Group of Penn State football players involved in fight sending 4 Penn State fraternity members to the hospital
This offseason has already been pretty eventful for PSU with seemingly half the football team transferring, but the bad news keeps rolling today. Over the weekend a group of PSU athletes were involved in a fight with PSU fraternity members that sent 4 fraternity members to a local hospital to be treated. A video of part the fight can be seen in the tweet below:
No person has been officially charged (and as such no names officially released) but according to PSU fans the athletes involved were football players. Specifically named as members of the fight (and identifiable in the video according to PSU fans, I couldn't tell you who's who) are Yetur Gross-Matos and Tariq Castro-Fields. YGM was a 1st team All-B1G DE this past season as a junior and a potential 1st round pick next year, while TCF started 3 games at CB as a sophomore and was expected to start in 2019.
It'll be interesting to see what happens here and what charges are filed, especially since there's a video that supposedly clearly shows the involvement of the two players mentioned.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:26 PM ^
Quick note: YGM was a sophomore this past season, not a junior. My mistake.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:40 PM ^
Pfffff, amateurs! Supposa wear your ski mask with your jersey number on it.
MSU Football.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:43 PM ^
LOL now that’s funny.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:28 PM ^
James Franklin has entered the transfer portal.
February 1st, 2019 at 3:21 PM ^
....can we also put ped state into the transfer portal?
BTW, FUCK ped state and all their delusional joepa loving fans and all the paternos and field goal franklin!!!
February 1st, 2019 at 6:59 PM ^
At least you're consistent
February 3rd, 2019 at 10:42 AM ^
The Judge is correct as always. Those fans have have no comprehension as to how twisted that place is.
February 1st, 2019 at 4:28 PM ^
Literally LOL’d at that one.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:30 PM ^
Quick, somebody call Gillette. Only they can fix this.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:31 PM ^
Maybe the frat guys made fun of them for having a hyphenated name.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:44 PM ^
Maybe one of the frat guys said "Joe Pa knew"
February 1st, 2019 at 1:48 PM ^
JBB and DPJ would like a word with you.
February 1st, 2019 at 2:51 PM ^
Question: why do frat boys seem to collide with athletes this way? Had a rash of this sort of thing at another major U where my wife teaches. . . seems to be a thing. Is it mookfan entitlement, riding players when they fail to live up to the impossible standards they have for them? Do they see challenging athletes as some kind of big game hunt? Some kind of subcult ritual that I am unaware of? Somebody with some insight please. . . fill us in.
February 1st, 2019 at 3:10 PM ^
Frat boys are big fish in the little pool that they create for themselves and are often only notable based on their status within that very system. I think that they feel threatened by the fact that the presence of athletes diminishes their standing. All of the sudden nobody cares about them and those girls aren't paying any attention to them because the real "big men on campus" have arrived. I am not applying this to all fraternity members but I think it explains the issue you are talking about.
February 1st, 2019 at 3:18 PM ^
Fraternities throw the biggest parties, so they are gonna attract football players. Who knows after that. Alcohol, girls, entitlement, doesn't take much to start a fight.
February 1st, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^
Yeah, I think we can go with Occam's razor on this one.
February 1st, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^
Frat boys stick together. Football players stick together. Throw in women and alcohol, it doesn't take much to create an incident.
February 1st, 2019 at 4:41 PM ^
All it takes is one troublemaker to ask "is this dress yellow or blue" and it's go time.
February 1st, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^
When I was at Mich it was exactly the opposite of what you imagine. I was in a fraternity (see post below) and our parties were closed to ANY male who wasn't a brother. We didnt single out athletes for exclusion-we didnt let any guy in who wasnt "one of us".
Athletes, especially certain members if the football team, didnt like that and thought they should be allowed to attend just because they were football players. That's when conflict arose.
So is that considered "challenging athletes" because we didnt open the party up to someone we didnt invite?
February 1st, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
I don't think fraternities are like that at all anymore so I don't think anybody can answer your question as it pertains to present day (or even twenty years ago). I have never been in a fraternity but I have been to like 500 fraternity parties (a lot of them at Michigan) and was never once confronted or denied access because I did not belong to the fraternity. Yeah, I had to know somebody who knew somebody but that was about it.
February 1st, 2019 at 5:00 PM ^
I seem to remember hearing athletes like Mark Spindler and Charles Barkley talk about being out at bars, etc. & guys wanting to fight them.
Some guys get a few beers in them and see a pro athlete that's supposed to be kind of a bad ass (or a total bad ass) and they want to see if they got what it takes.
Liquid courage will make guys do stupid shit.
February 3rd, 2019 at 2:29 PM ^
Young guys do stupid shit. Liquid courage makes it worse.
February 1st, 2019 at 5:22 PM ^
Most are going to blame the frat but its 90% the athletes fault. The frats have the best parties so athletes go to them. Hearing a no at the door will not fly and goes down 1 of 2 ways; they are let in or fight. Its ego vs ego.
And ya frats can be full of douche bags but if you are going to them its hard to give the frat the blame.
February 2nd, 2019 at 12:17 AM ^
Probably two sets of highly inflated egos trying to prove something while hopped up on natural testosterone and some booze. In other words, it happens cause it can't not happen.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:33 PM ^
I'm actually surprised this doesn't happen more often. Lots of liquid courage at parties and I'd have to imagine being a pretty large athlete would make you more of a target for guys who have something to say about something.
