Schemboeller C…

December 22nd, 2020 at 5:05 PM ^

Not for Iowa or Purdue apparently. Ohio State has been vulnerable in several years since Harbaugh has been here. I would say with Michigan's supposed level of talent, it should not be hard to not get blown out by 30-40 points. Even teams like Nebraska, Maryland, and Indiana have gone toe-to-toe with them and their talent was miniscule compared to Michigan's. Essentially, it should not be hard for a good coach to consistently under perform year in and year out and never show up for big games. Ohio State is not Alabama most years.

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MgoHillbilly

December 22nd, 2020 at 1:31 PM ^

Considering I can see grass instead of snow at this very moment, your statement holds true. But it's possible you have grass that doesn't go dormant up there in the winter, so when compared to a non fescue grass down here like zoysia which has gone dormant for the season and turned straw colored, your grass may in fact be greener in Michigan (even under the snow).

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The Pope

December 22nd, 2020 at 12:57 PM ^

A. Mullen has been to a conference championship game, beaten ranked teams, and won tough road games...so he has accomplished stuff Harbaugh hasn’t 

B. Wish Harbaugh would show some fire.  His lack of any kind of enthusiasm is embarrassing, especially for a guy who is supposed live with enthusiasm unknown...you know the rest.  That Wisconsin game should have embarrassed anyone connected to the program or the university.  No fight.  Just gave up.

C. Just read what the violation was.  That is soft ass!  This isn’t academic fraud or crap like UNC pulled and got away with.  Some coaches talked to some kids.  Who cares.

I am not the biggest Mullen fan, so I hate to sound like I am defending him, but Harbaugh is a total failure and criticism of Mullen shouldn’t make you feel better about how bad Harbaugh is.

 

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AC1997

December 22nd, 2020 at 1:55 PM ^

Look....I'm with you in that I don't like Mullen all that much so I don't want to defend him and I'm not trying to defend the state of our current program under Harbaugh.  I just think we have to be careful to grab whatever piece of the narrative plays to what we want to say right now because everything is in play.  

  • Mullen years 1&2 = 21-5, two top-ten finishes
  • Harbaugh years 1&2 = 20-6, two top-ten finishes

Sure, year #3 we saw them diverge a little when Michigan's QB room blew up but in year #4 we finished 10-3 again.  Mullen did beat us in a bowl his first year and upset LSU....but he also lost by double-digits at home to unraked Kentucky and Missouri.  In his second year he went 1-2 against ranked teams - indicating that he wasn't anything special and didn't play many ranked teams to begin with.  

This year, he deserves credit for making it to the conference championship game and they did also have a strong defeat of Georgia.  We're all jealous of that from our seats for sure.  But again....he went just 1-2 against ranked teams and finishes with an 8-3 record and a show-cause penalty.  

So is he really that much better than Harbaugh?  Ask again in a year or two and see if he's still keeping Florida relevant with LSU, Georgia, and Alabama or if he's struggling to 3-5 loss seasons like Harbaugh and a step behind those programs.  

 

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MGoStrength

December 22nd, 2020 at 2:10 PM ^

A. Hasn't really accomplished anything Jim Harbaugh hasn't already done

Hasn't he won his division several times?  He is lucky in the fact that Bama is in the other division and he still isn't getting by Bama.  But, he did beat UGA this year who is equally talented as OSU is.  And, he beat top 10 teams in LSU in 2018 and Auburn in 2019.  So, he's performed significantly better against top 10 teams than JH has including winning his division.

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RAH

December 22nd, 2020 at 2:44 PM ^

It is absurd to conclude that Mullen would have done better at Michigan than Harbaugh because he has a somewhat better record with Florida than Harbaugh has at Michigan.

The Florida job has the inherent advantages of sitting in the middle of the best recruiting area in the country, the school's admittance standards for football players are much more flexible, the academic expectations for players after enrollment are much less stringent, and alumni assistance in recruiting is far more effective.

I am pretty confident that Mullen would not have achieved as good a record at Michigan as he did at Florida. I suspect that he would not have been as successful as Harbaugh at Michigan. He certainly would not have been as good a fit in the Michigan culture.  (And there is considerable evidence that this would have been a significant disadvantage.)

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My Name is LEGIONS

December 22nd, 2020 at 12:22 PM ^

Sounds like he has been stepping on too many SEC toes...

A slap on the wrist, sounds like a recruit came into the high school coaches office when Mullen was visiting the high school. Happens all the time when coaches "bump into recruits" while visiting a high school to talk with the high school coach.

Mullen is a very good coach and in alternate history, would have been fun to see him here. 

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ldevon1

December 22nd, 2020 at 12:40 PM ^

According to the agreement, members of the coaching staff also had impermissible contact with approximately 127 prospects when seven nonscholastic football teams visited the campus and toured the football facilities on their way to a tournament in Tampa. The assistant coach had incidental impermissible contacts with several prospects. The violations were Level III.

These SEC coaches hated satellite camps. He knew exactly what he was doing and that's why he got hit with the "Not promoting an atmosphere of compliance" clause. 

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bronxblue

December 22nd, 2020 at 1:24 PM ^

Well, considering Mullen texted them to say he'd be there at this time and this place, it certainly wasn't some accidental bumping into.  

Also, this happens a lot of places and nobody gets pinched because it's usually not egregious.  For his actions to rise to being punishable, and basically "pleading" down to these levels of violations, leads me to believe they were more egregious.  

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