@kmeinke Kyle Meinke
RT @elevenwarriors: B Dunn: "[Meyer] told me I didn’t have to worry about sanctions. Nothing worse is going to happen." 11w.rs/uph3qt
national champs baby
Does Meyer know, guessing, or lying? What he told Dunn
December 14th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
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Does Meyer know, guessing, or lying? What he told Dunn
December 14th, 2011 at 4:50 PM | 
I think Dunn is a good kid
I think Dunn is a good kid
December 14th, 2011 at 5:07 PM |
This
This
This this
On a positive note if Urbans guess is wrong we are back in the lead if a scholarship is still available. That's a big if and in the end Dunn gets screwed because urban just wanted to save face on nor losing a big recruit to us.
I poop excellence
December 14th, 2011 at 5:10 PM |
That all sounds too good to
That all sounds too good to
That all sounds too good to be true. I'm starting to think that the NCAA is just not ever going to announce anything and hope we all forget about it.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:25 PM |
Forget about
Forget about
what?
Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:32 PM |
Tatgate
Tatgate
Unless my sarcasm meter is broken, or it doesn't work over mgoblog
December 14th, 2011 at 5:42 PM |
Very much broken
Very much broken
Very much broken
December 14th, 2011 at 6:21 PM |
A day of studying for physics 240
A day of studying for physics 240
Tends to have that effect...
December 14th, 2011 at 8:55 PM |
I thought the Final for 240
I thought the Final for 240
I thought the Final for 240 is easier than all the midterms... took the class 18 years ago though.
"I would hope that understanding and reconciliation are not limited to the 19th hole alone." - President Gerald R Ford, Michigan '35
December 14th, 2011 at 10:16 PM |
e-mag is fun!
e-mag is fun!
240 was one of my favorite classes.
Be free to teach, to serve, to probe the unknown.
December 14th, 2011 at 11:25 PM |
Forget about it...
Forget about it...
I'm sure that's what Mark Emmert would prefer to do.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:50 PM |
Well, Gene Smith WAS did
Well, Gene Smith WAS did
Well, Gene Smith did serve in the NCAA Infractions Committee. I am guessing he still has a lot of ties there. It is not unreasonable to expect that Gene Smith is well aware of what is coming down the pipe and he relayed that info to Meyer.
It would be naive to think he is completely in the blind.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:18 PM |
Another possibility
Another possibility
is that Smith's connections to the infractions committee aren't as solid as they were, but he hasn't realized that yet. He may be working on the assumption that if anything more were coming he would know; that assumption may no longer be correct.
December 14th, 2011 at 7:36 PM |
Because
Because
Smith has proven to this point that he's definitely not an idiot...
If only Coach Mo hadn't gotten so drunk.
December 14th, 2011 at 4:54 PM |
Interesting. I could agree
Interesting. I could agree
Interesting. I could agree more, I just choose not to.
“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.” - Bo
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December 14th, 2011 at 5:00 PM |
I think your response is
I think your response is
I think your response is metaphorically brilliant. Bravo!
December 14th, 2011 at 4:52 PM |
sigh
sigh
Yes, TSIO already knows nothing is coming. Too connected to the NCAA. As terrible as it is, it is what it is. We will be fine.
December 15th, 2011 at 12:24 AM |
Sic 'em, Trojans.
Sic 'em, Trojans.
Sic 'em, Trojans.
M'Dog
December 14th, 2011 at 4:52 PM |
I'm guessing he knows...
I'm guessing he knows...
I'm guessing he knows...
"If you don't think you're a winner, you don't belong here." - Vince Lombardi -
December 14th, 2011 at 4:52 PM |
If he does know, and he's
If he does know, and he's
If he does know, and he's allowed to tell recruits, after the NCAA gave Ohio an exception allowing him to "co-coach" while recruiting, and prior to any official announcement by the NCAA... then the NCAA just annointed Meyer and OSU untouchable.
Class of '97: 4 Years -- 4 Four-loss seasons
December 14th, 2011 at 5:05 PM |
Fuck it..
Fuck it..
