Exciting Joshua Christopher News
Tracy Pierson of 247 sports writes: "A few sources have indicated recently, however, that Christopher now is just about certain to be going to Michigan."
Joshua Christopher: https://247sports.com/Player/Joshua-Christopher-46047630/
11th overall player in the class, #2 SG.
JUWAN IS ON A MISSION.
January 8th, 2020 at 10:09 AM ^
Oh my
January 8th, 2020 at 11:19 AM ^
That movie is so ridiculous on so many levels—Cage's comical southern accent, for example—yet every time it's on the tube I get immediately sucked in.
January 8th, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^
Same here. Like I'm watching myself star in a movie.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:18 PM ^
He was great in Raising Arizona, one of my all time favorite movies.
January 8th, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
Cage's accent in that movie was pretty downright awful, but there are still so many memorable moments in that movie. Hard not to love it.
I said....put...the bunny....back....in the box.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:08 PM ^
It's one of those bad movies you can't help but enjoy. When was the last time there was a movie like that? I can't think of any recent examples.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:10 PM ^
I haven't seen it yet but would guess Hobbs & Shaw qualifies.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:16 PM ^
Crawl. The killer alligator movie that came out this past summer was a fun bad movie imo.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:58 PM ^
The Room?
January 8th, 2020 at 10:33 AM ^
I agree with this sentiment!
January 8th, 2020 at 10:40 AM ^
Oscar worthy.
January 8th, 2020 at 11:31 AM ^
I approve this message.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:15 PM ^
Was this after he fucked the green chick?
January 8th, 2020 at 10:21 AM ^
See how good we can be when we release the bag?
January 8th, 2020 at 10:28 AM ^
It's great. The football team should take note and release the bag more than whatever they do already. Bag! Bag! Bag!
January 8th, 2020 at 10:41 AM ^
That’s not even funny. The Sparty narrative is soon to follow.
January 8th, 2020 at 10:56 AM ^
I wasn't trying to be funny. All for the bag.
And as far as Sparty narratives about paying players, who cares? Everyone in the free world knows Duke, Kentucky, et al. do it and do they care? No, because college fans know that the players deserve the money and it's actually a good thing they are being paid for the work they perform. I genuinely hope Juwan is using the bag early and often.
January 8th, 2020 at 11:01 AM ^
The Sparty narrative at RCMB started the day Juwan was hired. If that was your only news source you would think that M brought back “one of the biggest cheaters in the history of college sports” despite the fact that JH was never indicated in the Ed Martin case (and totally ignoring that fact that he was giving cash - maybe not as much - to players going to MSU.)
January 8th, 2020 at 11:05 AM ^
he wasn't indicated or indicted!
January 8th, 2020 at 11:50 AM ^
Or implicated!
January 8th, 2020 at 11:11 AM ^
Is your contention that we're getting 5 stars due to Juwan's charisma compared to Beilein, and not due to the addition of bag?
That's... naive.
January 8th, 2020 at 11:31 AM ^
You’re telling me Juwan doesn’t relate to players better than JB did? I have a hard time believing Juwan wants to attract too much attention to his recruiting if he’s cheating to do it.
I personally hate the bag comments. Unless you have proof, or even some smoke, it’s dumb to speculate.
January 8th, 2020 at 12:27 PM ^
Ok. You're 17 years old, don't have a ton of family money, and are a top-20 basketball recruit.
School A offers you $200k.
School B offers you $0.
Who are you choosing?
Thinking that there are 5-stars out there NOT getting paid by boosters is naive, quaint, and kinda hilarious. Once one school is offering money, then EVERY school has to offer money, just to keep up with the Joneses.
These recruits didn't grow up drinking the Michigan kool-aid. To a kid from California who wasn't even alive the last time Michigan won a title, there is nothing more "special" about Michigan than Texas, Arizona, Minnesota, or UNC. To the 5-stars, college basketball is just a means to an end, and they'll take the best deal they can get.
