We have Michigan State and Purdue already. Maybe we could come up with a second fiddle division.
We have Michigan State and Purdue already. Maybe we could come up with a second fiddle division.
Which would you say is second fiddle in IL? In hoops I'd say NW easy, but in football, NW has been way superior to IL in the recent years.
our last BCS bowl is more recent than uga and our last final 4 appearance is more recent than UM. just saying.
This may not be true right now, but with this many rumors about GT there is a good chance it will eventually happen. Would be hilarious if they upset FSU tomorrow and announced they were leaving for the Big10. A W.Virginia blog reported something similar last night and also stated that the Big12 had offers out to FSU, Clemson, Miami and GT. It also mentioned the fact that the actual terms of the ACC's tv contract may not be what everyone thinks they are and that if they take Maryland to court over the exit fee it will come out.
Willis Ward & Gerald Ford say bring it on.
Ward was a blonde?
I would love to add Mizzou and UNC. I think they would be great fits in the big ten. Also we're going to
Expand so why not grab teams that fit. We'd get two solid to good athletic departments, a phenomenal svhool and an ok one. Also MizZou would have instant rivals (and we'd be stealing from the SEC).
Would they split Duke/UNC?
The basketball rivalry alone might be enough to preserve them in the same conference.
And about Mizzou, the SEC is the only conference competing with the Big Ten in terms of money, so you've got to wonder if they woud leave, of if they are complacent where they are at.
The inevitable 16th school, the logo wouldn't need to be changed.
BEEEEE ONEEE GEEEE! BEEEEE ONEEE GEEEE!
As someone who has lived their whole life in Atlanta, I can tell you that it's Dawg country. UGA is the team here. Yes, Ga. Tech gets a lot of press and interest, but UGA is like that default team that everyones crazy about. I've been to both their football stadium and new basketball arena. The basketball is very nice, and Tech hasn't been good as of late, but have been to the final 4 in the last 10 yrs so that's worth something. Their football situation is anoter. Combine a dangerous area around stadium with an inability to fill it up all the way and that's not good. I want to the Clemson game last year, and I saw just as much orange n purple as I did gold and navy. Bottom line: great school, ok sports teams, decent fan base, and a heck of a long way away from Big Ten country. My verdict: I like them, but don't want them in the Big Ten. I'll take Kansas though...
there are always a lot of climpsun fans but it was not half and half. and the area around campus has been hipster-fied.
Although that 20 cents in taxes is really going to grind my gears.
Well if the B1G must go to 16 teams, then I like the addition of Georgia Tech.
I would still rather be at 12 teams though...
Great, an option team in the B1G. I hope they're not in our divison.
But if GT did join the conference, it will be a ugly for them football attendance-wise. Their stadium seats 55K, but this year they had only 44K for Virginia and 42K for Duke. If GT's fanbase can't fill the stadium for longtime rivals aside from Clemson or Georgia, then good luck with Minnesota or Indiana or Wisconsin. It's bad enough when the TV cameras show 6,000 no-shows in the upper reaches of one section of Michigan Stadium, but 10,000+ empty seats in that little bandbox will look sorry as hell.
the Miami dong punch followed by the MTSU dong drone strike dampened a lot of enthusiasm. I thought the was gonna be PJ's best team and they've disappointed massively.
I'll predict we round out the conference with Hawaii because we have to get as close as possible to that massive Chinese market.
Nah, just invite the University of Beijing... Just think of that untapped recruiting ground! Instead of Slot Ninjas, we'd have Slot Samurai's.
This is all about media markets. They should just sell out and get Texas so the BIG conference (yes, BIG should be its new name) can have access to 8 of the 11 top media markets in the country.
1. New York (Rutgers)
3. Chicago (BTN HQ, NU, UIUC, alums from everywhere)
4. Philly (PSU)
5. Dallas (UT-Austin)
8. DC (Maryland)
9. Atlanta (GaTech)
10. Houston (UT-Austin)
11. Detroit (UM/MSU)
Why stop with Texas then? Why not USC or UCLA too?
and I hate it. No one's even giving lip service to anything other than money and TV markets now. The B1G is using the athletic conference as a way to just make money off TV sets. No concern for athletics or tradition or anything but money. Moneymoneymoney
I wonder if when Jim Delaney has the B1G headquarters built out of gold in 10 years and we have nothing else to spend money on if he'll still think it was all worth it
Goodbye BigTen(11), hello The B1G Coporation
Personally, I think its a great addition. GT is a great school and the campus is in a great location. That said, I do NOT look forward to playing them and their crazy offense. No thanks.