They won't be untouchable on the field. All we can do is keep beating them, can't wait to hear their excuses next year when we take it to them on their own field.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
December 14th, 2011 at 5:54 PM |
Wawawawawawait, they're just
Wawawawawawait, they're just
Wawawawawawait, they're just NOW annointing them untouchable? So what are we calling all the other stuff like letting the players play in last year's Sugar Bowl, etc.?
December 14th, 2011 at 8:54 PM |
They did vacate those wins,
They did vacate those wins,
They did vacate those wins, so that should count for something.
/s
December 14th, 2011 at 4:53 PM |
This is very interesting. If
This is very interesting. If
This is very interesting. If the NCAA hands down OSU any kind of penatly above what was self-imposed, doesn't this make Urban a flat-out liar? If they don't hand out anything additional, well..I'm not expecting much, but I'm not expecting nothing.
December 14th, 2011 at 7:38 PM |
what's part of the reason why
what's part of the reason why
what's part of the reason why Meyer took the job. He wouldn't if he and smith know that OSU is getting USCed
Playing football on Wall Street
December 14th, 2011 at 10:12 PM |
they don't have to get USC'd
they don't have to get USC'd
they don't have to get USC'd for Urban to be proven a liar based on what he told Dunn. He said nothing else is coming down as punishment. There's a big gap between nothing and what USC got.
December 14th, 2011 at 4:55 PM |
I have no idea what you are
I have no idea what you are
I have no idea what you are saying.
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
December 14th, 2011 at 5:05 PM |
You're putting way too much faith
You're putting way too much faith
in the NCAA caring what the media thinks.
This is the same institution that concluded Rick Majerus committed violations when he took Keith Van Horn out to eat to tell him his father was dead.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:13 PM |
Wow. I didn't know that AAB
Wow. I didn't know that AAB
That is heinous.
At least they did the right thing for Kansas' Thomas Robinson who needed to raise his sister after his grandparents and mom died.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
December 14th, 2011 at 5:40 PM |
If you are right that it's a business than it would be in the best interest if the NCAA to do nothing more to TSIO bc tsio is one of the only athletic programs in the country that makes a profit- therefore the ncaa will not castrate that cash cow even if it does have mad cow disease
To Hell with Notre Dame
December 14th, 2011 at 6:05 PM |
The NCAA does not make any
The NCAA does not make any
The NCAA does not make any money off of OSU. The main source of revenue for the NCAA is the MBB tournament. They make no money off of football and have a contract for the MBB tournament that is not affected if one team isn't in the fold. The NCAA has a lot of motivations, but "they'd lose money from cash-cow OSU" isn't one of them.
Go Blue!
December 14th, 2011 at 6:31 PM |
The NCAA does indeed benefit if OSU is competitive
The NCAA does indeed benefit if OSU is competitive
According to the NCAA website, fully 90% of its revenue comes from TV and marketing rights fees, totaling some $700 million.
The stated revenue from championships is $69.5 million, or 9% of its total.
The TV and marketing rights fees that the NCAA can command are higher if the traditional major powers are successful, because of the audiences that will tune in. If OSU is 6-6, their share of a national audience is going to shrink, making them less valuable in the mix. It may be indirect, but I think it's silly to think the NCAA does not benefit from programs like OSU being strong nationally, and being strong nationally would be a problem if serious sanctions were levied. Put it this way, if OSU, UM, ND, Alabama, USC, Oregon, OK, Florida, and LSU were all simultaneously in the dumper, the brand value of big-time college football would be at least temporarily harmed.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:47 PM |
The NCAA gets no TV and
The NCAA gets no TV and
The NCAA gets no TV and marketing dollars from football. There was a big lawsuit about it back in the 1970's and that's why our conferences set TV deals for football (and regular season basketball). What you're seeing is the NCAA allowing EA to use their logos in video games, and the TV rights to the MBB tournament. The revenue you see from championships are the ticket sales, and on site sales like that.
You could put a death penalty on all 120 FBS schools for one year and the NCAA would lose virtually nothing (absent the logo liscenses for video games).
Go Blue!
December 14th, 2011 at 9:39 PM |
Trying to convince
Trying to convince
people that there's no "cash cow" regarding big time football programs and the NCAA is thankless work. No one wants to believe it because it's not as good a story as believing the suits in Indy don't want to punish some teams because it would somehow impact the org's revenue. Point them to the NCAA's financials, and they're still not convinced. Bang head on desk.