The fact that our fanbase continues on this delusional path of "WE'RE HOLIER THAN EVERYONE ELSE" largely makes us the laughingstock of the college sports world. I'm sorry if this shatters your worldview a bit, but it's just reality...
January 8th, 2020 at 1:25 PM ^
Assumptions and speculation is all I’m hearing.
You know for a fact that every kid in AAU is poor and looking for a paycheck. Paint with a broad brush much?
UM basketball during JB’s tenure was a laughingstock? And those kids didn’t see UM go to two national championship games? Oh right, they’re so poor they probably don’t own TVs.
Boosters don’t have to be tied to coaches. so is it possible someone associated with UM is posting these kids? Sure, it’s possible. But until you offer any evidence that a booster or Juwan is cheating you’re just speculating. I bet you get out of jury duty quite easily.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:18 PM ^
What are you even talking about?
Boosters paying high-ranked recruits has been the norm in basketball and football for 30+ years. Thinking we're somehow immune from it, despite consistently having highly ranked recruiting classes, is delusional.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:19 PM ^
Exactly - Juwan is a player's coach with strong NBA connections - something that young recruits are interested in. He's also reeled in a few other great players so far - and other players want to be a part of that. He's got something exciting going on. If they're getting paid - prove it.
You're right - its all misguided assumptions. Not every AAU kid is poor and taking illicit under-the-table payments (also - a lot of the kids' families definitely could use some cash but not all of them automatically take the NCAA violation option). I imagine some of them would also like to avoid any entangling relationships and wait a year or two to collect a much bigger and legal payment.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:29 PM ^
I agree 100%. Also why is Michigan the only public power 5 school that does not offer online classes for athletes? Clearly this is an advantage for other schools.
January 9th, 2020 at 7:56 AM ^
The kid may no know Juwan, I guarantee his parents watched the Fab Five play. If my sons were old enough to play college basketball, I absolutely would want him to plan for JH as it would be nostalgic for me! I know that’s selfish but it’s the truth. Plus, JB never really went after this type of player.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:05 PM ^
I have a hard time believing Juwan wants to attract too much attention to his recruiting if he’s cheating to do it.
My god this sanctimonious bullshit is the worst part about this fanbase. Juwan knows how the game is played. Beilein left because he knew what he had to do to get 5 stars and refused to do it because he is, at his heart, a rule-follower.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:12 PM ^
I will eat crow as soon as you show me any evidence that he’s cheating. I refuse to accuse someone of doing something just because “every other coach is doing it” and “don’t be naive, that’s what you have to do to get these guys”. You’re offering nothing other than speculation. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF? Oh right, you don’t have any.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:22 PM ^
1. There is literally no moral quandary related to this. Every other blue/purple blood is doing it. Saying I'm "accusing" him without proof is the wrong way of phrasing this because I don't view it as a bad thing, and neither should you.
2. Open your eyes. Juwan is a good recruiter. He's also going up against schools offering 200k. The idea that these kids are getting *nothing* from Michigan's network is ridiculous.
Shit, man, put yourself in their shoes. Would you rather have a somewhat more charismatic head coach for 1-2 years or $200,000? ESPECIALLY if you don't come from money, which a lot of these kids don't.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:35 PM ^
You can’t say it’s not a moral quandary when there are risks and consequences involved. And there’s the obligatory “everyone else is doing it”
i can never put myself in these kid’s shoes. I grew up poor but with little to no athletic ability. Nothing worth paying for anyway.
i can’t say if these kids are getting paid or not because I don’t know and neither do any of you. Maybe I’m naive, most likely the case, but Juwan seems like a genuinely good dude who LOVES UM. Why would he try to send it back to the Brian Elerbe days in his first year? His first head coaching job ever.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^
This is a weird thing to type, but Chuck Norris is just way smarter than you lol
January 8th, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^
Fuck :(
January 8th, 2020 at 2:29 PM ^
"Being a good guy who loves Michigan" and "turning a blind eye to kids getting money from boosters" are not mutually exclusive. Some would even say they're complementary.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:49 PM ^
You should hope there's $$. Especially if we wanna keep thinking of ourselves as moral
January 8th, 2020 at 12:35 PM ^
It’s not about charisma.
