September 12th, 2021 at 11:41 AM ^
And people complaining about curb stomping a good pac 12 D, in prime time, on national TV, in front of 40+ recruits. Some people just can’t be happy.
September 12th, 2021 at 11:56 AM ^
Michigan curb stomped a much better ND team in 2019 with a similar game plan. How did the rest of the season go?
We are happy M won the game. But we also realize that Michigan has not shown that they are even close to being a good enough team to win anything of importance. This is very frustrating for all the reasons you’ve probably heard.
September 12th, 2021 at 11:59 AM ^
And many others of us realize that incessant whining and bitching does not make one a more virtuous fan.
Seriously. On these boards anymore we have people equating negativity and whining with making someone a better fan; that if we don’t join in with you we’re somehow of lower standards.
No one hates Michigan like Michigan fans.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:16 PM ^
It’s the new fad tearing down things instead of building them up. Because if you do that your intelligent I guess.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:31 PM ^
There aren't any alternatives that these people wouldn't have been upset by. They're just toxic and should step away from whatever's driving them to be like this.
September 12th, 2021 at 2:16 PM ^
This is akin to saying people who criticize the government hate America. Thank
September 12th, 2021 at 2:24 PM ^
Why does everything got to be about politics, government, and such? Get out of your head man it’s nice out here.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^
If I recall the defense was the issue not the offense in that Ohio game
September 12th, 2021 at 12:16 PM ^
If I recall the defense was the issue not the offense in that Ohio game
September 12th, 2021 at 4:52 PM ^
Offense dropped three passes leading to OSU ball near mid-field and a special teams blocked punt for a TD. The offense was a significant problem.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:19 PM ^
They threw the ball all over the field against MSU in 2019.
How’d the rest of that month go?
September 12th, 2021 at 12:49 PM ^
But we also realize that Michigan has not shown that they are even close to being a good enough team to win anything of importance.
Love the Royal We here!
Michigan will not show that they are even close to being good enough to win things of importance when they do win things of importance. What you (all) don't understand is that you are getting frustrated by your own expectations, not the team. You are creating artificial goals and then whining that the team isn't good enough to meet them.
Enjoy each sandwich. When the team actually loses a game of importance is when you can start to legitimately claim to be frustrated.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:11 PM ^
It’s healthy to discuss what might concern you, it’s unhealthy to make absolute statements which have a lack of evidence and that seem like panic.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:42 PM ^
Why are you even watching ?
September 12th, 2021 at 4:29 PM ^
wait who's we?
September 12th, 2021 at 4:31 PM ^
Making this call after 2 games?
September 12th, 2021 at 12:02 PM ^
We had a grand total of 17 points going into the fourth quarter, and 10 points going into half. Final score doesn't really tell the whole story if looking at the stats.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:06 PM ^
And scored 67 against Illinois and people bitched about that too.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:20 PM ^
I'll accept the paving.
This has worked for Wisconsin for two generations.
September 12th, 2021 at 2:58 PM ^
Worked how? They've won the conference three times in those two decades. They've been to the conference title game a five times and have lost 4 times, including a 59-0 pantsing by OSU and some relatively close closes. I mean, I guess it's worked in that they have had some bowl wins less (or no? I'm too lazy to look it up) losing/bad seasons, but if you can get better offensive talent, I see no reason why you don't get it and utilize it.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:26 PM ^
Yeah because we weren't good there either, the defense sucked lol. Things are not just black and white.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^
bamf_16,
What was your expectation for the passing game last night? And what was your hope for it?
Why does it bother you when people say, “I’m happy with the win but I wish this team consistently showed they are better than they appear to be now?”
I reiterate I’m happy with the win. In the few pass attempts Cade had yesterday I expected to see fewer passes thrown as far behind the target as they were. I expected him to look a bit more comfortable in finding soft spots in the W coverage, similar to what the FCS QB succeeded in doing last week. I am not arguing for Cade to drop back 30 times last night. But I am mostly concerned about the times he did pass.
Per the FFFF this week the Washington D has NFL level corners but just-a-guy safeties and linebackers, with one LB reaching “Dude” status. I would expect a Michigan offense to handle that comfortably, and look competent passing against it most of the 15 times they do. My hope was that they might even complete one or two over the NFL corners but that was just a hope, not an expectation.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:57 PM ^
I’ve posted a couple other places that in the first half, I was wishing they’d open it up a bit more, maybe throw some passes on first down, which I’m always a fan of doing. Saw some openings down the seam to a slot or TE, thought they could have done more with that.
But towards the end of the second quarter, I’d posted something in the game thread like they didn’t need to throw another pass the rest of the night. Once it was obvious that the Washington defense couldn’t stop it and the pass wasn’t needed to set up the run, there was no reason to deviate from what was working.
Was it something wrong with McNamara? No one here knows. Was it a rhythm thing? Tough to say. Sometimes tough for some QBs (especially a guy in his third career start) to be consistent with such a lopsided run/pass ratio.
The swing passes just aren’t working; it seemed the smallish WRs struggled with blocking.
No one’s bothered with your measured approach. The doomsday-ers who think somehow last night was indicative of a 4 loss season or think those of us not losing our minds today somehow have lower expectations for the team or think there’s something to be ridiculed are insufferable. Basically it’s a style issue. Throw for 340, run for 50, win 31-10 people are happy. Run for 340, throw for 50, win 31-10 and people are upset.
