Dee Hart to announce on Friday
As per Rivals, this upcoming Friday. No press conference. No frills. Just going to text his decision to coaches that recruited him. Would be one hell of a coup for us. Hopefully he brings HaHa here with him. Both would be starters next year. Imagine Denard with Dee Hart in the spread offense? Nightmarish for opposing defenses....enough dreaming until Friday.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:37 PM ^
thats so far away.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:35 AM ^
I know Friday is far, but this is what I wanted to happen. I did not want him to make his decision after a visit from alabama.
Now he's going to calm down think about it weigh his decision and choose M. He loves us his mom loves us (the power of moms is ridiculous), his uncle was high on us.
I expect his commitment and and early enrolee. Plus I want another RB named Hart.
October 7th, 2010 at 2:31 PM ^
he is now coming out with his choice Friday night, after his game, and not at noon.
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/dee-hart-announce-friday#comment-form ($$)
Just saw TomVH's post, fyi.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:38 PM ^
This news could set up one hell of a weekend.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:11 PM ^
This would be a great weekend if all things go right.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 PM ^
Dee is good, but he is not starting over Shaw, Smith, Toussaint, Cox, etc.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:48 PM ^
I dont think we know until you put him out there through camp and see how he excels. It definitely wasn't even a foregone conclusion at all that Denard would be our starter over Tate this year. You never know. That said, hopefully we land the kid then we can specualte til we're blue in the face.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:48 PM ^
I am not sold on this kid yet. Would be great to get him but I hope he plans to redshirt next year.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 PM ^
You really think Dee Hart would red shirt if he came to Michigan? Devin Garner is not even redshirting this year. There is a 0% chance he red shirts if he comes here (barring injury)
October 4th, 2010 at 12:01 AM ^
I have watched RR get shreded by fans for "wasting" Devin's redshirt. If Hart is not absolutely incredible why not redshirt him? If he is clearly the best running back then of course he plays but I am not sold that he will be. If he proves me wrong, great.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:01 AM ^
I'm sure RichRod spends multiple hours a day reading Internet forums to find out what fans think of his decision not to redshirt Devin Gardner. That will have a definite influence on whether or not he redshirts Dee. You don't want to piss off the decision-makers at MGoBlog.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:00 AM ^
I'm sure RichRod spends multiple hours a day reading Internet forums to find out what fans think of his decision not to redshirt Devin Gardner. That will have a definite influence on whether or not he redshirts Dee. You don't want to piss off the decision-makers at MGoBlog.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:25 AM ^
Thanks for "not being sold"
October 4th, 2010 at 9:17 AM ^
There is a huge difference in learning curve between running backs & quarterbacks. A talented running back should be able to quickly contribute whereas a quarterback typically needs more time to mature into the position.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:39 PM ^
This.
Look at Lattimore down in South Carolina. Then, a young back has to be able to stand up to the physical punishment of playing a long season against other division 1(FBS) athletes also. I'm no expert but from what i've heard about Dee Hart from those who know more than I do, I see no reason he should be able to compete for playing time next year if he commits. We do have alot of backs but no one seems to have stepped up to be THE guy in the backfield. That's not a knock on our players btw...
October 4th, 2010 at 9:51 AM ^
That is an idiotic comment... Devin didn't redshirt because he literally cannot. We would only have 2 qbs and idk if you have seen the style of our qb play. If one of the qbs were to go down with a Devin RS. How fun for rich rod having the starter and then Jack Kennedy
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:59 PM ^
I think its WAY to early to say that.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:02 PM ^
He isn't? Then why in the world have we been making any deal out of this recruitment, let alone daily threads?
