Former USC assistant has appeal denied, Tressel's next.

Submitted by APBlue on

A former USC assistant football coach who was found guilty by the NCAA for the same thing Jim Tressel has done has had his appeal denied.  From collegefootballtalk.com:

McNair was given a “show-cause” order by the NCAA last year, which bars him from having any contact with recruits for one year and in essence precludes him from coaching during that period given the nature of the job.  The NCAA this morning reaffirmed its June decision that McNair “provided false and misleading information to the enforcement staff” and “violated NCAA legislation by signing a document certifying that he had no knowledge of NCAA violations.” 

 

Can't wait for that August 12th hearing; should be followed by a fun season.  Go Blue!

 

collegefootballtalk.com referenced a press release from the NCAA, so there was no other publicati to link to, but here's the cft.com article: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/ex-usc-assistants-appeal-denied-by-ncaa/ 

Captain

April 29th, 2011 at 1:21 PM ^

A shame that the appeal of the June decision took until nearly May of the following year.  If OSU appeals any decision by the NCAA this fall, this might be not be behind us before the sun envelops the earth.

AFMich

April 29th, 2011 at 1:48 PM ^

I hope this gets really drawn out. It makes TSIO look not only like cheats, but whiny cheats. And the cloud will hang over them the longer this takes. If they would just take their medicine as soon as possible they could move on with things.

I would have to imagine that it is going to effect at least some recruits (seems to already effected Dunn). Then if they get hit with scholarship restrictions it will really hurt. One can hope, anyway.

GoBlueInNYC

April 29th, 2011 at 1:49 PM ^

Isn't this the same thing people said about USC? And (I could be very wrong here, I don't follow recruiting on the national level) didn't USC have a pretty solid haul? Maybe not on par with recent classes, but a pretty good one considering the sanctions, I thought.

ken725

April 29th, 2011 at 2:10 PM ^

I think you are right, USC has a strangle hold on recruits from so-Cal.  The only team they have to compete against is UCLA and it seems like they are not really putting up a fight.  USC can put together a top 10 class by recruiting kids just from California. 

People say that osu gets any recruit they want from ohio.  I think the usc situation might be similiar, but I feel like we will put up more of a fight that UCLA. 

stevemc_777

April 29th, 2011 at 1:36 PM ^

Personally, I don't mind this wound slowly festering into a giant sweater-vest shaped scar on that program. Awaiting NCAA punishment is a punishment in itself. Maybe not the big H-bomb some expect, but it is a slow, damaging erosion.

As we know, uncertainity hurts recruiting as bad as anything.

funkywolve

April 29th, 2011 at 2:15 PM ^

I haven't heard much about this USC coach, probably because he's an assistant (and I'm going to guess no longer employed by USC).

However, if this were to happen to Tressell and the appeal is drawn out 10 months that's an extra 10 months of uncertainty for recruits and the OSU football program.  That can't be good.

Urban Warfare

April 29th, 2011 at 1:38 PM ^

because I think he should be gone regardless, but didn't McNair go beyond lying to the NCAA?  I seem to recall that he submitted forged documents or photoshopped images to try to discredit NCAA witnesses.

GoBlueInNYC

April 29th, 2011 at 1:48 PM ^

Didn't Tressel lie to the NCAA in December when OSU was trying to keep the Five eligible for the Sugar Bowl? Or did he just lie to OSU when the university was putting together their plea?

I need to re-read that Fox Sports Ohio article, the whos, whats, and whens of this case are getting a little mixed up in my head.

thisisme08

April 29th, 2011 at 1:52 PM ^

Thats the thing I have a hard time with; I dont want to be an asshole about it (since were all M fans, it gets labeled that way) but no matter what way you cut the cake he lied to the NCAA by forwarding emails, knowingly playing ineligible players, submitting an appeal for said players to play in the bowl game pleading innocence and ignorance on their part and everything else thats came out. 

I cant see how the NCAA has no choice but to suspend him for a season, or give him the show cause penalty.  In all reality I would be happy with NO contact with the program during those 5 weeks; ie not coaching all week and then taking Saturday off. 

APBlue

April 29th, 2011 at 1:50 PM ^

Submitting forged documents or documents which are intended to cover up - what's the difference. In either case, the intention is to mislead the NCAA.
<br>Really, I understand the difference. But, it seems insignificant.

BlockM

April 29th, 2011 at 2:18 PM ^

It comes across as being mostly a problem of omission, but he on multiple occasions actively worked to keep this a secret. It's not like the players were doing this and he heard about it and ignored it. He signed things saying he didn't know. He told reporters and administrators that he was keeping confidentiality while calling mentors about the issue the whole time.

BlueArcflash

April 29th, 2011 at 5:39 PM ^

USC is not abiding by the sanctions (somehow) until after the appeal is decided. it was a low key headline I read awhile back. they took a full recruiting class and kiffin was reportedly telling recruits that they will definitely win the appeal. I don't remember where I read it unfortunately so maybe I can look it up tonight. We all know they won't win the appeal and still owe all the scholarships sanctions back.

RadioSimon1983

April 29th, 2011 at 6:07 PM ^

The biggest mistake OSU has made so far is not firing Tressel immediately.  Pretty soon they'll have to when he gets a show cause and the entire country will finally say "IT's about damn time!"

LSAClassOf2000

April 30th, 2011 at 10:38 AM ^

Why do I have this image in my head of a group of Buckeye fans standing in the center of their campus singing "Stand By Your Cheat...Errr...Man"?

I honestly hope the circus gets protracted a little bit - it would be intriguing to see a distracted and discredited Tressel attempt to coach a team while the NCAA puts on some gloves and checks his you-know-what for smuggled gems (on the sideline during a game too).....