For the TL;DR crowd… unhappy with the execution in the passing game in the first half, don’t think they needed to deviate from the run to try to fix/develop the passing game, don’t think it means a damn thing moving forward. Last night was not a scrimmage to fix things. It was a game where you do what works & take the 3 TD win.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:14 PM ^
Well they did complete one on the nfl corner 33 yards to 6 Johnson (Cheshire in the house).
September 12th, 2021 at 12:25 PM ^
"You" didn't do anything except probably fill the game thread with endless complaints. I'm sure the team is disappointed that they so personally failed you.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:27 PM ^
Tell that to all the people booing at the game yesterday too.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:14 PM ^
People booed? They need help then
September 12th, 2021 at 1:44 PM ^
Dis we have more than Washington ?
September 12th, 2021 at 5:47 PM ^
You sound like fun at parties.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:02 PM ^
Offensively, the team’s strengths are the OL run blocking and quite a stable of running backs who can run physically between the tackles and break long runs.
Offensively, the team’s weaknesses (or at the very least question marks) are a QB with 3 career starts and a WR crew down its best player.
Defensively, the team is strong up front and blitzing from the second level.
Defensively, the team’s weaknesses (or at the very least question marks) are the secondary and a propensity the last 4 season to give up big plays over the top.
So Michigan plays the entirety of the game to its strengths on both sides of the ball, dictates the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, and makes its weaknesses almost complete non-issues in a 3 touchdown win.
And last night and still today people ridicule, criticize, and complain about the coaching.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^
bUt tHe PaSs GAme sUCked
September 12th, 2021 at 3:30 PM ^
What was John Bacon fond of saying? "Michigan fans aren't fans so much as they are opera critics?"
September 12th, 2021 at 11:41 AM ^
That FSU loss was ridiculous. If you watch the last play, look at No. 10 casually jogging and even stopping as his buddies lose contain. Embarrassing. My father-in-law was there and he is cranky. I’d be livid.
September 12th, 2021 at 11:53 AM ^
I don't think I've seen a more disinterested, unmotivated team than FSU the last few years. It seems like their guys are just mailing it in whenever they come across any adversity at all.
September 12th, 2021 at 11:43 AM ^
Florida State isn’t good and only hung with Notre Dame because ND is a decent team and it was at FSU in a raucous environment. Hell, if Milton played all game they might have beat ND. Colorado came close to beating a top 5 TX A&M. Notre Dame got lucky and ref gifted into that close victory. I agree it’s gonna be a crazy season and so far only Alabama really stands out to me.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:06 PM ^
I saw a good chunk of that Colorado/Texas A&M game.
The buffs are unranked, yet they had complete control of the first half. Would have had a 14-0 lead if not for being stuffed at the 1 yard line in the 2nd quarter.
A&M has no business being ranked #5.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^
Ohio State isn’t good because they lost to Oregon.
Clemson isn’t good; they didn’t score against Georgia.
Oklahoma isn’t good. They barely beat Tulane.
PSU and Wisconsin bored the whole country last Saturday.
Texas A&M isn’t good; they barely beat Colorado.
Georgia’s offense didn’t score against Clemson.
ND isn’t good.
Iowa and Iowa state both aren’t good. They either had under 200 yards or turned the ball over.
So basically we only need to worry if UM plays Alabama.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^
If you’ve watched football this year, and it’s early still, all anyone has to worry about is Alabama. They are head and shoulders about everyone else right now. There are a lot of pretty good teams out there. Some of them you mentioned fall in that category, Bama is the only one that has looked very good.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:18 PM ^
We worry when we play ANYONE. At least, I do.
But it was already kind of proven last week that Bama should really be ranked 1-5. Because nobody is even close to them.
September 12th, 2021 at 1:05 PM ^
I don’t think ND is that good. Toledo was winning that game until about a minute left IIRC.
September 12th, 2021 at 3:54 PM ^
Toledo held the lead for 26 seconds towards the end of the game.
September 12th, 2021 at 11:44 AM ^
Not to mention that Texas got destroyed by Arkansas, Miami barely beat App. St., Nebraska has a loss to an awful Illinois team, and USC lost badly to 0-1 Stanford.
But Michigan didn’t pass enough!
September 12th, 2021 at 12:24 PM ^
Upvoted.
The Michigan Difference (tm)
September 12th, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^
Ha, well said Cam.
September 12th, 2021 at 11:48 AM ^
There is more to the story. FSU lost in epic fashion.
The DC needs to take a long look in the mirror.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:01 PM ^
It’s not just that they gave up the catch. The dude caught it at the 20 with two FSU defenders in the near vicinity, and neither of them came close to stopping him.
That and they weren’t even in prevent D! The HC said that because JSU still had a timeout left, they wanted the defense that would stop them from getting in FG range, but there was only 6 seconds on the clock!
September 12th, 2021 at 12:18 PM ^
When does the flag apology come?
September 12th, 2021 at 2:02 PM ^
Ahhh, so that’s what it would look like if Colorado PTSD made a baby with App St PTSD
September 12th, 2021 at 3:38 PM ^
and those players in the secondary all need their scholarships pulled.
September 12th, 2021 at 12:00 PM ^
Appalachian State almost beat Miami (YTM)