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:25 PM ^
how'd that turn out? Do you think Pryor has lived up to the hype at OSU? I don't. It is not crazy by any stretch to question recruiting hype. When I look at the utube highlights of Hart he's good but not someone I look at and say "WoW, he's starting next year". I am not sure why so many are infatuated with freshman starting, we don't want that. We want freshman to come in and redshirt with Juniors and Seniors starting.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:28 PM ^
we should sit denard until he becomes a junior. Talent is talent no matter how you slice it.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 PM ^
are you advocating that we should have started him last year as a freshman? He was bad last year no matter how much talent he had. RR even says he wishes he could have redshirted him last year. Freshman start when a team is lacking at a position. I would rather freshman not have to start.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:40 PM ^
So I guess with this logic Lattimore at South Carolina, and Dyer at Auburn are starting because of a lack of talent. I doubt that. RB is a position that many freshman in college and rookies in the pros can often step into right away and be very productive. See also: Dion Lewis at Pitt last year. Sorry but it is quite logical to think that Dee could come in and be more productive than the older backs.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:36 PM ^
See: Trent Richardson last year. He only had the Heisman winner in the backfield with him.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 PM ^
...and that is RR's philosophy that any kid can start if he proves in practice he deserves it. Unfortunately, practicing well and playing well in a game situation are two different things.
Assuming Dee Hart is blue through and through, he will be enrolling early and will have a semester to get situated and learn the offense. He will be given the chance to prove he belongs on the field. God help any team who plays U of M if UM can solidify a solid back along with a solid D.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:52 PM ^
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:09 PM ^
*sigh*
Which is better a freshman D Rob or a senior D Rob? A freshman Lattimore or a senior Lattimore?
You are completely missing the point. The fact that a freshman plays shows lack of talent at the position. I can promise you any coach in America would agree with me. Listen to RR's interviews. He always talks about "most freshman redshirt" and that "he'd like to have upperclassmen."
I have not once said a freshman can't come in and play but we do not want them to have to. We want every position to be so good that no freshman can come in and play right away.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 PM ^
into this argument. I think you want freshman, in general, to come in and redshirt. That much is clear. But at a position such as RB, I think it's possible to actually have good talent and have a guy come in and tear it up as a true freshman. The position is very instinctual. Sure Dee would have things to learn, but it's not insane to think we have decent RBs already and to still think Dee can come in and make an immediate impact. Now if we're talking LB, OL, DT, ect. then yeah. I'd be very worried if a true freshman came in and started out of neccessity. But I don't think Dee would be starting out of neccessity. If he commits and wins the job, I'd say it's actually a good sign for his future that he's better than a senior Shaw.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:50 PM ^
This is moronic. By your logic Reggie Bush wouldn't have seen the field his freshman year. You know the year he had 1300 all-purpose yards for them. I'm sure he only played because they had a real lack of depth there. Is it so hard to imagine a guy is so good you can't keep him off the field?
Here's another question: which is better, a Junior Steven Threet or a Sophomore D Rob? Obviously players get better as they get older, that says nothing of who is best equipped to start.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:54 PM ^
I am so confused. The responses I am seeing are so far away from the point I am making I don't even know how to respond to it.
I never said a freshman cannot start. Perhaps you guys should actually read what I write rather then guessing from other peoples posts.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:34 PM ^
We get your logic. We want to be so good at every position that freshman and sophomores don't play right away. Sometimes they are just too good to not play. I'm pretty sure if Trent Richardson wasn't at Alabama, he would start at any other school in America. Sometimes players are just too good to keep off the field, no matter what year they are. There are several scouts that consider Dee Hart one of the top high school players in the country, so if he lives up to the hype, there's no way he doesn't get on the field at any school he goes to. You have to understand that stepping in at RB is one of the easiest transitions when going to the next level, be it pro or college.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:35 PM ^
Maybe you should actually check your own words. You have said a couple times that Freshmen only start when there is not enough talent at the position they play. When it was pointed out that is probably the most ridiculous thing you have said, you completely ignored it and ripped on people for not reading what you wrote correctly. Here, let me try to reiterate what has already been said. Sometimes, when a player is really special, it is impossible to keep him off the field no matter how talented the players at his position are. I seriously doubt Reggie Bush played his Freshman year because USC just wasn't talented at the HB spot, you know, with the other future NFL draft pick on the team. Get over it, Freshmen will play if they are good enough to play.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:40 PM ^
Mike Hart as a senior, is a freshman running back coming in to beat him out? Of course not. Why? Not just becuase he is a senior, becuase he is a talented senior.
Everyone of you keeps putting words in my mouth acting as if I am saying Juniors and Seniors should play just becuase they are juniors and seniors. That is not the argument I made, not once.
