A Crazy Night of Football "Day After" Snowflakes Thread

Submitted by Mr. Yost on

One more thread to consolidate the thoughts on everything that happened yesterday/last night. Before the sports media world completely switches to the NFL.

Thoughts now that you've had a chance to process?

 

MGoDillon

November 8th, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^

Oh well! Won't take away the fact that they have a loss now to a 3-6 team :) but I'll chime in: the fact that it even came down to that is proof that they just aren't that good.



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Mabel Pines

November 8th, 2015 at 11:19 AM ^

and Jason sehorn made some good points. The neb guy was forced out. He can't push the MSU guy or its offensive pass interference. sorry, I'm not on the MSU ref bashing train. can't give up a 12 point lead in the end.

LS And Play

November 8th, 2015 at 10:18 AM ^

If we beat 11-0 OSU and then 12-0 Iowa in consecutive weeks to end the year, we will make a very compelling case for a playoff spot. The fact that this is even a discussion is awesome. 

DairyQueen

November 8th, 2015 at 11:28 AM ^

In some ways, I agree with that sentiment.

But.

I feel like that may be a little TOO QUANTITATIVE a look at it.

The bottom line, if a top-15 team beats a TOP-3 and TOP-10 team in back-to-back weeks. They would absolutely get in the conversation.

AND THEN, once in the conversation, the losses are the season/coaches/program-opener on the road against Utah (who could be a Top-10), and a MULTI-fluke play to end the game, I think UM can make a compelling case.

Also, let's keep in mind, this is a BIG if. OSU has all the pieces to be dominant (despite them clearly f**king around), and ANY team that can go undefeated has to be at least solid i.e. the talk is going to be about how weak Iowa's schedule is (and it is), but undefeated is no easy task (just look at teams fall every week). 

The real cognitive hurdle is not IF UM wins out. But "seeing" UM win out. Because at times (yesterday) UM "looked" clinical, and Rudock looked more comfortable and confident than he's EVER looked. But, Rudock and the UM offense has also looked "shaky" at best in other games.

If UM wins out. They are in the conversation NO QUESTION. The schedule is too tough not to demand it.

If they win out. You (and otherss) will believe they deserve it. The real reluctance is "can" they win out? That's a little hazier to imagine at this point.

But hanging up 49 points yesterday is a great start!

gwkrlghl

November 8th, 2015 at 2:25 PM ^

The creep of teams inevitably losing should mean that if we win out up to OSU, we should be looking at somewhere around 10-12 I'd say. If Iowa and OSU stay undefeated, that would be two wins against top 5 teams for us. Hard to keep us out at that point. We'd probably make it as the 4. There's a non-zero possibility of that happening

mGrowOld

November 8th, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^

Until the NCAA wakes us and realizes what every parent, school and business in America has realized long ago things will never get better.  Unless the officials are held ACCOUNTABLE for their performance they wont get better because there's no incentive to get better.  The fact that the crew that did the M/MSU debacle was assaigned to another high profile game is all the proof you need that nobody really cares how they do as long as they show up for the game.

It's not that hard really.  If starting with the first game of the season officials were graded on their performance (like school) and those "grades" were published you'd quickly see who was on the top of their game and who sucked.  Over time these grades would make it VERY clear which offiiating teams need to be assaigned to the highest profile games and which ones need to work Purdue vs Rutgers.  And you know what?  I will bet anything that accountability, public accountability, would force improvement in the quality of officiating almost immediately.

But the sad truth of it is the NCAA doesnt really give a shit about it.  They really dont.  So nothing is going to change anytime soon.

BlueCube

November 8th, 2015 at 10:29 AM ^

You would think it would make you work harder to get it right but it seems like they have gotten lazy assuming replay will fix their mistakes. Then you get locked in because the way it's called has to be proven wrong or it can't be reviewed at all like the play in question.

Even before replay was used in games, I don't remember this level of botched calls. It's really destroying the game. Look how many free points MSU was given against Michigan. I hope someone looks for a solution after the season.

Vote_Crisler_1937

November 8th, 2015 at 11:34 AM ^

Interesting that every college football team I know of does just this. They grade every player on every snap. At Northwestern, Randy Walker used to watch film to grade every player on every rep in their off season conditioning. Those who didn't complete full reps had to come in on Saturday and do the reps cleanly.

Do they do anything like this for officials? Why keep crews together? Why not slot the best back judges with the best head reps etc based on how they have scored in their reviews all season?



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Mr. Yost

November 8th, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^

"He was actually working through a little something," Harbaugh said of Peppers. Peppers didn't return kicks for the first time this season and was replaced by Jourdan Lewis. "We saved him for a couple other things. I will say this: the touchdown that Jabrill scored when we threw the bubble to him was diagnosed really well by their defense. I thought that play was trapped. The move he made and the way he weaved himself through there....I knew he was good, but he's really good. He's really good. I didn't think there was another rung on the ladder there, but he found it, and I told him that. I told him 'you're really good'."

evenyoubrutus

November 8th, 2015 at 10:25 AM ^

I like that Spartans everywhere are losing their shit over Jake Butt's (probably) drunk tweet about wanting OSU to beat them. They don't seem to understand the concept of rooting interest.

mGrowOld

November 8th, 2015 at 10:38 AM ^

What they're really losing their shit over was his use of the term "little brother" when referring to them.

And would somebody please start a class for high profile people on the proper way you deal with ill-advised tweets?  You cant say your account was hacked or, in the case of our own Jake Butt, claim it was plugged in and your brother must've tweeted it, just fucking OWN IT.  Trying to blame other-worldly forces (or in this case your brother) never works.

evenyoubrutus

November 8th, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^

At the end of the day it's just a tweet. If he'd said something truly awful that would be one thing. But Joppru tweeted out something like "if Twitter existed in the 90's I wouldn't have gone 20 days without getting kicked off" I am on my phone so I can't embed.

UMForLife

November 8th, 2015 at 10:28 AM ^

It showed me that both SEC and B1G have two bad divisions. M and OSU is going to dominate B1G. AL and LSU will dominate SEC. FL is going to win their division pretty much every year, just by playing defense. Refs are bad everywhere. Replay officials need to be held accountable. I will be surprised if B12 doesn't go for a championship game. I am concerned that ND with one loss is still in the conversation for playoff when B12 is not given any consideration. Hell with ND.

Bigasshammm

November 8th, 2015 at 10:34 AM ^

It's going to be a great day. I check my fantasy team to see what time I have to sit through watching the Browns lose again and realized they already did Thursday! Nothing but up today!

bluepow

November 8th, 2015 at 10:35 AM ^

We slipped a little with MSU and Minnesota but by keeping Rutgers out of the end zone our defensive unit is now averaging only one touchdown per game through nine games.  Not bad.

titanfan11

November 8th, 2015 at 10:42 AM ^

1.  The targeting call has gotten way out of hand.  What started as a safety measure has now turned to a sujective "Ooh, what a hit, must have been trying to hurt him, and his helmet was involved...#37 has been ejected from the game."

2.  I do enjoy some of the rules differences from college to pros, but I wish defensive PI was a spot foul and not 15 yards.

3.  Collegiate special teams are, well, kinda, "special"...anyone see the Idaho State-Montana finish?  If  not, check it out.  And I know that is FCS, but still.

4. I think Utah will lose again, USC wins out, and Utah won't even play for the PAC-12 title.  

5.  I love the chaos!