How do teens today view Harbaugh?
I found the Deion Sanders thread interesting and thought it could be applied to our own coach.
Prior to joining Michigan, Harbaugh was known as one of the hottest coaches in the NFL. 5 years later, 0 Big Ten Titles, 1-4 record in bowl games (lost last 4). 47-18 overall record, 72.3 win percentage.
What do today’s teenagers think of Jim? Is our quirky coach still seen as a QB guru? Top coach in all of football? Teenager views aside, what are your current thoughts on Jim?
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:22 AM ^
The teens lowkey think he's a little extra, no cap. Big yikes, don't @ me
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:26 AM ^
Is this English? I have no idea wtf this means.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:33 AM ^
I got most of it but I’m starting to lose it as I have entered my mid20s. don’t know what “no cap” means.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^
I have teenagers. If you say something that is untrue or essentially bullshit, the kids will say "cap". "No cap" would therefore be the opposite of that. If you say something that they believe to be true, the kids will say "no cap".
There was this one time where I used it in the proper context and my kids were quite pleased with me - haha!
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:42 PM ^
With their eyes
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:33 AM ^
They think he’s a little crazy, has little to no filter, and doesn’t apologize for it. Don’t try to convince him otherwise (I think I got most of it, anyway).
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:42 AM ^
I really don’t either.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^
If you know what wtf means then you know wtf this means...
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:22 PM ^
I'm with you...
I'll give a big 'THANKS' to the teen translators here!!
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^
The teens lowkey think he's a little extra, no cap. Big yikes, don't @ me
Translation: the teens view his antics as a little over the top but don't broadly publicize this opinion. Laser Wolf believes this to be true and that it is cause for concern, but Laser Wolf also does not wish to engage in conversation on the topic.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:42 PM ^
"I used to be with "it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't "it" anymore and what's "it" seems weird and scary, It'll happen to you too"
September 23rd, 2020 at 2:39 PM ^
"Flippity Floppity Floop"
September 24th, 2020 at 10:16 AM ^
Bippity boppity, give me the zoppity
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:56 AM ^
I can confirm this is the teenage language.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:24 PM ^
If teens think Harbaugh is a little but nuts, what the hell do they think about Mike Leach?
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:16 PM ^
They think he's funny, but they think Harbaugh is the weird one.
September 23rd, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^
Yeah, sounds right.
Harbaugh's shall we call them "eccentricities" have been known to wear thin.
As for Leach, he's on his 3rd team since JH has been at Michigan, I believe?
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:15 PM ^
This teen can verify this as the correct answer.
September 23rd, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^
I think I understand Ewok better than that.
September 24th, 2020 at 4:13 AM ^
This guy already been steady knowin.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:22 AM ^
*top coach in football should be one of the top coaches in football.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:23 AM ^
He’s beaten every B1G team but one. Most of them by double digits, multiple times.
Gotta beat osu and gotta win postseason games. It’s almost impossible to reach the B1G title game without beating them.
And even if maryland had beaten osu in 2018 and we did make the B1G title game and won, it would’ve been with a big “yeah, but” from everyone.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:33 AM ^
Most the board already has osu as a blowout loss unless the weather can keep it close. Beating osu is off the radar for most people.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:39 AM ^
Glad I don’t put much weight into what the defeatist attitude types think. We can win and we will win any game until proven otherwise on the field.
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:29 PM ^
Much like rutgers
September 23rd, 2020 at 2:19 PM ^
To be fair to us, since 2001, Michigan has only won twice in 19 tries. Michigan ended up on the wrong side of many heart breakers along the way (2001, 2005, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2016) with the rest mostly blow outs. Of the two wins, the 2011 was almost blown, but luckily a wide open OSU receiver was finally overthrown in a critical moment.
Can we win? Sure. but odds are that we will finish the last two decades with a 10% winning record against OSU. I think those skeptics earned it after watching the game for the last 20 years. I'm all for Harbaugh and crew proving me wrong.
September 23rd, 2020 at 9:14 PM ^
Too many people want to live in a fantasy world where Michigan and Ohio State are equivalents. The reality is they have a large talent advantage, a coaching advantage, and an overall better program advantage. And they've had it for multiple decades at this point.
