afterward: "I don't blame them a bit or anything that was said," Joyce said. "I would've said it myself if I had been Galarraga. I would've been the first person in my face, and he never said a word to me."
"It was the biggest call of my career," said Joyce, who became a full-time major league umpire in 1989.
At least he owned up to it.
H/T ESPN Recap: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300602106
After the press conference, Joyce personally apologized to Gallaraga with tears in his eyes. It was a terrible call, but we should all take our cue from Gallaraga's gracious response, and recognize that Joyce deserves credit for admiting his mistake.
I'm a scientist and we get shit wrong all the time. I'm all about being upset from this, but lets not just make things up here.
well you know who don't make no junk? GOD!
Errr, what?
That is the most ridiculous analogy I think I've ever seen on this blog.
Dude, I'll be the first to say how much it sucks to have the only perfect game most of us will ever see (if you play the odds) taken away. But comparing a MLB perfect game to the cure of cancer? Really? Finding a cure for cancer is not even close to a good example.
To be fair, one scientist has done something horribly wrong. The South Korean that claimed he cloned a human, but after months and months it came out that he did some horribly wrong and unethical things. Much much much worse than missing a call in a baseball game. And he wasn't fired on the spot. (But, he got blacklisted for ever getting funding).
There is no profession where one mistake results in termination, bouje. He owned up to it. It's all he can do - umps fuck that call up daily - just not always with a perfect game on the line.
You ever work in manufacturing?
"Oops. I welded that piece of equipment in the wrong spot."
"That piece of equipment was worth 3.5 million. You're fired."
I see it every. single. day. And I'll bet you anything Armando could turn a perfect game in his record into 3.5 million over the course of his career.
Perhaps, but it's also possible that the infamy this situation brought will translate into something as well. Furthermore, I think his show of class even after getting dongpunched shows he's a good guy and good teammate.
I'm pretty sure the guys that hold the pursestrings won't gloss over his one-hitter when it comes to contract negotiations.
An actual co-worker of mine this year made one bad move (he flipped out and punched another guy in the office) and was fired that day. No suspension, no warning, just let go. It was BS, but it can happen.
Wow, way to compare apples to road signs. If Joyce would have punched Galarraga, he would have been fired.
Read the post I was responding to before you neg.
I'm not vilifying Joyce or drawing an analogy to this situation, just noting that it is in fact possible for people to get terminated over single acts.
I didn't neg anyone.
Punching a co-worker is not a 'single act'. It's a crime. There is a difference.
Oops! I accidentally punched you in the face. Sorry, it won't happen again. I swear. Now if you will let me get back to my job.....
I'm sorry I brought this up, because this is someone I actually know and care about, but for the record, 1) he did not punch the other guy in the face; and 2) it was in the context of an heated confrontation. I did not witness it, but those who were present (including the guy he punched) felt that it was more deserving of suspension/counseling than outright dismissal.
Blowing a call is negligent, punching your co-worker is battery. That's why Joyce won't get fired and your coworker got summarily fired.
Given the great Stretchgate scandal, you'd think all of us Michigan fans would know how to distinguish between an act of negligence and a willful act of violence--you know, like a certain mass co-ed beatdown carried out at Rather Hall.
Come on people: the call sucked. When they showed the replay, I screamed at the TV and woke up my 11-month old son. But let's show some intelligence if not class.
OK, the two of you are misunderstanding me here. I'm not drawing an analogy between that situation and this call. I'm not calling for Joyce to be fired. I agree that he has handled this as well as he could. It's just that the statement above - "There is no profession where one mistake results in termination" - is not true.
And you are misunderstanding us. Punching a guy is not a mistake.
If someone punches a co-worker in the face, while on the job, they should be fired. No question, no excuses.
If a lawyer commits perjury he loses his license
If a doctor commits malpractice he can lose his license
If a police officer shoots an unarmed suspect he could be fired.
I'm not saying Jim Joyce should be fired, but there are are plenty of professions in which the "right" mistake will cost you your job.
Did I say everything should be "okay" for Joyce? There should be--and will be--professional repercussions for him.
My point is simply that sometimes you fuck up royally and the true test of your mettle is how you respond to the fuck up. I think Joyce has revealed himself to be a decent guy. No sugarcoat.
Meanwhile, Galarraga's response has been incredibly gracious and he deserves massive credit.
And considering the firestorm that was coming on him, he did exactly the right thing. And at least we got an apology this time. Did we ever get one after the Miami game? If we did, I don't remember hearing one.
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Just heard abou this, didn't catch the game today. I need to see it
Yes, you do need to see it. And no, you won't believe your eyes.
I thought he was from Toronto after that bad call but nooooo ... OHIO
James A. Joyce III (born October 3, 1955, in Toledo, Ohio) is an umpire in Major League Baseball who has worked in the American League (AL) from 1987 to 1999 and throughout both major leagues since 2000. He attended Bowling Green State University. He wears uniform number 66 (he wore uniform number 6 while in the American League). His strike call is extremely loud and enthusiastic, similar to that of now-retired umpire Bruce Froemming. Joyce has u... More
Galarraga is one classy guy. If that was me, I'm not sure if any force on Earth could prevent me from going after that ump and unleashing an unholy string of curses at him. Galarraga just smiled, shrugged his shoulders, and went back to work getting the 28th out of the game