Friday Penn State Thread (See Moderator Sticky - Put all PSU information here)
I know people are peeved about this, and I'm sorry. For now, this thread should serve as the home for:
- All "Sandusky/Paterno/McQueary/Curley should be ashamed" opinion pieces
- All predictions
- All conspiracy theories
- All rumors
- All interviews or other public figure reactions
New, actual news (McQueary fired, PSU/Nebraska game cancelled or moved, etc.) can be posted as its own thread.
Also, a reminder that while pedophilia jokes are never really "acceptable," for the foreseeable future they are worth a one- to two-week trip to Deepest, Darkest Bolivian.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:03 AM ^
Re: McQueary; like most of this story, I am starting to think that there is far more to his side of the story. It doesn't make sense to me that he hasn't been fired yet but JoePa, the AD, School Prez, finance guy, all got fired. With all of the cover-up issues and the timeline of activities prior to McQueary witnessing those alledged acts, it just doesn't add up that he is still being retained by PSU but nobody else is.
More HAS to come from this story but right now, I just get the impression that McQueary may have done more than what is publicly known right now and knows quite a bit, and that could be the reason he's still around. We'll see...
November 11th, 2011 at 11:42 AM ^
McQueary may have been the mole. There is a lot more to come than what has been exposed. Perhaps that blowhard Mark Madden was legit afterall, or I have seen too many episodes of Law and Order.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:53 AM ^
My wife and I are big fans of "L&O" and we're convinced that this horrible story will find its way before long into an episode (assuming it stays on the air long enough...).
November 11th, 2011 at 12:24 PM ^
L&O: Criminal Intent is done.
I'd love to see Bobby Goren take at run at perp Sandusky in the interrogation room while the Lt. and ADA watch from behind the two-way mirror.
November 11th, 2011 at 1:07 PM ^
I would think this is more of an SVU situation for Stabler to take care of.
November 11th, 2011 at 1:53 PM ^
November 11th, 2011 at 1:08 PM ^
This would definitely be featured on SVU rather than CI. I don't know who is left on the show, but it'd be awesome if Ice-T got a crack at him.
November 11th, 2011 at 12:23 PM ^
I agree that McQueary must have negotiated immunity from prosecution -- or there's more he knows.
McQueary wasn't mentioned by name in the 23-page grand jury presentment, only as a "28-year-old graduate assistant."
Why did the grand jury try to protect his identity?
The answer to that question might explain why McQueary wasn't fired, and why Tom Bradley didn't hesitate to say McQueary would coach on Saturday (before the death threats, anyway).
November 11th, 2011 at 6:04 PM ^
Had he just kept it to himself, then McQueary would be in the clear.
He did the partially right thing by bringing it to JoePa.
Unlike, JoePa, McQueary was a 23 yr old GA, not the football program itself like JoePa.
Do you fire the low guy on the totem pole for speaking up initially, but not following through further? I think that just sends the message to other low level employees to keep their mouths shut at all times.
That's not good enough for the leader of the program.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:57 AM ^
I feel like these threads are getting old, the only thing we'll hear about is rioting and other junk like that, no more 'big' news, at least for the next few days.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:49 AM ^
Very old.
What more can possibly be said which already has? Nothing. Ugh! Now we have a "Friday" thread.
Will we have a "Saturday" thread tomorrow to post the same shit too?
It's like watching CNN and FOX after a plane crash or something... people keep saying the same shit over and over and over and over again just to fill up time.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:45 AM ^
and the allegations are so contrary to decent human behavior that people need to talk about it, and a forum of like minded individuals might be just as good a place as any?
No likey? No clicky! It's very simple
November 11th, 2011 at 11:48 AM ^
What more can possibly be said which already has?
Snarky answer 1.0: Techinically anything that has already been said, could possible be said again.
Snarky answer 2.0: And yet, you somehow found a way to say something. I never get folks that click on a clearly marked thread and complain about the thread's content.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:56 PM ^
Seriously, talking about PSU distracts me from the Michigan / Illinois game, which, honestly, makes me very very nervous.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:00 AM ^
Since you can still post no matter how negative your point total is, I feel like sending people to Bolivia doesn't really detter inappropriate posts. This may have already been explained, but is there no way to reinstitute the point thresholds for posting, seriously?
Sorry if this is a stupid post.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:50 AM ^
I agree, but that's the world we're stuck with for now. There is a point threshold for posting threads, but there is also a Michigan 2010 Secondary-sized hole in that threshold that allows it to be circumvented. But technical solutions are above my pay grade, so here we are.
As for Boliviating, it's at least a way to let people know that their behavior isn't cool. For those people who inadvertently cross lines, it's an eye-opener.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:09 AM ^
November 11th, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^
This "computer glitch" is an interesting angle, and might help make more sense out of how the story developed. If I recall correctly, when I heard the story on the radio last Saturday, the spin -- which would have come from either the prosecutor or the university -- was that Paterno had acted properly. If everyone involved had expected the details to remain confidential, this might have been the end of the story for Paterno with details shifting to Sandusky. As others have pointed out, it seems too coincidental that the story was released on a weekend, where it could get buried in the news cycle, and in particular the weekend after Paterno surpassed Eddie Robinson. An expectation that the details would remain confidential for some time would also explain how Paterno and the university seemed to be unprepared to deail with the story early in this week. It would be interesting to learn more about how the indictment became public.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:17 AM ^
The rumor being reported that Sandusky possibly pimped out kids to rich donors would take this to a whole new level. I really hope this isn't true.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:28 AM ^
As I understand it, Madsen (former pro wrestling reporter) is the one that started this up. He's not really a credible reporter and is not well respected in Pennsylvania. I believe he has been sued before for false allegations. None of the victims have claimed that Sandusky "pimped them out".