The Michigan-Ohio State game is like playing a video game that uses RNG to determine your success. Yes, it's technically achievable, but you need a series of unlucky breaks to happen to your opponent and a series of good things to happen to you. One thing goes wrong and you're done.
Reality is, even if they win, it's going to be seen as a fluke instead of some tide change.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:56 AM ^
Weather? I was planning on getting Covid and then going and shamelessly making out with a few of their starters. Enough to make a difference in the game but not enough to cancel the game.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^
Teen Receivers love him. Teen DL...not so much.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:58 AM ^
"And even if maryland had beaten osu in 2018 and we did make the B1G title game and won, it would’ve been with a big “yeah, but” from everyone."
Very much agreed on that.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:25 AM ^
They think he's dreamy
September 23rd, 2020 at 3:41 PM ^
They think he's the bee's knees.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:25 AM ^
on their cell phone.
is this a trick question?
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:29 AM ^
Would your boys want to play for him, say he coached at Central Michigan?
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^
if the question is serious, it is interesting in that JH and i were friends (but not besties) in college and i have a generally very positive opinion of his coaching and how he handles players. that said, we have not returned interest from MAC schools for our 2021 son and if the avatar twins generate interest i think our response would be the same.
however, if JH really was coaching there (and i know he won't), that might be enough to tilt the scales.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^
Clearly you're under no obligation to answer, but why no interest in MAC schools? Is this education or sports based?
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:46 PM ^
fair question. the short answer is that there are a number of factors with varying amounts of importance that would go into a decision on schools for the kids. and the calculus is going to be different for each kid.
September 23rd, 2020 at 1:56 PM ^
"With their eyes" would be a more appropriate response.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:31 AM ^
I doubt your average teen cares one way or another about Harbaugh
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:36 AM ^
No one, not even teens, care about bowl games. It's all about the playoffs; hence why there's such little turnover from year to year regarding the teams that go to the playoffs.
Teens think Ohio State is a better program than Michigan. They thought that well before Harbaugh arrived. Go figure.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:43 AM ^
Your first sentence is most certainly false.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:50 AM ^
If you take it literally -- meaning absolutely nobody; zero -- then yes, it's not true. Somebody cares.
But the larger point is almost certainly true: the playoffs have eclipsed the bowl structure, and the focus is being one of the four teams in the playoff. The top talent is going to the handful of teams that seem better able to get to the playoffs -- Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and to a lesser degree, Georgia, Oklahoma, LSU (we'll see how they do sans-Burrows), and maybe Florida. There's a set of previously "elite" teams that aren't part of that discussion: Texas, USC, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State, and yes, Michigan.
I wish it weren't so, but that's the reality.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:56 AM ^
This is a great post. And if you do not live vicariously through the success of Michigan, you will enjoy them immensely and have a great sense of pride in our university and what it is as an institution. As for Harbaugh, my teen knows who he is and all that but his interests are not influenced by him.
September 23rd, 2020 at 12:21 PM ^
I would surmise that most UM football fans (even teens) care about bowl games.
September 23rd, 2020 at 3:13 PM ^
It's more that most UM football fans care about football games that Michigan plays in, where one such game is a bowl game. The volume of Michigan players that sit out bowl games before their NFL draft preparation begins should tell you the national attitude about bowl games.
September 24th, 2020 at 8:47 AM ^
Anybody who thinks that in any given season more than three or four teams in the bowls-and-polls era had a realistic chance at being declared national champion is engaging in a huge amount of historical revisionism.
And yet the vast majority of teams and their players took their bowl games in that era quite seriously, and Michigan was no exception. The 8-0-3 Michigan team that beat Washington in the '93 Rose Bowl went into that game ranked #7, and there was no chance whatsoever that they were going to be in contention for the NC when the Orange Bowl featured #1 FSU against #2 Nebraska.
That didn't seem to lessen the intensity of Michigan's performance that day.
September 23rd, 2020 at 11:52 AM ^
Beating rivals, top 10 teams, and number of B1G champs aside, Jim more than likely has Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, and countless others on speed dial. This still goes a long ways with teenagers today.