Space Coyote

May 23rd, 2010 at 10:52 AM ^

His analysis pretty much sucks and the way he predicting down to the stat line is a bit ridiculous, but I also find it funny how people around here find it unfathomable that Michigan lose to State this year.  I don’t think it’s going to happen, but let’s face it, until we see the team on the field this year there are a ton of question marks for both teams, and there actually is a chance State beats Michigan, and if you don’t see that than I feel you’re being just as irrational as a rational MSU fan.

Tater

May 23rd, 2010 at 11:35 AM ^

I don't know what an impassioned "save the freep" plea is doing in a thread about a Detroit News column, but I feel the need to respond.  Even if it's "just sports," the freep is still a media outlet that pretends to be objective but is no more objective than RCMB is.  Boycotting a media outlet over a lack of objectivity is always a responsible move in my book.  I also think it is great that a lot of people may not be actively boycotting the freep, but don't bother to buy it or click there anymore. 

Anyway, I will continue to proudly boycott the freep until they can at least adhere to minimal journalistic standards.  If anyone is  "tired" of boycotting the freep, they are welcome to exercise their opinions and go help "journalists" like Rosenpuke and [[derogatory term for Snyder]] make a living.  Just don't expect me to do the same.  And you can definitely expect me to exercise my right of free speech.

chitownblue2

May 23rd, 2010 at 1:18 PM ^

To be fair, the anti-semitism is a first, and he probably used it out of ignorance for the term,and not a genuine dislike of Jews. The insipid stupidity is par for the course, however.

PurpleStuff

May 23rd, 2010 at 2:03 PM ^

": a person who is professionally unscrupulous especially in the practice of law or politics"

I think taking the comment as anti-semitic goes too far, though it is clearly the kind of juvenile name-replacement insult that gets people docked hundreds of thousands of mgopoints.

chitownblue2

May 23rd, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^

I agree that it's not neccesarily anti-semitic, and even said that I doubt Tater meant it that way, which is why I "cautioned" the use. Some words, when applied to certain groups of people, can take on a different meaning. If I referred to a WASP as a boater, it would mean he was a yachting enthusiast. If I used the term about a recent immigrant, it would be different, no?

Tater

May 23rd, 2010 at 11:52 AM ^

He has to be some kind of a Spartan fan to see ten wins out of this schedule.  The Spartans could just as easily go 4-8 as 10-3.  I am guessing that their obvious chemistry problems keep them at 6-6.  Maybe they can get a rematch of last year's CMU game at Ford Field in December.

As for his comment that MSU will "cost RR his job," it still smacks of the wishful thinking of an MSU fan.  MSU fans are great at overrating their football team, but they still know that an RR offense with the kind of personnel to which he has access at Michigan is their worst nightmare.

I will remember his prediction at the end of November.

dahblue

May 23rd, 2010 at 12:38 PM ^

I think it's fair to say that Sparty must have developed a special sort of unity while behind bars.  How else could they go 10-3?  I know...I know...they don't even leave the State of Michigan until late October.  They don't play OSU (again).  They have epic battles against Florida Atlantic and Northern Colorado.  This is the year they show their discipline, because everyone knows that if you have problems with criminal violence on your team, it goes away after a few years of ignoring the problem.  Besides, it wasn't like they jumped people at a potluck dinner.  They were merely "involved in a dorm brawl".  As the French say, "ain't no thang".

I'm not a fan of the bash-the-media thing, but this guy writes like a drooling 12-year old fan.  I wonder if he doesn't have a poster of Tico Duckett, lying on a polar bear rug, taped to the ceiling above his bed.

TrppWlbrnID

May 23rd, 2010 at 12:55 PM ^

also forgets that since the dawn of time, or least the late 1980s, picking which game MSU loses that they should win is the hardest part.  this is easy to do, i look at UM's schedule every year and say "should win" look at the roster and say "should be better."  it is only recently that i have leared to include the "maybe" category along with wins and losses.

2009 - central, minnesota

2008 - nice job, no flops

2007 - northwestern, boston college

2006 - 8 of the last 9, including Ls to IU, MInnesota and Purdue

2005 - 6 of last 7, again with IU, Minny and PU

2004 - rutgers and hawaii

2003 - louisiana tech (seriously)

2002 - Cal at home by 24

Don

May 23rd, 2010 at 1:43 PM ^

by newpaper columnists; it will be determined by David Brandon and MSC and whatever other UM power brokers that matter. Nobody should dismiss out of hand the possibility that we could lose for a third year in a row to MSU. After the last two years (not to mention The Horror), pretty much anything is possible, unfortunately.

