Fuck You State
FUCK YOU STATE
I am so fucking filled with rage. Yeah were losing and we suck big donkey dick so lets go decapitate steve kampfer. wtf!!!!! i have lost the little to no respect i have ever had for michigan state. I dont even know what to say. FUCK YOU STATEEEEEEEEEEE
January 24th, 2009 at 10:42 PM ^
what exactly happened. i just looked up and kampfer was on the ice
January 24th, 2009 at 10:47 PM ^
kampfer layed a state guy out and was then hit from behind and slashed in the neck while he was down.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:21 PM ^
Just to clarify it for others, Kampfer's hit was clean. MSU took cheap shots to retaliate against a clean hit.
January 25th, 2009 at 9:06 AM ^
State can always recruit talent in hockey but obviously they neglected to recruit brains with this bunch. Goons and savages. Of course they probably do ok in the Moo U classrooms. Fuck State I say. Hopefully our bball squad can get some revenge for Kampfer. I hope the guy's alright.
January 24th, 2009 at 10:52 PM ^
The big, no-talent goon Conboy from State took a cheap shot at Kampfer from behind after Kampfer delivered a good, clean open-ice hit on another Spartan (I think Tropp). They should suspend that jackass the rest of the season. It look like Conboy grabbed/punched Kampfer to the head/neck area from behind - Kampfer didn't see it coming. It ended up resulting in a 5-on-3 power play (whoop-dee-doo) when we're up by 2 with under a minute remaining. It was like being down by 2 TDs with a under a minute left in the game and the other team at your one yard line, so you jump offsides and try to decapitate the QB on the other team because it only costs you a half-yard penalty and you're already going to lose anyway. Then to top it off, while we're on the power play, another Sparty slams a cross check into Wohlberg in front of the net, leading to yet another penalty that doesn't matter. Seems like when they knew they were going to lose they figured, "Let's just get all the cheap shots we can." Michigan did a pretty good job not retaliating so we don't lose anyone for next weekend, but Timmy Miller got thrown out of the handshake line at the end, and I didn't see what for or who he was jawing with.
January 24th, 2009 at 10:49 PM ^
Kampfer made a good hit and then he got attacked by another player. Then while he was down the guy he hit slashed him in the head, Marty McSorley style. Such fucking bullshit. State is a piece of shit, Fuck them
Edit: Kampfer hit Tropp, which was the player that slashed him in the head while he was down. He got ejected and the announcers said he got 5 minutes and 2 games suspension
January 24th, 2009 at 10:51 PM ^
that was what the general thought was in the crowd where i was. im glad that POS got a suspension. hopefully kampfer is fine
January 24th, 2009 at 10:55 PM ^
Thanks for clarifying that - I wondered what Tropp did. He's as big a jackass as Conboy.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:02 PM ^
Conboy got a penalty too for being a complete fucking prick. He Todd Bertuzzi(ed) Kampfer before Tropp slashed him in the head. I guess State gets mad when the Big Brother and the superior university sweeps them for a year.
Whens the last time they beat us? I can't seem to remember
January 24th, 2009 at 11:02 PM ^
Kampfer made a big open ice hit on a State player, and was chased down from behind, tripped, and then a State player started swatting at his head.
Here's the problem: the State player will get a 1-2 game suspension and it will all go away. Maybe (hopefully) Kampfer comes back next game. But I've seen enough Steve Moore's to know what CAN happen from such behavior.
Unfortunately, hockey leagues never seem to want to take a stance on this. There is a difference between physicality and violence. Hot headed violence has no spot in this sport. If I'm in charge, that State player is done for at least the year. You have to set an example before someone gets seriously hurt. This shit happens every time we play State. The league needs to take a hard stance. People have been hurt before and will continue to get hurt.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:05 PM ^
I promise you I was never more filled with rage than that moment. It was the dirtiest, cheapest thing I ever saw. I spit on everyone in front of me with the profanities flying out of my mouth.
