IF Urban gets fired, I propose a toast...

Submitted by uofmdds96 on

SO, as unlikely as I thought that Jim Harbaugh would become our head coach I also believe that it's unlikely that Urban will get fired.  I was pleasantly surprised with our new hire and celebrated by buying 100 pints of beer at Ashley's.  Since I am a hater, I am offering another night at Ashley's if Urban ceases to be the head coach of OSU forever.  I haven't figured out if it will be another 100 pints or what yet.  I guess we could consider it a wake of sorts.  Now you have one more reason to refresh this page. 

And people say the off season is boring.  CHEERS!

DTOW

August 9th, 2018 at 3:22 PM ^

They aren’t mutually exclusive. You can be happy if Urban is gone and at the same time have empathy for the victim. I don’t think he’s implying that he’s happy a women was abused. Let’s use a little bit of nuance before breaking out the pitchforks. 

evenyoubrutus

August 9th, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^

This take is becoming infuriatingly old. Just because OSU is our rival doesn't mean we aren't allowed to honestly assess their lack of moral character as a whole, and the fact that they ignore rules and ethics in a way that has given them a leg up in the sports world. Their success is directly linked to a cultural that ignores what's right so that they can win.

1464

August 9th, 2018 at 5:28 PM ^

If the impetus to offer free drinks was that a bad coach got what was coming to them, where was the free round of drinks when Rich Rod got canned?  Or Briles?  Or any number of other guys who got what was coming to them?

I can see how this seems like celebrating a rival's misfortune at the expense of the woman involved.

1464

August 9th, 2018 at 5:45 PM ^

Not sure if you're supporting or attempting to refute my stance, but that is exactly my point.  The actual exposure of an abusive or enabling person is not the root cause we celebrate here.  It is ALL about our rival losing an asset.  

Put it this way.  We have this event if Meyer gets canned for drunk driving, for word getting out that he conclusively knew about Hernandez, or that he is actually the Zodiac Killer.

We don't have this event if Bill Snyder is fired for covering up domestic abuse.

I'll give us a small benefit of the doubt.  If Meyer dies in a fire, or if he is diagnosed with a degenerative brain disorder, we're not toasted champagne glasses.  But this is mostly about a rival coach who deserves to get fired getting fired.  Not celebrating a small bit of justice in an increasingly shitty world.

1464

August 9th, 2018 at 5:57 PM ^

I'm not virtue signalling.  Just pointing out hypocrisy.  I've got all sorts of shortcomings and issues that I deal with.  I just don't really care for unfounded self righteousness.  There are plenty of public figures that could choke on a ham sandwich and die, and I would be coordinating a celebratory parade.  I love pettiness.  I just appreciate when people acknowledge it as such.

Northfielder

August 9th, 2018 at 6:59 PM ^

Spot on. No one is relishing the hell Courtney Smith endured since 2009, but IF Meyer is canned I will be happy that Karma truly is a bitch.

I HATE OSU, MSU, AND PSU.

All this crap we've seen out of them is sickening. BURN THEIR PROGRAMS DOWN.

Beat them all with character, beat them all with cruelty.

 

Longballs Dong…

August 9th, 2018 at 10:36 PM ^

my problem is that very few can actually "honestly assess" this situation.  The thread showing contrary information was blasted and people were mad that it was posted.  You are kidding yourself if the majority of people here give a shit about Courtney Smith.  They only care that OSU will get knocked down a peg.  I don't even find that opinion annoying.  I find this self righteous "I just want to see justice" opinion annoying.  All this situation has proven is that neither UM or OSU give a shit about any of the details and we both just want to win.  Period.  

Further, this makes you sound like a whiny bitch, " Their success is directly linked to a cultural that ignores what's right "  Ok.  The only reason they've ever won a game is because someone got free tattoos.  The only reason they recruit so well is that Urban lied to the big ten media about his knowledge of this incident.  Right.  I'd really like to see your "direct" link proven out.  At best you mean "indirect" and you definitely can't quantify or prove it. Further, read up about some of UM's scandals.  We are not innocent of bad people and decisions.  We've had boosters, we've given out cars to players, we've covered up crimes.  Why aren't we winning?  Are you suggesting we should allow more domestic violence and suddenly we'd win more?  

