Jason Whitlock and Jonathan Chait Discussion on Brady Hoke, Gardner, Program

Here is a radio interview between the 2 men that I found interesting, specifically as Whitlock dominated the conversation and has ties to Hoke.   The interview re: Hoke starts around 30:45. 

For TL;DTR - Chait is of the view this is a make or break year for Hoke. He believes Hoke runs an antiquated system and is stuck in the early 90s.  Big Gardner supporter, thought he was stuck on an island behind awful OL and no running game. 

Whitlock has too many views to be concise but he has been confused by the lack of development of UM players that he saw from Hoke at Ball State and SDSU.  He also said last year's MSU game was a punch to the face to Brady Hoke, and that perhaps Hoke got comfortable once he got to UM and thought with the talent he got other things would be easier.  He disagrees with Chait on Hoke's viewpoints of stuck in old school football.  Raises questions of leadership re: Gardner.

Longer version:

• Whitlock - Hoke's strength at Ball State/SDSU was player development - physically and mentally.   Would take 2 stars and make them 2.5-3s, would take 3s, make them 4s.  Lauds strength coach/program he had at those schools.
• Whitlock - I have not seen any of that Brady Hoke at UM. 
• Whitlock - Fears Brady subconsciously lost focus on development due to talent he has been able to get to Michigan.
• Whitlock - Not a big Devin Gardner fan - doesn't handle adversity well.  Small throw of Shane under the bus in throwaway comment.
• Chait - Disagree on Gardner.
• Whitlock - Due to QB situation / schedule not sure if work off the field this offseason will be reflected in increased wins but they are now doing the work necessary.
• Whitlock - After ND game last year, I texted Wojo and said they'd be lucky to win 3-4 more games next year due to both the OL and DL being horrible.
• Chait - Hoke has antiquated ideas i.e. spread vs non spread; spread makes you soft, etc.  Says OSU game proved otherwise.   Hoke wants to go back to early 90s.
• Whitlock - Disagree on those points, but can understand the view.  
• Whitlock - Mentioned last year Lewan was not a leader.  Did not get that from inside information, just from watching the team.  I was proven right despite the hate at the time I received.
• Whitlock - I've surrendered my relationship with Brady Hoke to give him distance so I can do my job.
• Whitlock - Green came in very soft last year.  Someone should have seen that and rectified it.  I saw this kid dive at a LBs feet rather than block.
• Chait - makes negative comment on Fred Jackson as RB coach in terms of development of RBs.
• Whitlock - doesn't disagree on Jackson without explicitly saying it.
• Chait - defends Gardner more due to summer camps where gurus say he would be a star.
• Whitlock - some truth in that but cites a play vs MSU where Gardner fell 1 yard short vs MSU as a signal of things you can't do.  Leaders don't do that.
• Chait - disagrees, and cites Gardner sacrificing body all year. 
• Whitlock - agrees to a degree but still thinks Gardner is lacking in key areas.  Whitlock compares Devin to Denard, and says he loved Denard's heart ... but had decision making issues.
• Rest of call is fluff and worshiping Beilein.