I hope Kampfer is ok.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:10 PM ^
i hope that will be included in the mgoblue highlight. im fairly certain it wont though.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:25 PM ^
i hope kampfer is ok.
conboy...what a soar fuckin loser piece of shit. can't beat em so take every cheap shot you can from behind. during garbage time. i hope he's real proud of himself.
also poorly ref'd game in my opinion. feel like the refs missed a ton of hooking calls.
btw was that comley talking trash during the handshakes?
state is classless. utterly classless.
January 25th, 2009 at 9:23 AM ^
Kind of like how we were utterly classless a few years ago?
Then three seasons ago, it was a borderline cheap shot by the “manchild,” Jack Johnson of Michigan, that almost killed MSU’s Tyler Howells, who stands about eight inches shorter and is 50 pounds lighter than Johnson.
http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,16200/RivalriesRenewed.html
My alma mater is clearly classless. Sweeping generalizations are fun.
January 25th, 2009 at 9:44 AM ^
Sweeping generalizations are silly and you have a point, BUT there was NOTHING "borderline" about what happened last night.
January 25th, 2009 at 10:29 AM ^
You haven't been fooling anyone.
January 25th, 2009 at 12:07 PM ^
Hi Sparty. How are you enjoying this hockey season?
January 25th, 2009 at 1:12 PM ^
a fucking loser. How's that for a sweeping generalization?
January 24th, 2009 at 11:27 PM ^
stupid FSN - Detroit didn't have a camera shot of the goonery. All I saw on the replay was the initial collision where Kampfer hit the kid, then two state players close in on Kampfer.... then, the camera flashes away. Wish I could have seen it for myself.
Losing Kampfer for any length would be a bitch.
That aside, couldn't help but notice that Burlon has a rude shot. The man has power.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:50 PM ^
That was "Slap Shot" goonery at its finest. I think Comley was embarrassed at the thug behavior displayed by his team. The only sad part is they kicked Conboy out of the game. It would have been great to see Miller or Llewellyn rip his f'n head off in the handshake!
January 24th, 2009 at 11:54 PM ^
from MLive.com:
"After the game, Kampfer was seen being transported via gurney to an ambulance with a brace around his neck. No further details on Kampfer were available. Berenson refused to comment, saying he didn't see the play unfold.
Meanwhile, just minutes earlier outside of Michigan State's locker room at the opposite end of Yost Ice Arena, a man attempted to attack Michigan State coach Rick Comley, who was heard yelling "I want a cop and I want security right now."
No other details were available regarding that incident, including whether or not the man physically touched Comley.
Comley said he apologized to Berenson after the game and promised that he'd "take care of" his players, implying he'd levy his own disciplinary measures."
January 25th, 2009 at 12:13 AM ^
wowww
edit: link? couldnt find it
edit edit: found it http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/other/index.ssf/2009/01/michigan_downs_…
January 25th, 2009 at 12:38 AM ^
Same post listed by bluetell at the 0:41 mark
January 24th, 2009 at 11:58 PM ^
went the the hoops game tonight, so I can't comment on the hockey extracurriculars.
Just wanted to relay my inner giddiness in seeing a post titled "Fuck you State".
January 25th, 2009 at 12:07 AM ^
State's hockey program seems to be spiraling out of Comley's control
January 25th, 2009 at 12:24 AM ^
rivals has a good article on the kampfer assault
http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=904258
January 25th, 2009 at 12:42 AM ^
So, collective agreement that the Michigan fan who went after the State players is also an idiot?
January 25th, 2009 at 12:47 AM ^
Seconded.
January 25th, 2009 at 9:07 AM ^
I second this second.
January 25th, 2009 at 12:48 AM ^
yes. though the more i learn about what happened to kampfer, the more i sympathize
January 25th, 2009 at 2:38 PM ^
reports that that was Kampfer's dad... I would be a little pissed if that was my kid on the receiving end of that crap.
January 25th, 2009 at 2:51 PM ^
If that in fact was his dad, then it's a little different. I'm not saying that's the best way to respond, but to watch that happen to your son . . . I can't guarantee that I wouldn't fly off the handle, too. I don't know if any of us could.