All of this sanctimonious bullshit is annoying.  Let's all just hope our team is good and let the dumpster fire in OSU play out.  

1464

August 9th, 2018 at 5:30 PM ^

So he is offering the same deal when the [insert school name here] [insert sport here] coach was canned for [insert domestic or sexual abuse here] [insert victim or victims here]?

Or is this something specially applied to the rival coach that has kicked our asses in for several years?  Seems like it may have more to do with the second.

Broken Brilliance

August 9th, 2018 at 3:17 PM ^

I will take a free beer but also harbor regret that Meyer squeaked by Michigan every year except 2015.

I want to kick his ass at least once and have him resign with his tail between his legs.

Then OSU can hire Addazio or something.

I will also drink to Courtney's bravery and the welfare of her kids.

Newton Gimmick

August 9th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^

In a strange way, losing on the field is the only kind of retribution that exists for Urban and OSU.  If they fire him, they have their excuse for losing, just like in 2011.

If they keep him, and he goes 8-4 with a 31-7 loss to U-M, i's the worst punishment for them.  It would mean they sold their souls and got nothing for it.

 

UofMfanINcolumbus

August 9th, 2018 at 3:21 PM ^

To all of these idiot ass Ohio State fans I’m around everyday who keep saying “URBAN DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG AND COURTNEY SMITH IS CRAZY.” Sorry for the caps lock, but the weasel dicks here in Columbus and get headed talking about this situation.

Blau

August 9th, 2018 at 3:27 PM ^

Urban sucks and I feel he's awful human being but maybe let this one play out and fade away. 

Now if he got caught up in the hilarious world of hookers, cocaine and pirating illegal dvds of Hello Kitty - Island Adventure, by all means shout it from the roof tops. But alas, it took a man knowingly employing a wife-beater for several years (and lying about most of his knowledge) for this situation to come up. Maybe sit this one out...

Perkis-Size Me

August 9th, 2018 at 3:32 PM ^

I can't help but feel like we'd be celebrating at the expense of someone's physical and emotional abuse. 

But I wouldn't be unhappy to see him go. He'd be continuing a proud OSU tradition of head coaches leaving the job in disgrace. 

goblueatkettering

August 9th, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^

I want Meyer to stay.  I want everyone to realize what that athletic department is all about.  I want him to get fired after Ohio State starts a slow decline and they think they can do better.  Then they realize the next coach is not good. 

I want Zach Smith to get jail time, and his ex-wife to get every penny he has left.

jmblue

August 9th, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^

Everyone won't see it that way.  The OSU faithful would interpret his staying as vindication, and worship him even more.  Most outsiders would shrug, lose interest, and forget what it was all about.  A small minority would actually care and be pissed off, and people would tell them, "That's college football for you..."

And that's why I want to see him fired, because it might be a sign that institutions want to change the toxic defend-the-program-at-all-costs culture that has set in on campuses with big-time sports.

maize-blue

August 9th, 2018 at 3:52 PM ^

I read that as of today OSU has not spoken to Zach Smith. They do not want to fire Urban and are trying to avoid any info that would force their hand to do so.

greatlakestate

August 9th, 2018 at 7:33 PM ^

What would they need to discuss with Zach Smith?  Do they need to hear his denials first hand?  Nothing he has to say has much bearing on Urban Meyer's situation. As for Zach Smith's assertion that he is going to "take down the University" that could either be true or it could be the delusional statement of a blowhard bully.  Coin flip as to which one.

greatlakestate

August 9th, 2018 at 7:35 PM ^

What would they need to discuss with Zach Smith?  Do they need to hear his denials first hand?  Nothing he has to say has much bearing on Urban Meyer's situation. As for Zach Smith's assertion that he is going to "take down the University" that could either be true or it could be the delusional statement of a blowhard bully.  Coin flip as to which one.