Enough BS: Let’s start the Mason Graham Heisman hype train a rollin’
I’m in!
he just need's an INT and punt return for TD against OSU this year
it's happening, heard it from an insider
Might be meant in jest, but it’s absolutely a key plank of any “unusual” Heisman campaign. A key, game-changing play, especially in a huge moment, is a crucial part of winning what is essentially a popularity contest between players whose contributions are hard to compare statistically.
I believe there have been two situations since Woodson where a defensive player was one play away from winning a Heisman:
- 2009, Ndamukong Suh is getting serious hype. Nebraska plays national title contender Texas in the Big 12 championship game, and it’s surprisingly competitive. Nebraska leads very late and Texas is backed up against their own end zone in a two minute situation. If Suh gets the key stop, perhaps a safety, I believe he wins an otherwise unimpressive Heisman race that year instead of Mark Ingram (or other top candidates Toby Gerhart and Colt McCoy).
- 2021, Aidan Hutchinson. CJ Stroud arcs a soft pass to Trayveon Henderson in the flat in the red zone… just over Aidan’s outstretched fingers. Aidan gets that and it’s a pick, maybe a pick six. And he’s getting a trophy in New York.
A unusual candidacy is possible but not likely. Woodson was a superb candidate with great contributions and highlights already, but there’s no question he sealed the trophy with an all-time performance in the biggest moment against OSU.
it was in jest....
this guy is probably our best player next year
and we wouldn't have beat Bama without him..... he has my vote! (if I had a vote)
It was obviously in jest. It's going to be Kenneth Grant that gets the punt return for a touchdown.
Grant had an interception against Nebraska. I swear I remember him have an INT and returning it for 10-15 yards.
Long story short anything could happen.
March 20th, 2024 at 10:41 PM ^
Sure you aren't thinking of Jenkins INT against BG?
March 20th, 2024 at 11:16 PM ^
That was it. Thank you.
If you didnt hear it on Counterstrike, it’s fake news.
Great Song. For those that don’t know it is a pretty old song. Johnny Burnett and the Rock n Roll trio did the original in like 49 or 50. A History of Rock n Roll in 500 Songs covers it in episode 44. One of the Burnet brothers fought Sonny Liston.
love the Aerosmith version and thought the history was neat.
March 21st, 2024 at 10:58 AM ^
Agreed - great old song, that has seen many covers and variations.
Johnny Burnett and the Rock n Roll trio did the original in like 49 or 50
^ This is incorrect. The song was first recorded by Tiny Bradshaw (a black jazz / R&B musician) in '51 and then covered by Johnny Burnett and the Rock and Roll Trio in '56. Obviously, not believing you did this intentionally, but it is astounding to see how the role black people played in the creation of rock and roll and other forms of music is dismissed or left out altogether in the overarching history.
Auto upvote for any Jeff Beck reference
I may be in, but it's hard to forget that Ndamukong Suh had as dominant a season as any DT ever, but only finished 4th in the Heisman voting.
You read my mind and beat me by one minute.
Emtman and Suh are my go to’s for all-time DTs. Emtman was also 4th in Heisman voting. Graham has the potential to match or exceed them.
Yeah, but Suh didn't wrestle in high school...
Played Basketball down the street. Was awesome. Mason is a different player/style. Emtman was the best I have ever seem.
The early draft has ruined college sport but it would be awesome to see a Senior Graham. Maybe better than Steve. Saw Emtman at coin flip of championship. The best.
Suh played basketball down the street from my house. Was awesome. Mason is a different player/style, probably due to wrestling work. Emtman was the best I have ever seen.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nqdv4
The early draft has ruined college sport but it would be awesome to see a Senior Graham. Maybe better than Steve. Saw Emtman at coin flip of championship. The best.
Iirc Nebraska lost to Texas because a throw out of bounds hit something before time ran out (in Big 12 championship?)
I think if they won that, Suh goes up the rankings that year, and maybe a shot at winning.
