samsoccer7

July 2nd, 2014 at 11:34 AM ^

Couple interesting things:

1.  They heard Boston at 5(!!!) was gonna take Stauskas.  That's pretty impressive even if it's just a rumor b/c they believed it!  That really means they think he's that good.

2.  The GM actually thinking Parker was gonna go #1.  I read an article about Parker's workout with Cleveland and even I knew it was gonna be Wiggins (Parker basically looked bad, overweight, and people thought he tanked the workout b/c he wanted to go to the Bucks).  So I guess maybe this negates my point #1?  I don't know but I do agree with some research I could have contributed to their draft.  There's a ton of stuff they don't show, obviously, but point stands.  Also, who were those guys they brought in with their analyses?

umumum

July 2nd, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^

you'd know that they were in fact "interns" with backgrounds in stats, math and computer science from some of the most prestigious schools in the country.  And, I am sure, there are full-time people on the Kings staff who do sabermetrics--particularly, as computing is how Ranadive (the owner) became a paper billionaire.

And I agree with whoever reinforced that this clip is just a snapshot into what the Kings did in preparation.

taistreetsmyhero

July 2nd, 2014 at 2:54 PM ^

the head of analytics for the kings, rishabh desai, was a comm major from san fran state university. 

did another second of creeping and 1 of the guys in the video was a film major from dartmouth.

you'd think if these teams wanted to really push the edge of analytics they'd spend some money and get statisticians, eecs, etc.

sLideshowBob

July 2nd, 2014 at 11:42 AM ^

in that we got to see it, but what actually happened seems pretty lame.  "Nik Rocks" are you serious Clark?  All those dudes looked like they were at thier boss's kids birthday party.

Sllepy81

July 2nd, 2014 at 11:55 AM ^

up near Sacramento they've been having a ton of articles on him lately, love it. If he can put up numbers he will be appreciated big time. Hundreds of fans greeted him when he landed at sac at 11pm when he arrived.

Arlo Pear

July 2nd, 2014 at 2:50 PM ^

Watching the end of that video made me realize how much I'm going to miss watching Nik shoot the ball for Michigan every game. He is one of a few players that every time they shoot the ball I feel like it's going in because of perfect form. Ray Allen, Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf(Chris Jackson), Chris Mullens just a few that come to mind. Guys that I was surprised when they got an open look and it didn't go in.

michelin

July 2nd, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^

Also, I am sure the Kings have other "quants" on the staff.  However, the “crowdsourcing” “quants” who helped them probably did provide some cogent analyses.  Eg  An MIT grad, who currently runs a stock fund (Carlton Chin) actually wrote a book on using quantitative analysis to aid sports decisions.  To see what kind of input he provided, you really need to look at a graph from a prior you tube video. Since I do not know how to embed a picture, you can stop the video at about 19 seconds and blow it up. Alternatively, let me just explain what I saw.

One graph from Chin (Draft value as a function of pick) showed the estimated value of a draft pick for this year is greater than the average value for other years for each pick from #3 to #14.  So, if Sacto were to consider trading their #8 pick this year for another player or a draft pick in some other future years, it would on average need to get more than usual in return.  The opposite would be the case, however, if Sacto decided to trade up to the #1 or #2 pick, which this year was lower than in other years. 

There are a lot of other factors that the "quants" apparently considered, including computer simulations of ball movement and scoring averages based on whether they draft a shooter or someone more adept in assists or rebounding.  Also, some information included graphs of player contribution as a function of year after draft.  Such data could help them in deciding how to manage their roster (e.g., unload veterans so that the younger players peak together 4-5 years down the road). 

Of course, there is more that mere player development involved in managing the temporal dynamics of the roster.  eg I wonder whether the “quants” analyzed the possibility that players on a bad team would have a tougher time attracting the top free agents—as well as lose their own players to free agency.  Regrettably, that has been the recent history of Sacto.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sacramento-kings-fans-20140628-story.html

http://cowbellkingdom.com/how-the-sacramento-kings-crowdsourced-the-201…

DY

July 2nd, 2014 at 4:43 PM ^

Hits 17 of 20 at the end of the clip and his mom says "oh don't start that" when he misses for the last time. Relax, mom, he's on tthe team.