January 25th, 2009 at 1:02 AM ^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYUWFyHqYog
Video, including the Kampfer hit (although not a great view).
The two MSU kids, should, as a rule, be out for at least as long as Kampfer is, plus more. You do something that earns a penalty and injures another player = you can't play until he can.
January 25th, 2009 at 1:05 AM ^
This should definitely be a rule in all sports for applied cheap shots.
January 25th, 2009 at 1:20 AM ^
EDIT: Disregard this post.
January 25th, 2009 at 1:19 AM ^
EDIT: Disregard this post.
January 25th, 2009 at 1:23 AM ^
Absolutely unreal. The state of State hockey is absurd. Comley aught to get fired, State should get put on probation, those two should get kicked out of college hockey. That has no place whatsoever in the game of hockey. You want to get someone, you challenge them to a fight. That's how the game is played.
The only other time I've seen something as unimaginable as this was Todd Bertuzzi taking down Steve Moore, and Bertuzzi was suspended the rest of the year. At the very minimum, that should be enforced by the NCAA and the CCHA.
I heard that the person who tried to pick a fight with Comley was Kampfer's father. Anyone else hear that or know anything about it?
January 25th, 2009 at 1:41 AM ^
i think if it was kampfer's dad i would sympathize a lot more toward him storming the lockerroom
January 25th, 2009 at 1:44 AM ^
He pushed past me and I was in the front row of the student section behind the benches. He was fatherly age and given where I was sitting probably coming from the family section. I assumed it was Kampfer's father because he was irate in a way that it looked like a random fan could never be.
Maybe, it was a stupid move, but if he was Kampfer's father, and considering what Steve Kampfer has gone through, I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing if it had been my kid lying there motionless. Parents are very protective of their children and what he just saw was a border-line felony.
January 25th, 2009 at 3:38 AM ^
That was definitely his father that pushed past you, I was sitting in the next row up next to the giant. I'm fairly certain that he was just rushing down to ice level to check on Steve.
January 25th, 2009 at 1:48 AM ^
You must not watch too much hockey. This has been a problem in the NHL for decades, and it will continue to be as long as they condone violence (note: not physicality). The Bertuzzi/Moore incident was big, but there have been tons of others. Some examples:
1.) McSorely Slashes Brashear's Face - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT8mM4pDpBc&feature=related
2.) Simon Steps on Ruutu - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hKeVb_G-PI&feature=related
3.) Simon (how is this guy still playing?) slashes Hollweg's Face - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLmon0XoH3I
4.) Boulerice crosscheck to Kesler's Head - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Y3x0mr_Ik
5.) Domi Elbows Neidermeyer in the Face (scroll to about 2:20 for the replay) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWI5tLWi6mM
There are plenty more out there. Lemieux said it best back in '92..."the NHL is a garage league". College hockey sure as hell never get to that point.
January 25th, 2009 at 2:07 AM ^
How exactly does the NHL condone that kind of violence? And in the new NHL, the Domis and McSorley's of the world would have trouble finding a roster spot
January 25th, 2009 at 2:16 AM ^
Because Bertuzzi got a 20 game suspension while Moore is out for good. Simon got 25 and 30 game suspensions for his hot-headedness. McSorely was awarded 23. Boulerice got 25 and Domi got 10.
Those are petty in comparison to the possible consequences of their victims. The NHL has done a shitty job of punishing these players. They don't want to take a hardball stance for some reason. Most of the guys above should be suspended from the league.
The NHL hasn't done that, and really hasn't made any efforts towards moving that way.
January 25th, 2009 at 2:42 AM ^
Ms. Tier?
January 25th, 2009 at 2:35 AM ^
No one condones these. The NHL is violent. So is football, rugby, MMA, and others. If you are upset that the league is somewhat lax on voluntary 1-on-1 square-offs, maybe competitive adult hockey isn't your thing.
January 25th, 2009 at 3:08 AM ^
The NHL should be physical, not violent. There is a difference.