There’s a Bo Pellini video where he goes full conspiracy on this.
https://youtu.be/7Jsynh3A5P8?si=tASuKKp36FwUD7_l
March 20th, 2024 at 10:22 PM ^
This (event, watched another video of the replay) makes it pretty clear that it was clearcut that there was 1 second left when the ball hit the ground. My recollection was that it was closer than that, but it seems pretty obvious.
Really just depends on what happens around them in any given year. Defensive players are absolutely at a disadvantage, but Hutch finished runner up a few years ago, and if Georgia had beat Alabama in the SEC title game, Hutch probably wins the Heisman over Bryce Young.
I remember Suh in college. I never seen an interior lineman so dominant.
Ndamukong Suh and Aaron Donald are the gold standard for college dominance as an interior DL.
Look up Aaron Donald's stats. They're up there with Suh's stats. The only reason more people weren't aware of Donald's stats is because he played on mediocre Pitt teams.
Graham and Grant will play on a reigning and defending National Championship Michigan team. If we keep winning, they should garner much more attention than Donald ever did.
The Stat I remember about Donald is that the Lions drafted Eric Ebron while Donald was still on the board. The Rams drafted him with the next pick. Just another pleasant, Pre-Campbell Lions Memory...
Ok…
The Graham Cracker
The Angry Marshmellow
Grahamaican Bobsled Team
The Grahaminator.
Makin' copies.
(If only. We could use a few more.)
Golden boy
The Pale Brandon Graham
In Sammy Haggar's voice: you can't block 55
"you can't block 55" is the winner for tagline.
For whom the Graham Bell tolls, it tolls for thee
This will be more fun if there's a "deserving" SEC skill player that could finish second.
Preferably from Tennessee....
The Masonic Boom!
yeah, I know it doesn’t make any actual sense. Kind of like a sonic boom but mason based. Maybe.
I’ll vote for it
Free Mason
Mason the Mortar
Mason Layer of Bricks
Brickyard Mason Hundred (a little bit Rick and Morty)
Masonic Boom. Love this. Reminiscent of Berman in his prime.
I like the cut of your jib sir.
" Destroyer of Souls"...
Sounds better than "Johnny Football" at least.
I like that thought. Maybe "Soul Collector"? Taker of Souls?
Go, Blue! Go, Graham! Go, Grant too!
I like 'em, but they seem a bit generic for a Heisman catch phrase...
We’re going to need to juice the stats. MasonCat and Hammering Panda deployment on the goal line.
“Mason Graham, the bestest most awesome player ever in the history of organized athletic competition”
Subtle, but I think that’s why it works. You want the reader to come to their own conclusions and, you know, beat them over the head with the slogan.
Mason Graham would need a Ndamukong Suh level season to be a Heisman Finalist. I hope it happens.
More realistic scenario: Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant as 2024-25 unanimous all-Americans from the Michigan DL. I think each is primed to do amazing things.
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I'll use this opportunity to discuss the defense...
Will Johnson is Will Johnson. I wonder if he can reach Charles Woodson-esque levels of dominance this season.
I hope Derrick Moore and Josaiah Stewart take the next step and becomes monstrous pass rushers.
Rod Moore doesn't get enough credit for being the elite defender he is. I hope he finally earns that recognition this season.
/And I'm optimistic about our LBs this season in Ernest Hausmann, Jaishawn Barham, and back-ups like Jimmy Rolder.
//I'm excited to see players like Ja'Den McBurrows, Zeke Berry, and Brandyn Hillman take the next step in the secondary.
///Enow Etta is getting some Spring hype. Rayshaun Benny will be returning from injury.
have him be a short down back to draw media attention. That would put him over the top
nickname: Graham Cracker (is this wrong?)
Yep. I wouldn't mind seeing Michigan use Graham and Grant as FBs on offense in goal line or short yardage situations.
Imagine if we use either like William Perry The Fridge.
March 21st, 2024 at 12:51 AM ^
Well we know Grant has that Kaytron Allen speed, so that seems like a legitimate option.