ESPN's Pelton ranks Walton 28th best player in draft; Wilson 40

Submitted by ish on

One of ESPN's bball advanced stats guys put together a list of top players in this year's NBA draft based on historical stat data, factoring in scouts' projection, which apparently improves accuracy.

Results are here: http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/19638855/ranking-markelle-fu…

As set forth in the title, he ranks Walton 28th and Wilson 40th. 

McDoomButt

June 19th, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^

"My projections estimate the number of WARP (wins above replacement player) that each player will average during his first five seasons in the NBA, based on two components."

It's unclear if this is in comparison to his backup on the roster or an average player at that position or what.

panthera leo fututio

June 19th, 2017 at 12:35 PM ^

Here's a detailed breakdown of WARP by Pelton himself: http://www.sonicscentral.com/warp.html

But to answer your question: WARP is meant to represent the number of wins that a given player would add over the course of the season on a team of four other average players, compared to the wins generated by four average players and one "replacement-level player"; i.e. a player right on the margin of sticking in the NBA -- somebody you could swap out with any number of D-league guys on 10-day contracts and expect about the same statistical production.

panthera leo fututio

June 19th, 2017 at 7:09 PM ^

In Wins Above Replacement Player (and the closely related Value Over Replacement Player), the "replacement" player isn't average, but at the bottom end of viable. The wins/value are calculated in the context of average teammates and opponents, but the hypothetical comparison player is much worse than average.

Grampy

June 19th, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^

The leagues (NFL and NBA) thrive on them. What Walton has isn't so easily measured, starting with a huge heart and desire to win. Don't see that so much in Wilson.

ST3

June 19th, 2017 at 12:10 PM ^

I watched about 5 minutes of a draft combine scrimmage. Walton was on one team and Wagner was on the other. That was strange. Wagner looked OK, but I think he made the right choice coming back. The announcers mentioned that 17 of the first round guys last year spent some time in the D-league this year. That appears to be Walton's fate, initially. I can see him making a roster eventually as an 8-10 mpg type contributor. He just seems too small to be the lead guy at PG for somebody. But I could be wrong.

Year of Revenge II

June 19th, 2017 at 12:34 PM ^

Would Wilson have made the wrong choice financially if he had ended up like #5 in next year's draft (a distinct possibility with continued improvement)?  I suppose it depends how the rookies' salaries are capped, and I am not aware of how that works.  

If there was no cap, then I think he definitely made the wrong choice.