December 14th, 2011 at 4:59 PM |
USC will likely do more than
USC will likely do more than
USC will likely do more than that. They may very well sue. They are getting nailed for 45 scholarships for the actions of 1 player. The NCAA deemed they should have known, but still has no credible evidence they actually did.
Ohio is guilty of obvious failure to oversee, lying, and playing ineligible players their coach new to be ineligible.
"because character wins in life and character wins on the football field....." 1-11-11
December 14th, 2011 at 5:29 PM |
It's kinda sad that the only
It's kinda sad that the only
It's kinda sad that the only hope for action would be through legal action from USC (which, I don't think would have any eventual impact on OSU...only the NCAA itself). Of course, the NCAA could take a strong action against OSU. Hell, they might even demand that OSU allows their former coach to retire with a severance package!
December 14th, 2011 at 9:30 PM |
where can we donate to USC's legal fund?
where can we donate to USC's legal fund?
Go Blue!
No place on earth I'd rather be on a football Saturday than Michigan Stadium !
December 14th, 2011 at 5:01 PM |
Sadly, I do think
Sadly, I do think
that's all they're going to get.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:31 PM |
"we're all educated
"we're all educated
"we're all educated here"
Are we, though?
December 14th, 2011 at 4:55 PM |
I Would Hope He Guessed...
I Would Hope He Guessed...
...because if he knows, Meyer knew and felt at ease to tell him. There's a precedent I want in a body meant to oversee collegiate athletics...not.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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December 14th, 2011 at 4:55 PM |
"Lying"
"Lying"
"Its not a lie, if you believe it"
George Castanza
"A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a danish"
December 14th, 2011 at 4:57 PM |
If they couldn't keep free
If they couldn't keep free
If they couldn't keep free tatoos under wraps than if they knew their sanctions already I'm sure they would be public
"I find your lack of faith disturbing... This is Michigan fergodsakes"
December 14th, 2011 at 4:58 PM |
If they couldn't keep free
If they couldn't keep free
If they couldn't keep free tatoos under wraps than if they knew their sanctions already I'm sure they would be public
"I find your lack of faith disturbing... This is Michigan fergodsakes"
December 14th, 2011 at 4:59 PM |
My money is on "highly educated guess"
My money is on "highly educated guess"
I doubt they "know" for a fact that they're not getting hit but I wouldn't be surprised if they're getting pretty strong indications from the NCAA that their self-imposed sanctions will be enough.
There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:00 PM |
Urban Meyer can suck my
Urban Meyer can suck my
Urban Meyer can suck my Sunnyvale balls.
I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:00 PM |
Urban Lier ?
Urban Lier ?
Go Blue !!
December 14th, 2011 at 5:04 PM |
If you're going to use cheap
If you're going to use cheap
If you're going to use cheap nicknames at least spell them right.
Whatcha gonna do, little brother?
December 14th, 2011 at 5:52 PM |
Oops,my bad..
Oops,my bad..
Didn't see that..I blame this droid...
Go Blue !!
December 14th, 2011 at 8:53 PM |
LOL GOOD ONE!
cuz "lier"
LOL GOOD ONE!
cuz "lier"
LOL GOOD ONE!
cuz "lier" (sic) rhymes with "Meyer"
Wish I'd thought of that myself :( :'( :[ :-( :-{ :p
Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug
67-22-3 all-time
December 14th, 2011 at 5:00 PM |
They don't know, but...
They don't know, but...
They can't know for sure, but it seems likely that things aren't going to get any worse. The NCAA doesn't hide the ball if you work with them. They'll tell you if your self-imposed sanctions are appropriate.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
December 14th, 2011 at 5:01 PM |
Couple possibilities
Couple possibilities
1) He doesn't know. In that case, if Ohio gets pounded by sanctions, Dunn suddenly could become available again, depending on timing.
2) He does know. There's still risk to Ohio here, though, if the NCAA floats what the punishment is going to be and there's huge backlash and NCAA changes its mind and stiffens the punishment. In that case, Urban looks stupid and recruits could bolt (as in 1 above).
"Mattison must break you. Jake Ryan is his tool."
I think Dunn is a good kid but he seems just a tad naive.