Dillon Bell predictions going to Georgia
Once 100% in favor to Michigan, Dillon Bell has had quite a few predictions on rivals and 247 from Michigan to Georgia. I know Bell is a WR/RB player, and the primary recruiter is Mike Hart according to 247, so maybe we have him as a RB.
Duece Spurlock has had switches from Michigan to Mississippi state too.
Hoping this means we have some other targets that coaches like better and think we have a shot at getting.
I'll place my faith in Mike Hart getting it done.
Agreed. I'm hoping we have a chance with Pettaway. Seems like the competition is PSU(who already has 2 top RB commits), UNC(Has 1 top RB commit), and Florida who also has a top RB commit.
Mike Hart isn’t a magic wand.
If Hart can get a 1000 yard rusher and over 2k for the group, one of the top guys will switch here because that means the offense is rolling, which bodes well for the record. Kids want to go where their position does well and the team wins.
Going to Georgia is my favorite Mountain Goats song
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Spurlock seems like he was a take only if they whiffed on both Jeremy Patton and Sebastian Cheeks. They look good for Patton right now. As for Bell, losing him would be a bummer. Let’s hope the staff has something up their sleeves
Isn’t Patton picking today?
Patton is looking to go to Baylor now....
Tons of Crystal Balls flipping to Baylor for Patton right now- guess we aren’t getting him either
Spurlock was slow played.
Bell and Patton would be two swings and misses, no question.
Bell is on a visit to Georgia currently and they're now looking good for him. He also said he will be committing next week.
We definitely wanted him as a WR and just last week he was quoted saying "I don't drop nothing in Michigan gloves" during a workout. A blow to be sure as he seemed locked up for Michigan for a little while now. The board at WR is expanding in response, with renewed attention on 4* WR Dane Key and an offer to super speedy Utah WR Cody Hagen (faster than Xavier Worthy in the 100m).
We cooled on Spurlock when things for Jeremy Patton turned in our favor. Patton is expected to commit to Michigan later today so buckle up.
Wow and as I was typing that EJ Holland changed his pick for Patton to Baylor. Not good
Yeah, I have been pretty patient with recruiting during staff change and covid but losing Patton, Cheeks, and Bell would not be great.
Looks like Webb and Wiltfong also flipped their CB’s to Baylor.
Why would anyone go to Baylor right now?
Seriously. Big 12 imploding...doesn't make a lot of sense.
There was a CB just put in for Patton going to Baylor.
One or two this weekend.
Cheers
Getting recruits out of the deep South is always going to be a crapshoot regardless of which assistant is recruiting them.
We used to do it all the time
Sad, we can't recruit the South, Cali, Ohio, but Massachusetts is wide open for us - so we got that going for us which is nice.
Let's face it, elite recruits may not want to go to a program where the coach is a dead man walking.
Yes and no. Here's a breakdown of recruits (per 247) from the SEC + Texas + Virginia footprint since 1999.
- Year, Commits
- 1999,6
- 2000,2
- 2001,2
- 2002,0
- 2003,5
- 2004,4
- 2005,5
- 2006,5
- 2007,5
- 2008,4
- 2009,8
- 2010,8
- 2011,4
- 2012,4
- 2013,2
- 2014,3
- 2015,4
- 2016,10
- 2017,8
- 2018,11
- 2019,8
- 2020,2
- 2021,6
- 2022,6 (out of 15 commits)
Those first couple RR years they made some inroads in Florida (and if memory serves me right a number of those kids didn't stick around/work out), but then that sort of dried up. Harbaugh then had some luck pulling in guys from that area (in no small part because of IMG Academy and similar programs in Florida), and thus far he's still doing okay. But overall it's still very hard to pull guys from the Deep South consistently. And I'd add that the 2018 class had a decent amount of attrition from the guys in the South.
Michigan is recruiting fine in the SEC footprint relatively speaking, but they absolutely will lose more than they win down there and it is always a crapshoot if those guys stick.
Has anyone from IMG panned out besides Ruiz ? Seems like they all transferred.
I hope JJ does, but yeah IMG hasn't been great in terms of impact here.
Anyone else want to say it? Seems like Hart isn’t up to Jay’s level at recruiting. But what do I know?
I'm sprinkling sarcasm dusting powder all over your post, searching desperately for the /s sign. It's in there somewhere, right?
...right?
Let's not act like Jay was out reeling in a bunch of elite talent either.
There was some dude who the coaches egregiously misused and just transferred out. He may have been a five-star that everybody was pumped about him coming to Michigan. Can't remember what his name is. Can you?
And he was so elite they never played him last year. Why would I care about the recruiting of a guy who cant manage the running back position after they get here?
Charbonnet, Corum, Edwards.
Additionally, we had atleast one or more B1G quality RB every year he coached there. Higdon was a 1,000 back. Charbonnet broke the rookie TD record. 2 Star Hassan Haskins has become a workhorse.
Most just hate him because of his last name.
None of those guys have proved much in college...Higdon was alright but lacked vision and ability to break tackles sometimes. Not that great in pass protection. Wasnt even drafted. A far cry from the running backs Fred Jackson produced in his heydey.
The other three...one transferred out he thought so much of the running back coaching. Corum was decent last year and Edwards hasnt played a down of college football.
