Indiana Snowflakes: The Defense
November 7th, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
Sucks!
November 7th, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
Terrible coaching again. No one is held accountable. I can see why players transfer
November 7th, 2020 at 3:42 PM ^
Don Brown is the worst of a terrible group of coaches. No adjustments. His players have no discipline. He can't recruit.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:59 PM ^
New young blood is needed.
Time to clean house.
November 7th, 2020 at 6:58 PM ^
Well, Don Brown did make some zone adjustments today. The announcers also stated that information.
Though eventually the Michigan DBs have to check some WRs one on one, every now and then during a game.
The starting Michigan DBs this year just really aren't ready to be starters. It's also possible that Brown just isn't real good at teaching zone schemes, since it's not what he prefers to do.
November 7th, 2020 at 7:43 PM ^
Don Brown has disparaged zone publicly and his stubbornness has led to other teams figuring him out. I think that when he came to UM he thought he would just get to run his ideal scheme, run things the way he would if he had the best athletes at his disposal. And when our d is stacked from top to bottom, such as in his first year, his defense is scary. But we are not consistently loaded at every position. We certainly have better athletes than Boston College and U Mass, but we're a tier below OSU, 'Bama, etc. and he hasn't coached us like that.
His zone adjustments don't matter because he's doing that two games in. It's too late. We lost a whole offseason of practice because he spent it having Vincent Gray practice things he lacks the athleticism to get away with in a game. I feel bad for Gray because he was put in a position to fail.
November 7th, 2020 at 10:40 PM ^
Thing is, any defensive scheme can be great if you have NFL-caliber talent where you need it. But even the best teams can't rely on that every year. That's where coaching matters. If Brown doesn't want to run zone, that's his choice, but he's got to figure something out, because he doesn't have the talent right now to do what he'd like to do.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:42 PM ^
Fire everyone.
November 7th, 2020 at 9:55 PM ^
The defensive side needs a complete makeover. I have loved Don Brown over the years but the wheels look like they've come off. The defense has two major problems. #1. Its weaknesses are easily exploited if you don't have the athletes to execute it. #2. We have a major major weakness with recruiters on that side of the ball and its exasperating problem #1. We're basically in a death spiral on that side of the ball. How Vincent Gray is a starting corner at Michigan is an indictment on this. I wish the kid all the best but he's way over his head.
I'd get rid of Brown, Nua and Zordich. Maybe offer Partridge the DC spot to come back. Hire the two best recruiters you can get to replace Nua and Zordich.
Just my thoughts.
November 7th, 2020 at 10:26 PM ^
No to Partridge. Can't coach
Yes to Durkin.
November 8th, 2020 at 9:34 AM ^
good points. Brown must go. to which i'll add: a new safety coach is also needed. brown, zordich & shoop go. i'd keep nua. Al Washington might be a target for DC or Mike Elston. Whoever you get, the D recruiting team MUST have strong SE Michigan,Ohio and East Coast (NJ south) roots.
November 8th, 2020 at 1:04 PM ^
As strictly a coach and technician I think Zordich is fantastic. Probably one of the best coaches on the entire staff. The problem is that hes an awful recruiter and nobody can make chicken soup out of chicken shit.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:42 PM ^
Fuck you Don Brown
November 7th, 2020 at 10:38 PM ^
fuck your Mom loser.
November 8th, 2020 at 5:10 AM ^
That’s not very ladylike, Glen Masons Hot Wife!
November 7th, 2020 at 3:43 PM ^
Not much to work with, aside from Dax and McGrone. The position group deficiencies are well documented. Have to completely start over here.
November 7th, 2020 at 5:11 PM ^
Need to clean house in the scouting/recruiting department too. Their ability to identify and recruit talent on defense has been awful the last several seasons. Outside of Dax, there's not a single player on that defense that's flashed any sort of talent.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:43 PM ^
Frank Pentangeli has got to go.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:06 PM ^
"They said 'Bob Shoop did this, Bob Shoop did that.' And I said, 'Yeah, sure...'"
November 7th, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
I will say, it is considerably less fun when you are rather certain that your defense will be murdered in the backfield on just about every play. Penix never had a reason NOT to pass with those cushions.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
Shawn Nua may be the worst defensive line coach in the country but IF he’s not I fully expect Hokebaugh to find the worst.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:45 PM ^
Fire Don Brown. It was one thing when we were shutting down everyone but OSU. Now we can't slow down anyone.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
Brown was shutting people down with Hoke's recruits. He's lucky Brady left him with a hell of a dline
November 7th, 2020 at 5:31 PM ^
Brady left him a lot of talent in general. On the DL it was Taco, Glasgow, Mo Hurst, Willie Henry, Wormley, Mone, Winovich...even guys like Ojemudia and Marshall.
