Every Conference Championship Outcome: Playoff Possibilities

Submitted by joegeo on November 26th, 2023 at 9:38 AM

You're about to witness the greatest miracle of the machine age. Based on the revolutionary computation law of probability, this machine will tell us the precise order of the 4 golden tickets.

Here they are: all 32 combinations. Some are more likely than others, of course. Here are the current lines: Mich by 21, Texas by 11.5, Oregon by 9, FSU by 5.5, Georgia by 4.5.

G win, M win, Wash loss, FSU win, Texas win: 1) G 2) Mich 3) Oregon 4) FSU (all favorites win)
G win, M win, Wash loss, FSU loss, Texas win: 1) G 2) Mich 3) Oregon 4) Texas
G win, M win, Wash win, FSU win, Texas win: 1) G 2) Mich 3) Wash 4) FSU
G win, M win, Wash win, FSU loss, Texas win: 1) G 2) Mich 3) Wash 4) Texas
G win, M win, Wash win, FSU loss, Texas loss: 1) G 2) Mich 3) Wash 4) Ohio St
G win, M win, Wash win, FSU win, Texas loss: 1) G 2) Mich 3) Wash 4) FSU
G win, M win, Wash loss, FSU win, Texas loss: 1) G 2) Mich 3) Oregon 4) FSU
G win, M win, Wash loss, FSU loss, Texas loss: 1) G 2) Mich 3) Oregon 4) Ohio St
G loss, M win, Wash win, FSU win, Texas win: 1) Mich 2) Wash 3) Alabama 4) FSU 
G loss, M win, Wash win, FSU win, Texas loss: 1) Mich 2) Wash 3) Alabama 4) FSU
G loss, M win, Wash win, FSU loss, Texas win: 1) Mich 2) Wash 3) Texas 4) Alabama 
G loss, M win, Wash win, FSU loss, Texas loss: 1) Mich 2) Wash 3) Georgia 4) Alabama
G loss, M win, Wash loss, FSU win, Texas win: 1) Mich 2) FSU 3) Alabama 4) Oregon
G loss, M win, Wash loss, FSU win, Texas loss: 1) Mich 2) FSU 3) Alabama 4) Oregon
G loss, M win, Wash loss, FSU loss, Texas win: 1) Mich 2) Oregon 3) Alabama 4) Texas
G loss, M win, Wash loss, FSU loss, Texas loss: 1) Mich 2) Oregon 3) Alabama 4) Georgia

Michigan is by far the biggest favorite in their game, but here are these useless outcomes anyways:
G win, M loss, Wash win, FSU win, Texas win: 1) G 2) Wash 3) FSU 4) Texas
G win, M loss, Wash win, FSU win, Texas loss: 1) G 2) Wash 3) FSU 4) Mich
G win, M loss, Wash win, FSU loss, Texas win: 1) G 2) Wash 3) Mich 4) Texas
G win, M loss, Wash win, FSU loss, Texas loss: 1) G 2) Wash 3) Mich 4) Ohio St 
G win, M loss, Wash loss, FSU win, Texas win: 1) G 2) FSU 3) Oregon 4) Texas
G win, M loss, Wash loss, FSU win, Texas loss: 1) G 2) FSU 3) Oregon 4) Mich
G win, M loss, Wash loss, FSU loss, Texas win: 1) G 2) Oregon 3) Mich 4) Texas 
G win, M loss, Wash loss, FSU loss, Texas loss: 1) G 2) Oregon 3) Mich 4) Ohio St 
G loss, M loss, Wash win, FSU win, Texas win: 1) Wash 2) FSU 3) Alabama 4) Texas 
G loss, M loss, Wash win, FSU win, Texas loss: 1) Wash 2) FSU 3) Alabama 4) Mich
G loss, M loss, Wash win, FSU loss, Texas win: 1) Wash 2) Alabama 3) Mich 4) Texas
G loss, M loss, Wash win, FSU loss, Texas loss: 1) Wash 2) Alabama 3) Mich 4) Georgia
G loss, M loss, Wash loss, FSU win, Texas win: 1) FSU 2) Oregon 3) Texas  4) Alabama
G loss, M loss, Wash loss, FSU win, Texas loss: 1) FSU 2) Alabama 3) Oregon 4) Mich
***G loss, M loss, Wash loss, FSU loss, Texas win: 1) Alabama  2) Oregon 3) Mich 4) Texas
G loss, M loss, Wash loss, FSU loss, Texas loss: 1) Alabama 2) Oregon 3) Georgia 4) Mich

***8 1-loss teams!!!

Notes:
I think that if Mich and Wash/Oregon are in the semifinal, they will work the seeding as best as they can to match them up for the last true rose bowl.

I think Alabama is in if they beat Georgia despite head to head loss to Texas.

Rooting Guide: 
Michigan over Iowa (just win): In this case, any of Texas, Alabama, or FSU winning eliminates Ohio St (according to my scientific predictions)

In case of disaster: Texas or FSU loss gives Michigan a solid case to still qualify. 

BuckeyeChuck

November 26th, 2023 at 9:56 AM ^

any of Texas, Alabama, or FSU winning eliminates Ohio St (according to my scientific predictions)

I believe this is true.

Georgia can beat Bama. We'll see if Louisville can hang with FSU. Texas losing to OSU (NTOSU) seems to be the biggest reach. But if those 3 things happen I do believe that OSU makes it in.

Cruzcontrol75

November 26th, 2023 at 10:20 AM ^

I think Louisville does beat FSU and get’s screwed.  Bama-UGA seems like a toss up with both playing well but neither looking unbeatable.  Don’t see Texas losing but it’s Texas.  