Funny, no one would have ever said that they were in a "great location" before the 1996 Olympics. That used to be a really bad part of town.
I live just south of Atlanta, so for completely selfish reasons, I would love adding them to the Big 10. And there are a ton of transplants down here - my neighbor to one side is an Illinois graduate, neighbor to the other went to Iowa, and the guy across the street went to OSU. A few doors down is a guy who went to Wisconsin.
i genuinely believe this is part of a master plan by delany to screw notre dame over.
so unless the Big Ten pushes aside one of the most basic and important criteria for membership in the conference (ND is a special case), schools that are not members of the AAU are not going to be invited into the conference.
Having said that, it's all about the money, so who the fuck knows what Delaney can persuade the conference presidents to do.
I see this counterpoint raised in every one of these threads, and I'll be the guy to respond:
Nebraska was an AAU member when they accepted the Big Ten's offer to join, and AAU membership was stricken a year later.
I know they are playing for a conference championship(but only by default)..how much longer do you think they keep him around? 9-4, 11-3, 6-7, 8-5, 6-6 and no bowl victories while at Ga Tech.
if not the seat gets warm. either way he needs a real DC (im hoping randy shannon) or he'll end up swinging from the same branch as RR so to speak.
GT would be the first time that the Big Ten has expanded and not given a damn about contiguity. There's no way to even get to Georgia via a 15th team. The shortest route has them three states away (via Indiana or Ohio->Kentucky->Tennesse->Georgia)!
I don't like it. Georgia, to me, is southern. I'm okay with being Midwest+Northeast, but this is a bit too much.
Let's add Virginia, UNC, Clemson, and GT, and go with 18 teams! The alternative is taking Louisville and Memphis/MTSU since Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vandy aren't leaving the SEC. That leaves room to pick up ND and Texas to get to a nice, round 20 - the B1G will basically have half the TVs in the US carrying BTN, and Delany can swim in his Scrooge McDuck pool of money.
BC, Clemson, Pitt and UNC come to mind. It opens up the possibility of several other neighboring schools too. Personally I like it. GT is a fine academic institution, which I think should be the main focus of expansion.
"GT is a fine academic institution, which I think should be the main focus of expansion."
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh no. The moment the B1G starts looking at Ivy League schools, I'm out.
Secondly, what should be the main focus? The strenth of their football program? 99.9% of students go to college for the degree not the football tickets.
In all seriousness, this move is obviously about getting into the Atlanta market and more importantly establishing a presence in the South. I knew this would be coming, but I never would've thought it would be this quick. I expected a few years at 14 before we super expanded to 16.
Rumor out there that it's Georgia Tech and Syracuse.
I caveat that I have heard nothing one way or another from the SU side.
Atlanta is a great town, frequent and cheap flights from Detroit (Northwest/Delta hub to hub). I hope they're in our division. Great school, huge market.
Look at how Texas A&M jumped out from under UT's shadow with just one year in the SEC. GT will be fine in football. And this will absolutely help M recruiting in one of the most talent rich states in the country.
is coming to Atlanta. Would be a great side-trip for people when Michigan plays their every 15 year "conference matchup" versus GT in Atlanta.
Would love to see Clemson join.
Pretty decent club lacrosse team in a region with precious few D1 squads. They might be a prime candidate to jump to D1, especially with Big Ten $$$.
will probably bolt to the SEC and the ACC will be dead. ND will have to choose B1G or BIG 12 or risk being left with nothing.
Obviously FSU is the catch of that conference, but that was never going to happen because of geography. But is Clemson really better than the teams we got? Sure, they've been good at football recently, but not great, and they bring nothing else to the table in terms of basketball, a good market, academics, etc.
FSU and Clemson aren't going to the SEC. There's an agreement between the UF, USCe, and UGA presidents to block any of those schools' instate compadres from joining, and three is all it takes to block a new member.
PLEASE let it be true..I live in ATLANTA!!!!
Jim Delaney is looking to add Oxford as the 16th school. This will add the London television market as well as the rest of UK. Who cares if they will be playing Rugby? Its all about the $.
They do make sense Academically though.