Also, ask Steve Moore if the incident was a "voluntary" 1 on 1 square off. The league should NOT be lax on the Bertuzzi's of the world. Nor should the CCHA.
January 25th, 2009 at 3:41 AM ^
Although I think you are splitting hairs with the physical/violent angle, we don't totally disagree here. My question is, what would be the appropriate punishment? Should the kid from State get suspended for the rest of the year? Should his college hockey career be over?
Based on your posts, I'm guessing you want Bertuzzi out of the league. What if Moore got right back up? Should he still be out of the league? It's precarious to punish based on results, and challenging to punish based on the degree of intent to injure. There may be a good solution to this, however, bitching probably isn't it.
January 25th, 2009 at 11:00 AM ^
I just think the NHL needs to take a hard line stance on these incidents. We can allow this to happen, suspending players for a dozen or so games, and hope that guys turn out like Brashear and are back in the lineup in a few weeks. But for every incident like that, there is a Steve Moore who is done. Yeah, you might have to ban a guy from the NHL, but don't you think some of these guys would think differently if they knew their career might be over because of their actions?
It would be unfortunate for a guy to make one mistake and have it all end, but these are adults who are responsible for their actions. Start permanent suspensions on few players for this and I bet you see a decrease in the amounts of these incidents.
In regards to the state players, if I was in charge they'd be done for the rest of the year. If this type of thing happened off the ice a la Mike Milano they'd probably be kicked off the team with the possibility of criminal charges. The ice shouldn't change that. It isn't a free pass.
Anyway, I didn't mean to start an argument with you. I agree that it is a tough situation. I just wish someone would firmly put their hand down to stop it. I'd rather have the CCHA end Tropp/Conboy's careers than allow them to play and possibly end the careers of guys like Kampfer.
January 25th, 2009 at 3:57 AM ^
Don't pick a fight on the watching hockey thing - believe me, I've watched (and played) plenty of it.
On to the cheap-shottery.
Three of those incidents were attacks with the stick. The incident tonight, as well as with Bertuzzi-Moore, was an attack using the hands. The stick is an awesome piece of weaponry, but it is also impersonal. Slashes happen. Attacking with the hands from behind is very personal and happens very rarely.
Simon stepping on Ruutu: definitely awful. Could have hurt him badly, but most of the body is well equipped enough to defend from a skate, especially where Simon stepped on Ruutu's boot. Not to sugar coat it. Bad incident.
Tie Domi is a dirty player. No doubt about that. His elbow on Niedermayer was awful and deserved indefinite suspension. However, because the hit was from the front, Niedermayer had the chance to defend himself in some way. He obviously didn't because Domi had no business putting his elbow in there, but Niedermayer could have had his head up. Kampfer, like Moore, was never given that opportunity because the attack was from behind.
The college game is very intense and the Michigan - Michigan State rivalry is a great one. The game often gets very physical, but I've never seen an incident like this in college hockey.
January 25th, 2009 at 11:11 AM ^
I didn't mean to question your hockey knowledge. My apologies.
I guess I'm of the belief that what McSorely and Co did with their sticks was a hell of a lot more than "slashing".
What I don't think the NHL should be using in determining punishment is "what happened to the victim". A deed should be punished because of the action/intent, not the outcome. Because for every Brashear (who was in the lineup a week or two later I believe), there is a Steve Moore who is done playing hockey.
Also, I would disagree that a hit from the front can be defended. Look at the Chris Simon/Hollweg slash to the face again. It was from the front, but when you're not expecting it, it's hard as hell to defend against it. These players shouldn't EXPECT that their opponents are going to take cheap shots. When I play hockey and I'm skating by a guy and neither of us have the puck, I don't expect him to swat me across the face with his stick. I'm not planning for it, nor should I be.
Anyway, I don't think "ability to defend" should weigh in on whether it was alright to do or not. Are crimes more acceptable when the victim has a chance to defend him/herself?
Again, I wasn't trying to question your hockey knowledge/passion. I'd just rather see the league be more strict and make an example out of some of these thugs. Until then, I believe people will continue to do it.