I never like the idea of a team not making the conf championship and having to risk losing still getting in to the CFP. But objectively if the only loss is on the road to an undefeated #1 or #2 team at the end of the conf. championships then its hard to argue against.  

snowcrash

November 26th, 2023 at 11:12 AM ^

I agree that OSU would probably get in over 1-loss FSU. Losing close at Michigan isn't as bad as losing to Louisville at a neutral site. Their best wins are comparable (FSU over LSU and @Clemson, OSU over Penn St and @Notre Dame), but FSU had a bunch of narrow escapes against mediocre opponents. 

bdneely4

November 26th, 2023 at 11:48 AM ^

If Washington loses to Oregon, their best win would be Oregon and their worst loss would be Oregon. That would be better than anything OSU has on record. I am sure though that the CFP committee would never consider OSU for 3 separate years as a playoff team without even playing in their conference Championship because you know Ohio vs The World. 

Blau

November 26th, 2023 at 12:55 PM ^

I guarantee Day will start to come out early this week lobbying again why OSU “deserves” a chance to keep playing. Granted he probably should because he’s the HC and OSU is still a good team but every media member and their mother claimed the loser of The Game had basically a lottery-style chance of getting in. End of story, right? You lost what was essentially a pre-CFP playoff game and now back door scenarios have to be considered. 

I don’t get why OSU gets the fighter’s chance for basically losing the real B1G conference championship game while other conference’s top teams who have to play another game are essentially penalized if they lose. Not scared of playing OSU twice and would love to beat them again but that game is done. 

bdneely4

November 26th, 2023 at 1:54 PM ^

I think OSU has a better case this year than they did last year of being one of the four best teams. I get that a lot of teams lost last year making the choice of putting them in the playoffs somewhat legit, but how can a team get blown out at home to their biggest rival, not play in a championship game and make it in over two teams that did.  I think because Michigan and OSU made it in last year and both teams lost, that will be enough to not have two teams in the B1G in again.  I know this year is a new one but previous years do play a role in decision making especially when the outcomes are very similar to the previous year where the same team won The Game. 

mlax27

November 26th, 2023 at 9:49 AM ^

Does the #1 seed get to pick where they want to play, regardless of any big10/pac12 affiliation with the rose bowl?  
 

Seems highly likely we end up in the rose bowl but not a given yet. 

joegeo

November 26th, 2023 at 9:54 AM ^

Forgot about that. I was thinking 2-3 was the rose bowl no matter what. They're meant to give the #1 seed a geographic advantage.

With this in mind, I think you're right, pretty much every scenario in which Michigan and either Wash/Oregon qualify (which is nearly every scenario) enables them to match up in the rose bowl.

 

Durham Blue

November 26th, 2023 at 10:09 AM ^

If Michigan, UW, FSU and Texas all win, and UGA loses to Alabama, and Alabama gets into the CFP, then I am writing Senators.  How would that be remotely fair to Texas, who beat Alabama AT ALABAMA?  And quite convincingly I might add.  The same Alabama team that needed, just yesterday, a 4th and 31 Hail Mary to beat a very average Auburn team.

Sorry, but that shit won't fly in the court of public opinion and I don't think the CFP would do that.

joegeo

November 26th, 2023 at 10:28 AM ^

There are many scenarios where Texas feels screwed, and this combo may be the biggest one.

My thinking:
Key Element: Beating the 2-time defending national champion, who has a 29-game win streak, earns you an edge over other 1-loss teams. Major Edge: Alabama
Head to Head: Texas' win over Alabama was nearly 3 months ago, so committee doesn't weight it as much as Texas would like. Slight Edge: Texas
Underperformances: Both have had bad wins. Edge: even
Unspoken element: The SEC has won 6 of the last 8 NCs and had at least 1 team in the NC in 8 of the last 8. B12 has 1 playoff semifinal win (let's not talk about it). Edge: Alabama

Durham Blue

November 26th, 2023 at 10:52 AM ^

I also don't think the CFP would leave out an undefeated P5 conference champion.  It shouldn't matter if FSU is playing their backup QB.  If anything, it makes FSU look even better that they can overcome not having their (previous to injury) Heisman-worthy QB to beat a very good Louisville team to win the conference.

EDIT: the only logical choice here is leaving the SEC completely out of the CFP.

CaliforniaNobody

November 26th, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^

I guess CCG pending, but I think we've easily earned #1. I have felt we've been clearly the best team in football all year, and I've never seen a Michigan team actually be underrated like this so consistently. Usually we win 8 games and we're getting ranked top 25. Now we dominate 12-0 and there's still doubters. 

UMroadwarrior

November 26th, 2023 at 12:28 PM ^

I’m not complaining, when you’re in the CFP, you’re gonna play a good team.  But the fact that we’re kind of stuck in that 2 position (assuming we take care of Iowa and Georgia takes care of AL) isn’t great.  It means we’re almost certainly going to play a west coast team, probably Oregon, in the Rose bowl.

 
I think I would rather us draw Georgia in the semis at the sugar bowl, over Oregon in Pasadena.  Not saying we can’t win, but I think most can agree that Oregon in Pasadena is a bad draw for us.

LostPatrol14

November 26th, 2023 at 2:06 PM ^

I don’t know about all of you, but I’d rather play Washington than Oregon. Washington is too 1-dimensional. Granted, it’s worked thus far, but that would be a bad matchup against Michigan’s defense. Oregon, however, can run and pass. Their defense is very good and fast. 
 

If, somehow, Oregon gets in, I would love to see them play Georgia. Very curious on how that would go.