The secondary was great too: Jourdan Lewis, Dymonte, Peppers, Jeremy Clark, Lano Hill, and Stribling.
Had a bunch of good linebackers on roster too.
Offense was solid too with guys like De'Veon, Jehu, Darboh, Butt, and a bunch of OL.
This current roster is a shell of what was left for him by Hoke.
November 7th, 2020 at 8:39 PM ^
If Gardner had had one more year of eligibility the 2015 team could have been sick.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:45 PM ^
What defense?
November 7th, 2020 at 3:45 PM ^
Penix threw for 170 yards against Penn State (including the overtime). He threw for 342 yards against us.
Rocky Lombardi today: 17/37, 227 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT.
So many people on here have defended Brown over the last 3 years despite Michigan constantly getting slaughtered by any offense with a pulse by pointing to how he does against crummy teams. Well now those teams are killing us, too.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:48 PM ^
Don ... WTF ?
November 7th, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^
Brown is the least defensible of the coaches and I'm ready to part with him at any time
November 7th, 2020 at 3:50 PM ^
I've defended Brown in the past. I'm done doing that. We aren't recruiting well enough to do what he wants to do and he won't adapt even though we still won't be great. At least when Hoke was lousy in 2014 he left the cabinet full for Harbaugh. I just don't see a lot of hope at CB or DL in the coming seasons.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:50 PM ^
The entire unit lacks confidence. Lacks toughness. Allows everyone to get extra yards after contact.
This isn’t talent
November 7th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^
Yeah. The recruiting and development look poor. They could be average if they just played 4-2-5 and pulled 4. I'd settle for average. Insanely, they went 3-3-5 after that pick and were immediately gashed for a 16 yard run. I don't know what the hell Brown is up to these days. I don't think 2 can play on standard run downs either. He was dominated in the second half.
However, the failure to adjust game plan or personnel is a fairly regular occurrence at Michigan. You have what you have. The goal is to get that unit to be average. I think they can get there with some adjustments.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:03 PM ^
Agreed. They have lost the team. When Harbaugh did not renew his contract shit went straight down hill. No wonder Dylan opted out.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^
I've defended Brown a few seasons ago, became agreed more with the criticism last year, and now it's just fucking silly. He's shit his pants and we're just waiting to see if he'll eat it.
And why the fuck did we hire Nua? Our D-line, which actually does have talent, unlike the corners, has been total crap this year. He was a fucking nobody but I'm sure he "loves footbraw" so Jimmy and Donnie had to have him.
November 7th, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^
Two quality DE’s. One quality LB. One Quality DB.
4 good players, 3 average players, 4 or so players who are not very good to awful.
Pair that with bad coaching and this is the result
November 7th, 2020 at 4:00 PM ^
Bad. The defense is bad.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:03 PM ^
We just got housed by Nick Sheridan. He scout Don Browns D and then went to work on it. Hard counts were obviously an identified weakness.
Nick “why is the water boy lined up at QB” Sheridan. I say fire Harbaugh and hire Nick. If we’re gonna stay with this Michigan man theme we’re just going to have to cycle thru them till we find a winner.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:03 PM ^
Our key players are getting injured. Plugging in next man up ain't working to well. It's a combo of Don Brown and hurt 1st string players-a perfect storm.
They get a D- at best and most will agree an F for today's game.
November 7th, 2020 at 5:39 PM ^
The defense has been bad with or without the 1st stringers. Hutchinson and Paye have largely been no shows this season.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:07 PM ^
defense sucks
November 7th, 2020 at 4:08 PM ^
What defense?
November 7th, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^
Firable performance. It was that bad. Brown feels gimmicky now.
Corners may be slow, but they also have zero ball skills. They didn’t get beat routinely today, but they very rarely made a play when it was right there to make (and often took unnecessary critical PI penalties). Wtf.
And I’ve never seen a team jump offsides as much as they did. I cannot fathom why that’s still a problem after last week. They did it like FIVE TIMES and there were a couple more where they almost did it again! Watch the ball! It’s basic shit!
pressure got better in the 2nd half, but it’s still woefully inadequate.
I guess tackling is ok. No killer instinct tho.
sigh.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
Penix hit all the holes in our secondary. We did our best to grab and hold but Penix broke through every time. Penix was big today. Being mostly serious.
And our defense BLOWS.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
Sucked in man coverage, went to zone which clearly wasn’t practiced enough. Trotting out Gray penalty after penalty, blown coverage after blown coverage was so stubborn. But that’s to be expected with ole Donny.
November 7th, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
All the complaints about the assistants point to the guy who hired them Harbaugh, it’s 2 years past time Warde are you listening?
November 7th, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
Didn't know this defense had to worry about COVID and The Clap
November 7th, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Next year is our year! Lol
November 7th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
Non existent
November 7th, 2020 at 4:23 PM ^
Once a team enters the red zone, put 6 on the board.