November 11th, 2011 at 9:51 AM ^
While I doubt it also, both due to horror at the concept and the lack of other sources saying so,if I'm not mistaken Madsen first reported about Sandusky back in April, so he doesn't deserve to be completely dismissed on grounds of credibility.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:04 PM ^
Both Tom Corbett and Mark Madden live in Shaler Township (outside of Pittsburgh), PA.
Madden may act like a blowhard, but he may acting or being used as a semi-legit PR tool of the Attorney General. He cannot be dismissed.
All the bizarre circumstances now seem to tie together...
1. Sandusky's non-persecution in 1998, and "retirement" in 1999.
2. The 2002 incident with McQ.
3. Ray Gricar's disappearance in 2005.
4. The 2009 investigation.
5. Last week
Something powerful is going on in the background.
Gosh, and we obsessed over "Stretch-Gate"... I feel for PSU fans.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:30 AM ^
I have a mental equation that I apply to all scenarios and that rumor was dismissed out of hand. (Whether my mental equation is at all coherent, I just don't know). That simply could not be kept a secret for nearly 15 years. In addition, I still do have just enough faith remaining in man kind to believe that that is just one radio personality getting his name on the internet, nothing more.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
This NESN article about the Second Mile Foundation explains the rumor:
http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-rumored-to-have-been-pimping…
November 11th, 2011 at 9:18 AM ^
No more Penn St. threads. Same shit over and over.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:42 AM ^
If it's the same shit over and over, everyone's life is easier if there is one place to dump it all.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:27 AM ^
Take the apostrophe out of the possessive "its" in the OP. I try not to be too much of a pyscho about grammar but in a mod-started OP.....
For people who don't know Bob: http://www.angryflower.com/itsits.gif
November 11th, 2011 at 9:54 AM ^
You take the time to correct someones grammer...really.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:17 AM ^
Grammer?
November 11th, 2011 at 10:38 AM ^
Well she corrected the grammar, just not spelling. Isn't there a difference?
November 11th, 2011 at 10:28 AM ^
......really
November 11th, 2011 at 10:53 AM ^
Later I'm driving to South Bend, entering his home, and yelling at him for not making his bed neatly enough.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:02 AM ^
Mom? When did you find out about MGoBlog?
November 11th, 2011 at 11:50 AM ^
Your fiancee's mom sent me an email about all your posts here.
November 11th, 2011 at 3:42 PM ^
And it's wife now*.
(*knows why too much about a complete strangers life but loved every minute of it).
November 11th, 2011 at 10:54 AM ^
It sounds to me like someone else needs to do the same for you.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:00 AM ^
That stuff bugs me too.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:26 AM ^
The PSU Board of Trustees is having their regularly scheduled meeting at 9:45 AM that is open to the media. We'll see if anything interesting comes out of that. In addition, following their meeting, they are having another press conference presumably to talk about what they discussed.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:44 AM ^
Could it be that McQuery (and Paterno?) DID actually bring the matter to the police? Remember that Curley (or the other guy, the one who wasn't the AD) had the CAMPUS POLICE under his watch. He was informed of the situation in 2002. I read the grand jury paper last night, and I can't remember names/times, but someone (I think McQuery) had a conversation with the AD and VP Whatever (The 2 guys charged with perjury). Since that VP was in charge of, you know, the police... wouldn't he have brought the matter to the police?
- not trying to make excuses for anyone, just random thoughts
November 11th, 2011 at 9:53 AM ^
No one seems to acknowledge that as "going to the police" but I'm not sure why.
November 11th, 2011 at 9:58 AM ^
And I dont know what I would have done in the same situation. Luckily (for me) I've never walked in on something so horrifying. It wasn't immediately calling 911... but I'm wondering if in reality word DID get to "the campus police".
November 11th, 2011 at 10:16 AM ^
but was it campus police or campus security. Because when I think of campus security, I think of the guys who give you parking tickets and that's about it.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:36 AM ^
November 11th, 2011 at 11:02 AM ^
PSU just didnt want anymore boys being molested on their property. Taking his keys away is akin to saying just dont do this here.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:14 AM ^
next time, get a room. Unbelievable.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:11 AM ^
They probably did nothing for the same bad reasons everyone else did nothing. To protect the reputation of the University and St. Joe.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:51 AM ^
I got to hang out with the campus police for a while, and then I had to go to real court because of it so that's unclear to me as well.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:31 PM ^
Because Gary Schultz was a vice-president of finance and business with oversight of the university police. I can't be certain, but that usually means some sort of audit responsibility, make sure the police department is operating properly, reporting its operations properly and accounting for its budget. Schultz wasn't the director/chief of police and had no day-to-day law enforcement responsibilities.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:17 AM ^
The VP is a bureaucrat, not a police officer, i.e., not trained in law enforcement and presumably having no oath to protect the public. My guess is that he's in charge of the campus police in the sense that he handles HR & financial matters. Paterno could have called the sheriff, chief of police, police commissioner, whomever you call in Happy Valley after he saw that the VP wasn't going to do anything. It would have been easy.