That being said, if we go 9-3 and kick Sparty's ass in the bargain, this knucklehead for the News will be very easy to mock and ridicule.

PurpleStuff

May 23rd, 2010 at 1:53 PM ^

I predict MSU's 2010 football team will lose to an inferior team due to a lack of focus/discipline at some point early in the season.  They will show flashes of being something more than mediocre throughout the year, but in the end will fail to beat any team with a pulse.  They will get invited to a lower tier bowl game after a roughly .500 season, where a team with more talent and better coaching will outclass them for 3.5 to 4.5 hours (depending on the length of the drawn out commercials and halftime festivities).  Spartan fans will remain satisfied with their program, however, because the fact that Dantonio failed to poop his pants against the two worst UM teams in over 40 years makes him arguably the greatest Spartan coach in that same time period.  Also, at some point before the season is out, someone on the roster will do something dumb and quite possibly get tazed.

Feel free to reprint this prediction next year, and the next year, and every year after that for eternity.  To steal a line from the immortal Dennis Green, they are who we thought they were.

Tim Waymen

May 23rd, 2010 at 3:16 PM ^

Simply put, this is the time for the Spartans to show their respect for fourth-year coach Mark Dantonio, showing they are disciplined both on and off the field.

So much for that.  I love how he adds the Big 10 record in parentheses to the "10-win season (5-3 Big Ten)" as if he knows EXACTLY how it's going to happen.  Sounds like a Sparty cheerleader to me.

BigBlue02

May 23rd, 2010 at 3:37 PM ^

I said it yesterday and I'll say it again today - MSU has had exactly three 10 win seasons in its history, with one of them coming in the years they were named the Michigan Agrucultural Aggies.  They are actually more likely to win a National Championship than they are to have a 10 win season.  They had virtually the same schedule last year and they were supposed to challenge for the B10 title.....they finished under .500.  Color me surprised if they even get to 8 wins.

blueblueblue

May 23rd, 2010 at 6:01 PM ^

Folks around here should know better than most just how meaningful it is to use history as a basis for an argument. With our history, no one would have predicted '07, '08, or '09 in terms of our records or in terms of some of the particular games we lost . I would bet that we were less likely to lose to App State and Toledo than MSU was likely to win a national championship or have a 10 win season. Look at MSU as a program now, who coaches it, its facilities, its players, look at their careers, and then make your case. History may inform an argument, but again, we all should know all too well it cannot be the basis of one. 

BigBlue02

May 24th, 2010 at 1:00 AM ^

The problem - after everything you just said, I still don't see them getting to 8 wins. History can't predict the future, but the present might be a good indicator.  Tell me why on earth this team might win 10 games?  10 wins is tough to get to....a shit defense is not the path there.  Michigan has as good a chance to get to 10 wins as the Spartans.

blueblueblue

May 24th, 2010 at 7:32 AM ^

My point was not to argue for MSU getting any amount of wins. My point was to suggest a more compelling way of predicting their season. Someone who argues for 10 wins for them based on the present is making a more compelling case than someone arguing that they can't have a 10-win season based on history. As you say, the present is a better indicator than the past - and if you still don't see them getting 8 wins based on that, then I am with you. I really do not care how their season goes, as long as they lose that one game to us. 

M-Wolverine

May 23rd, 2010 at 5:04 PM ^

Game by game, I really only disagree twice, both wins, which has them at 8-5. The schedule makes Michigan's 2011 cakewalk look like a gauntlet. I don't see them beating us at home (because all he'll will break loose if they do), and I see them losing whatever bowl game they end up at, since their record will be better than they are. Will they probably crap the bed against Illinois or someone? Yeah...but probably right after they upset Iowa or someone. They're not the current rancid Detroit Lions; they're the old win when you don't expect them, lose when you expect them to win type team. Always have been. They're just playing a line up that you expect would end in a Division 2 playoff.

Bobby Boucher

May 24th, 2010 at 5:44 AM ^

A very clever article indeed; however, missing from his prediction was how many Spartans will end up in the slammer and what color suit he'll be wearing when giving his acceptance speech at the Biggest Douch Bag in the Universe ceremonial awards. 

 

This article kind of reminds me of that illconceived post by "rational sparty fan".  Anybody remember that?

michiganfanforlife

May 24th, 2010 at 9:51 AM ^

than 90% of the prediction posts on this site. The article uses no real information to back his points.  At least even the most outlandish predictions we write on this site have statistical analysis, depth chart discussions, scheme, etc.. This guy is just reading the palm of Dantonio. What a piece of crap.