It’s who do high school kids get more hyped about playing for?
A 66 year old white guy from upstate New York who is known for; his attention to detail and fundamentals?
Or a 46 year old black guy from the south side projects of Chicago, who is known for; being part of the most famous college b-ball team of the last 30 years which changed the look and feel or basketball with the baggy shorts and swagger, signing the first $100 million contract in NBA history, having a 19-year NBA career including being teammates of LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, winning a few NBA championships, then coaching LeBron James and Dwayne, and who still has swagger and was dancing on the court when Michigan beat Gonzaga a few months ago, also who is known for having a “let the kids play their way through mistakes” style of coaching?
January 8th, 2020 at 11:15 AM ^
Agreed, it's not funny. It's reality.
If you want 5-stars, you have to drop the bag, and I'm totally fine with it. The kids deserve money, we have money... no reason to not give them what they're worth.
January 8th, 2020 at 11:37 AM ^
It is also against the rules. I would hope that somebody would provide proof before making an allegation that Juwan and his staff are engaging in this type of activity.
Michigan is special, and is about excellence with integrity. I believe that Juwan buys into this mission 100%.
It is ridiculous to say that because some cheat, everybody cheats, or everybody has to cheat to get any excellent players.
I am sure Michigan loses out on many players because they will not cheat. However, Michigan is special in many ways that other programs are not, so it has a value proposition to attract excellent players. This includes integrity. Juwan is also special and has many unique skills, contacts, and ability to reach these student athletes without cheating
As John Beilein showed, you do not have to be dirty to be successful. It just takes much longer to build that level of success.
January 8th, 2020 at 11:46 AM ^
I think it’s more complicated than, “it’s against the rules”. The rules have been set by a morally corrupt institution. And they are rules in name only. Given those circumstances, you could argue that following the rules is actually the wrong thing to do.
January 8th, 2020 at 12:36 PM ^
I would agree that the rules are not equitable. The problem does not rise to the level of morality. Nobody is being abused here. The players are compensated very well with room and board, and in the case of Michigan, an excellent excellent education. They also are developed and trained to move to the next level and have access to contacts that can make that happen; although there are no guarantees. Nobody is forced into this system, and in general, the rules prohibit abuse.
While I would agree that the players deserve more, it does not rise to the moral level of mandating that the rules should not be followed. I think that line of thinking is just being used as a convenient excuse to pursue the easy way out
January 8th, 2020 at 12:01 PM ^
This kind of thinking is why Ohio State beats us by 4 touchdowns every year.
January 8th, 2020 at 12:23 PM ^
Then, so be it.
However, I believe our football team will be built to compete at the highest level. It will just take more time and iteration.
January 8th, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
You might be the most naive man in the world. You're expecting me to believe that a never-been-a-head coach or coached in college person, comes into a sport notorious for needing to cheat to get 5 stars, with a short cycle since he arrived late, comes in and all of a sudden starts grabbing 5 stars because Michigan is special place when those same recruits didn't even give Michigan the time of day before?
I have some ocean front property in Arizona you might be interested in.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:05 PM ^
I believe Michigan is special. Being associated with this great university is special, and, in and of itself, provides benefits to all of its students that benefits them for a lifetime, and go beyond money and material possessions. This is more important than any win or loss. Integrity is the most important asset that this university has. Mr. Manuel, and Coaches Harbaugh, Howard, Hutchins, et al. live that every day, and sometimes must swallow their pride on the field as a result. Many of the recruiting battles we lose are indicators that this is true. If this belief without any proof to the contrary makes me naive, then so be it.
I find your lack of confidence in both Michigan and Juwan Howard unfortunate. I would hope that you could allow yourself to have some faith that both have something very compelling to offer that mean more than money.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:15 PM ^
Please, oh for the love of god, shut the fuck up. Don’t ever talk like this again.