Mark my words - Franklin is going to have a rough year and will be considered on the hot seat next off season. Whatever good luck/vibes they had seem to have left them completely.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:41 PM ^
My senior year (1981) Steve Smith, our starting QB, tried to crash one of my fraternity's party. I was a Sigma Chi and we are right next to the Union and sit between South & West Quad so if you're in any of those places, and the party is loud, you know it's happening.
He got stopped at the door by one of my fraternity brothers who called for me and couple other guys who were pretty big (one of which was the Big 10 heavyweight wrestling champion) to stop him from getting in because Smith was both drunk and determined to get inside.
Believe it or not Smith pulled the "do you know who I am" card with me and I said "yes, we all know exactly who you are and you're still not welcome here." It was tense for a minute or two but I think he and his buddies (didnt recognize either of them) realized a 3 against 40ish fight would go badly for them so they left.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:49 PM ^
Just this last year, Rashan Gary, Carlo Kemp, and Josh Uche walked by me on the street looking for trouble.
Brought out a couple moves. Crane kick. Big leg.
Let's just say they won't be messing with me again.
February 1st, 2019 at 2:10 PM ^
Because you're still in the hospital?
February 1st, 2019 at 2:28 PM ^
We used to always let football players into parties. I remember Henne was trying to get in and the guy working the door didn't recognize him. I walked up, said don't you know who that is, and let him in. We never had trouble with football players.
I did see a fight almost happen at Touchdowns when the EMU football team decided to party in AA and our team was there too. That could have ended poorly.
February 1st, 2019 at 4:28 PM ^
I'm not sure I'm down with naming names, but I can say that I lived in South Quad in the early 80s (that was where the football team lived then).
The team used to stay in a hotel on Friday nights before a game. Largely, I suppose to avoid having players drunk and hungover on game day Saturdays.
I can say that if Bo knew that 2 day hangovers were a thing, they might have won a few more games in those years.
February 1st, 2019 at 5:20 PM ^
I remember meeting Steve Smith in 1983. My buddy and I were walking down State Street headed to Rick's and ran into Steve who was wasted and all too happy to tell us who he was.
February 1st, 2019 at 2:24 PM ^
They have a completely pitiful schedule. I expect them to be even worse than they were this year but might end up with a better record. They seriously play nobody outside of the division worth a damn
February 1st, 2019 at 2:33 PM ^
Most (3) of Franklin's 5 PSU teams have had rather weak internal leadership (2016-2017 were the exception). This was exceptionally the case with the 2015 & 2018 teams. Trace was a leader and a tough kid but he didn't seem to have any back-up at all.
Anyway, these sort of stupid things happen on teams with weak internal leadership. The video isn't the clearest thing in the world, but head-strong folk don't even think about getting involved in drunken after-hours rumbles. Obviously.
February 1st, 2019 at 5:51 PM ^
I once saw Rolando McClain and a backup RB take on 5 frat guys. It was Rolando vs 4 and RB vs 1. 2 frat guys to the hospital. I saw Rolando ragdoll a few other folks over the years. Wild times. His nickname in HS was "boo" because everybody was scared of him.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:36 PM ^
Most frat guys need to get the shit kicked out of them anyway.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:40 PM ^
This was my initial reaction as well.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:42 PM ^
There's actually a legit defense plea in Texas... "I'm sorry your honor, but he just needed killin' "
February 1st, 2019 at 2:15 PM ^
I thought that Texas defense plea was for the frat guys?
'I'm sorry your honor, but my parents are rich and I'm used to getting my way, so I just didn't know any better...'
February 1st, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^
Hmmm,....
Compelling arguments on both sides. Think you'd have to settle this by way of bull riding competition.
February 1st, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^
The awesome full saying (paraphrased) goes... "In Texas, you WILL get hanged for stealing a horse, but you may walk free for killing a man. That's 'cause while I ain't never met a horse that needed stealing, I've met a few men that needed killing..."
February 1st, 2019 at 11:07 PM ^
One of my law school profs wrote a song parody to "The Yellow Rose of Texas," called "The Common Law of Texas." Part of it went:
A loyal son of Texas
One night went on a spree
Committing seven murders,
Some rape and burglary;
The jury sentenced him to the electric chair of course,
But the reason why they fried him
Was the bastard stole a horse.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:37 PM ^
Penn State seems like an all around pretty shitty place to be.
February 1st, 2019 at 1:51 PM ^
fans are trash, stadium is trash, coach is trash. the entire state, with the exception of philly and pittsburgh, looks like something out of deliverence
February 1st, 2019 at 1:59 PM ^
IDK man, I've been to York a number of times for work and it seems like a cool little area. Maybe not the same when you live there though.
February 1st, 2019 at 2:35 PM ^
Isn’t York, PA officially known as Shittown?
February 1st, 2019 at 3:15 PM ^
Only because Live didn't live in Scranton.
February 1st, 2019 at 3:18 PM ^
Nice, I forgot about that song!
February 1st, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
I've been to Happy Valley twice and the fans were always great towards me.
February 1st, 2019 at 6:01 PM ^
you and i encountered vastly different psu fans. some were ok, but the vast majority were trash
February 1st, 2019 at 8:41 PM ^
There's times when I actually hate Pedophile U more than the suckeyes. At least the suckeyes have done it on the field. Ped U always has excuses and it's always everybody else's fault when they screw up.