My argument is that we want juniors and seniors to start becuase they are so talented no freshman can come in and beat them out. I was not that concise in the orginal post but i did explain that later. People just are not reading the entire argument. They are reading one post and jumping to conclusions.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:57 AM ^
I don't see what part of your argument we're missing. You say we shouldn't "want" freshmen to start. And that it shows a program has a lack of depth. To which I reply...I want to get top talent that we can't keep off the field. Having phenomenal freshmen recruits and having solid depth on the roster are not mutually exclusive. That's why I brought up the Reggie Bush example, because clearly USC was loaded with depth and still made a major impact.
October 4th, 2010 at 3:12 AM ^
October 4th, 2010 at 6:18 AM ^
came to Michigan for Mike Harts senior year?
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:51 PM ^
This is moronic. By your logic Reggie Bush wouldn't have seen the field his freshman year. You know the year he had 1300 all-purpose yards for them. I'm sure he only played because they had a real lack of depth there. Is it so hard to imagine a guy is so good you can't keep him off the field?
Here's another question: which is better, a Junior Steven Threet or a Sophomore D Rob? Obviously players get better as they get older, that says nothing of who is best equipped to start.
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:08 PM ^
You're going to use a couple of examples to refute the idea that maybe one of the top RB's in the country could come in an start in a backfield that does not produce? There's a difference between not declaring him the starting now based on hype and completely ruling him out in a sub-par backfield. Pryor's in the heisman race, so I'd say he's doing well. Who is "we"? I, and I'm pretty sure I can speak for Rich Rod on this manner, want the best players playing. The kid has great quickness, balance, and vision, and is incredibly well developed physically coming out of high school, he's a prime candidate for early playing time. What else do you want him to do? Jump over buldings? What does he have to fulfill on your rubric?
October 4th, 2010 at 9:04 AM ^
This meme that he was some kind of mistaken recruit is bullshit. He had two games over 100 yards and around 600 yards total as a true freshmen. That's good. He was limited by injury and the inability to break tackles--which could have been improved upon with time. I would take him right now. He was definitely worth recruiting.
October 4th, 2010 at 9:09 AM ^
He should have been redshirted and given the chance to bulk up. However michigan was so depleted at running back they just couldn't. He was the best running back.
I don't want D. Hart to end up the same way.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 PM ^
like him already. The rest I leave to the coaches.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:12 PM ^
Lloyd Brady?
October 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 PM ^
Dee commit = more hype/more interest from other recruits + me being happy
October 4th, 2010 at 12:31 AM ^
Dee is good, but he is not starting over Shaw, Smith, Toussaint, Cox, etc.
I like how you state this as though you know what the hell you're talking about it. If this kid is all he's advertised to be, he'll be seeing the field early on.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:35 AM ^
Then he would not start over Shaw, Smith, Toussaint, Cox, etc...
It is nothing but a guessing game on both sides of the argument.
October 4th, 2010 at 1:13 AM ^
I agree, but the above poster apparently thinks he knows already what's going to happen.
Tailback is a position at which freshmen can step in and make an instant impact. If Hart comes here (an "if" that people are taking for granted), and if he is as good as advertised, he's going to see the field.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 PM ^
a coup. Haha would be a coup of epic proportions though. Having said that, I doubt that one happens. I will be happy simply having Dee on board.
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 PM ^
I really see it going to down to us and Alabama. And since Alabama wants him on defense and we want him on offense and we have DENARD!!! I think we see a Hello: Dee Hart post on friday
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:57 PM ^
Alabama does not want him on DEFENSE, they want him on offense. But they want to use him in the slot as well, whereas Michigan wants to use him primarily at RB.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:11 PM ^
Per Chad Simmons in the Detroit News:
The thing is that Bama is probably going to put him on defense if he goes there. He doesn't want to play defense and it is that simple.
Our main competition for Dee at this point is Auburn. They do have Michael Dyer, though, so I think we're in a good spot.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 PM ^
actually he ruled out Auburn late last week. As of right now it is just down to us and the Tide. I am glad that you posted the article reporting that Bama wanted to use him on the D. I had not heard that. I think we are a lock to get him to AA.