Estimate for Carvin Johnson's Return?
September 15th, 2010 at 12:59 AM ^
as Very Doubtful for ND.
I kind of think he wouldn't play vs anybody until necessary, probably at least a couple more weeks.
September 15th, 2010 at 1:03 AM ^
Crutches are never a good sign. However he was listed as 'very doubtful' for the Notre Dame game which is a better sign than being 100% out.
Edit: damn beat me to it BlueinLansing
September 15th, 2010 at 1:06 AM ^
A sprained MCL is typically a week-to-week injury depending on the severity. As I recall, Rodriguez indicated that he was doubtful for Notre Dame but didn't seem too concerned.
I'll bet they'll let him properly heal over the next two weeks, so that he's healthy for the Big Ten season.
September 15th, 2010 at 1:12 AM ^
Don't expect Carvin back before the Indiana game at the earliest, and that's not just because of our level of competition. Ligamentous injuries don't heal very quickly because of poor blood supply, and although I'm sure he is getting treatment around the clock it is difficult to increase blood supply to a ligament such as the MCL.
Assuming no weight bearing (as evidenced by the crutches) I would say 4-6 weeks from the time of the original injury, and considering our competition there would seem to be little to gain from getting him back. My guess is if his rehab goes well Carvin would be a backup against Indiana, with the potential to get in on a few plays in that game to get his feet wet, or potentially if the game is in hand and the coaching staff feels he would assimilate well into game speed for the MSU game they may decide to hold him out of the Indiana game altogether.
September 15th, 2010 at 9:58 AM ^
He's a true freshman. There is plenty to gain by getting him back. He's played in less than 1 game in his career. We need to get guys experience over the next few weeks before the Big 10 schedule starts.
September 15th, 2010 at 11:03 AM ^
he is a true freshman and we have at least one very capable backup. he will have a long bad-ass career at M. the more weeks he can add to his rehab the better in the long run. start working him in after 3-4 weeks at earliest. servicable replacements at that position (unfortunately not throughout the D).
September 15th, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^
You also have to keep in mind that if he comes back too early he could tear his MCL and that would be season ending
September 15th, 2010 at 10:46 AM ^
I sprained my PCL and the swelling itself didn't go down for several weeks not to mention getting back to playing speed. Granted, I did not have an entire training staff working on me but I still would not expect him back for at least another few weeks.
September 15th, 2010 at 11:16 AM ^
although it wasnt at the level of B10 football, I sprained my MCL on a thursday and played on saturday. I played DE and hobbled for a few weeks, it was better in a few weeks and I never missed a game. I also wasnt treated by Michigans staff. I except by MSU, and only because he isnt needed until then.
September 15th, 2010 at 5:06 PM ^
There are varying degrees of sprains. Carvin's looked like the type where the ligament was overstretched to a point where his knee buckled on him. If you were to have Carvin come back too soon, he is at high risk for reinjuring the ligament, further stretching a tissue that is meant to give stability by anatomically being inelastic, and with his knee buckling/moving around too much he would be at risk for meniscal problems and even potentially ACL tears. So to say that you can't do further damage once you sprain your MCL is false.
Again, there are different grades, and judging from what I saw from Carvin and read about the severity of his injury, the MSU game would be my guess.
September 15th, 2010 at 1:20 AM ^
Good news is we prob wont need him for the next two dare i say 3 games. Back in time for Sparty sounds good.
September 15th, 2010 at 1:54 AM ^
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September 15th, 2010 at 5:25 PM ^
It was right before halftime. They knew that they were all going to the locker room in just a few minutes. And with Carvin going straight to the locker room, and not the Michigan sideline, the cart was the best way to go.
September 15th, 2010 at 7:29 AM ^
I've sprained my MCL twice( 2 years in a row, against the same damn team) and the biggest problem was the swelling. It's pretty traumatic to your knee to sprain any of those major ligaments. This of course limits the mobility and flexibility of the joint. The rehab was very painful, as the trainer was forcefully bending my leg to break up any scar tissue. It took about 2 1/2 weeks until I could walk around without crutches, but once I could walk around freely I could also run( I was a running back). It's kind of like spraining an ankle; you can't really hurt it any worse than it already is. So, if you can stand the pain and you have all the flexibility back in your joint-you can play. It is uncomfortable and the pain is there for about 2-21/2 months, but with the benefit of one of those big ass offensive linemen knee braces you can play and be confident that you'll be able to do the things you could do before.
He'll probably be wearing one of those big leg braces that doesn't allow you to bend your knee for about 3 days to a week. Then he'll have it wrapped to try and reduce the swelling. After that it's all about getting the flexibility and mobility back. I'd say he would be able to play in 3 weeks if he absolutely had to, but 5 weeks would probably be more than enough time.
This is completely based on my personal experience and everyone is different, so who knows? But, he's got the benefit of being young, in really good shape and a world class medical staff-my bet is he'll heal relatively quickly.
September 15th, 2010 at 8:34 AM ^
I thought Black, Johnson and M Robinson would see time on D. Anyone seen Marvin?
September 15th, 2010 at 9:53 AM ^
and neither does marvin
September 15th, 2010 at 9:09 AM ^
Although if it makes you feel any better, I saw him on the bus the other day and he didn't seem to have any kind of massive cast or brace on his leg anymore. All he had was crutches, and he seemed to be using them as a cautionary measure, seeing as how the bus was crowded and he didn't bother trying to get someone to vacate a seat to use.
September 15th, 2010 at 11:06 AM ^
He didn't even have crutches in class today.. I'll take that as a good sign.
September 15th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^
a medical redshirt and let T Gordon do his thing. He has been playing well. No point in rushing him back on the field when he could get re-injured.
September 15th, 2010 at 10:42 AM ^
if he can come back for MSU that would really be the best of all worlds.
September 15th, 2010 at 11:11 AM ^
I wouldn't be upset with a medical redshirt as long as his replacements can get it done in his absence. Better to come back fully healthy than come back and get reinjured.
September 15th, 2010 at 10:57 PM ^
playing rugby. I don't think mine was as severe though, as i didn't need crutches. However, I was out 3 weeks. It still doesn't feel right at times, but once you're mostly healed there isn't much risk playing on it again. I'm not sure it would be the same though since rugby is very different from football. I also didn't have a college staff of trainers to help, so that helps Carvin too.