Results do not change if he was recruiting elite talent which you said he hadn't.
Higdon not being drafted does not mean he was not a very good, 1st team B1G, running back.
Charbonnet transfered out because a 2 Star prospect Jay Harbaugh recruited and coached up passed him as well as the following years recruits.
Once again, complaints about Jaybaugh have no merit in reality.
There is no evidence of him being "passed up". That's an excuse everyone loves to use when a guy gets frustrated and transfers out. You think Giles Jackson was "passed up" too? The Harbaugh coaching philosophy seems to be play favorites with no rhyme or reason, i.e. playing Milton over McCaffrey and McNamara. Charbonnet had a good nor great 2019, leading team rusher at least, yet hardly played last year. Chris Evans hardly played either yet was good enough to get drafted? If he's such a good running backs coach why was he replaced?
Is it a goal to have as reliable of a rushing attack as under Carr? Because we definitely did not despite having an offensive line full of NFL players in 2019.
You claim there is no evidence of him being "passed up" but then point to him hardly playing...I would recommend reading Seth UFR of the MSU game.
Also interesting how you are concerned about evidence yet accuse Harbaugh of playing favorites without any. We are not at practices and it is possible Milton was superior in practice but it didn't translate to the field. Related, I thought I had read that part of the reason Giles left was because he thought Milton was mistreated. Also, Giles was an elite returner but not WR. Even before he transfered the reports were he was falling behind Henning, Wilson, and Johnson.
Running backs are just one piece of a running game. Run game design, overall terrible offense, blocking, failure for QB to be a threat on reads et cetera. Jay could not control all those things.
As for being replaced, it is simple as if you want Hart coaching here it made a ton of sense.
Haskins didn't pass Charbonnet. He was the starter and Charbonnet didn't pass Haskins. He looked decent though.
I'll give Hart a pass this year because he's in a new spot and has to form new relationships with a lot of these kids. But I do think people grossly underrate JayBaugh as a coach and recruit and I'm not sure Hart is going to be substantially better as a coach. Like, I really enjoyed Hart's time at UM as a player but you look at IU's rush offense last year and it was somehow worse than UM's in ypc (3.13 to 4.59), equal in TDs (12), and almost the same in total yardage (869 to 789) despite UM playing 3 fewer games. And that followed a general trend wherein IU's rush offense lowered it's rushing average while Hart was there every year (4.41 to 3.63 to 3.13).
Keep going to the few years before Hart got there too. It was higher then, and that’s before Indiana became good and had Stevie Scott in the backfield too. I’m really unimpressed with the production Hart’s running backs have had.
Yeah, the only reason I didn't want to bring those up was because that was Chaos Team Indiana and that felt a bit unfair given the shift in offensive staffs overall. But yeah, it was crazy last year people were clamoring for a Hart-Sheridan offensive brain trust at UM.
Again, I'll give Hart some time but I do think for all the undue shit JayBaugh gets because of his last name, Hart gets a ton of unearned credit for his.
Way too early to tell. But even if Hart is no better of a recruiter, I'm betting we'll see better player development under him.
I’m glad we got that new young staff that I and everyone else thought would be lights out recruiters…seems to be paying off.
Without W's or an electrifying offense there is only so much great recruiters can do. Right now their hands are tied coming off a 2-4 season with a below average offensive showing.
Nike wasn't built in a day, Mr. Jordan.
I get that but it’s not like these are top 25 kids, these are three star players that we wanted and they appear to be going elsewhere. I’m not going to go overboard over and flip out over recruiting but i don’t have my head stuck in the sand anymore either.
This staff as whole is unproven in the coaching ranks overall and I think the hope was that they would be lights out recruiters but i just don’t see that as of right now. Rutgers avg right now is 88.62 and Michigan is 88.72. That isn’t tearing it up. I will absolutely love to be proven wrong from a recruiting and coaching standpoint.
They've done great so far, especially the defensive backfield and OLB/DE. ILB hasn't worked out yet but this staff can recruit and they're getting started. They've done better than I expected so far so late in the recruit game.
Apparently you don't see this, jaded by getting set up by Webb and let down.
Your definition of great is different than mine. The last two years UMs recruiting has been outside top 10.
We’re in a lame duck situation and now barely can get 3 stars at this point. Nothing has been great about this team since 2018. Maybe my expectations for UM being a blue blood in today’s society is lofty as I think that’s dissipating but losing recruits to Baylor is ridiculous in my opinion.
We’re currently barely out recruiting Rutgers so no I don’t see it and I’m jaded by the results, not Webb.
The widespread belief that Harbaugh’s job is in jeopardy combined with the poor ‘20 season and an unproven staff means recruiting for this year is going to be a struggle.
The team really has to be show out well this year. I mean, duh, we all knew that. But recruiting is just emphasizing that even more.
Bell looks like a typical 3 star to me. I'm more worried about not getting Patton. But I'm also expecting to lose half this class before the season is done so I'm not getting too worked up over recruiting this year.
I don’t care where the predictions are going so much as where those predictions say Bell is going. I mean, we all gotta hit the road sometimes, and predictions are people too.
Wait. Scratch that. Why are the predictions going to Georgia?
Predictions went down to Georgia looking for a soul to steal. Predictions are in a bind cause they're way behind and they're willing to make a deal.