College Gameday (OPEN) Thread

Submitted by Mr. Yost on

Bye week for us...should be a FSU/ND scandal fest.

TMZ College Gameday Open Thread is what it should be. Yet, I'll still watch.

Mr. Yost

October 18th, 2014 at 10:40 AM ^

FSU fans are shitting on every other school with their signs this week. These are awesome.

Ole Miss was awful, they were the classic "you're doing it wrong." Miss St. was better, but FSU, this is some good stuff!

Mr. Yost

October 18th, 2014 at 10:52 AM ^

I think he got what most players get...a promise that they'll get their cut as soon as they're done with the NCAA.

I've seen this happen firsthand. 

These dealers have a reputation and they have former athletes who can vouch for them. It's bad business to screw someone over.

If you're honest and follow through, plenty of college athletes are going to believe you. You come to a college athlete with a client list in the hundreds and say "sign these 2,000 items and I'll have a $10,000 check waiting for you the day you step off campus...and if you don't believe me, ask any number of these guys and they'll tell you."

Problem is, this is still against the rules. But people keep saying "he did/didn't take money" or "they'll never find the exchange of money."

Yea, of course they won't.

I think it's either that, or what they've been doing in college basketball in recruiting for years is giving gift cards or they load up one of those Visa Gift Cards where you can spend it on whatever you want.

Those are much harder to trace back to someone. The problem is, it looks bad on the athlete when you walk into Best Buy trying to buy a 65" LED in straight gift cards. So I haven't heard of this method being used in years.

Which is why I think they just make the promise to pay them when they get out of school. I'm sure Manziel racked up once he signed with his agent.

SWPro

October 18th, 2014 at 11:17 AM ^

It makes sense but just makes the athlete look stupider.

 

The dealer has 2-3 years to sell some of the merch and have the money for the athlete instead of having to take the investment risk up front.

 

The dealer can just through their hands up and say he signed without me paying him.

 

The athlete will likely be getting a MUCH bigger payday as soon as he is able to move on to the NFL/NBA so why risk the playing time now (losing it could cost you big time in the future) for a small bonus when you get done with college ball.

gwkrlghl

October 18th, 2014 at 11:41 AM ^

Probably is going to depend on which QB shows up under the lights. ND has mostly beaten (not obliterated) bad teams with a narrow win over Stanford with the help of some ND Stadium Magic

Florida State has also looked solid, not great but has the benefit of playing at home under the lights. I want to say it'll be close, but it wouldn't surprise me to see a Clemsoning / 2013 title game redux

FSU 45

ND 20

Danwillhor

October 18th, 2014 at 11:44 AM ^

is the biggest "fraudulent sports movie based on a true story" ever made. About 5% of that movie wasn't absolute lies, fake stories and stretched truths. Oher was took in by a family to get him to Ole Miss. They portrayed it as if Oher hardly knew what a FB was, let alone being huge and having experience to the point that smaller local schools kept inquiring about him. Also, "Big Mike" didn't have a real choice in colleges. Again, they took him in but bet your ass he'd have been just a dude in their house had he chose another school. He was also admitted through a special needs admission loophole never intended for athletes as he went to COLLEGE with the reading level of a 5th grader. Oh, and how stupid were those scenes of America's Sweetheart showing that crooked but very good coach HOW to coach? Haha. Movie made him look like he couldn't coach Pop Warner and hired a dude that couldn't have had a gumpier face to insinuate it. Movie is a joke on so many levels.

SECcashnassadvantage

October 18th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^

They will get smoked by FSU. Everett won't be able to out run their D like he had with the past teams. We need to recruit the South hard. They play at 5 years old year round, run the correct lines, and can read a play before it's barely going. It's like an all South hockey team playing Michigan. I get ND has some players from all over, but not enough.

MGoGrendel

October 18th, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^

The have 6 year old Coach Pitch (!) baseball travel all stars - three teams (!) - after the regular season ends. Several states send teams to a "world series" that is pretty intense. Same thing when they are 7, 8, 9/10 (kid pitch), and up. After that is the fall season.

Other kids are doing the same with football - spring and fall leagues.

If you're not playing, you're at the sport academy training.

Perkis-Size Me

October 18th, 2014 at 3:33 PM ^

While I'd generally agree with you, and Notre Dame doesn't have as many great athletes as FSU has, this game has another one of those 2012 feels to it and some BS Luck of the Irish moments will happen. Notre Dame is not a very good team, at least not #5 in the country good, but I feel like this is the kind of game where FSU would absolutely shit the bed and let them squeak by. And we've got to put up with at least several more weeks of hearing Lou Holtz tell the world how Notre Dame deserves to be the #1 team in America.



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991GT3

October 18th, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^

Two schools who made the right coaching change and look where they are now.

MS, DB and Regents watch and think that could be us.

FWIW, I want DB out but should MS decide to keep him I still believe he could attract a top coach because money talks. BY keeping DB, Ross may pony up more money to recruit a top notch coach.

991GT3

October 18th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^

ND made changes until they got it right. Bowden was loved and a legend and yet FSU forced him out.

Both schools did what was best for the program.

Auburn coach was terminated 2 1/2 years after winning the NC. The AD did not like the direction of the program and made a change. Now Auburn is vying for the NC every year.

 

Mr. Yost

October 18th, 2014 at 11:04 AM ^

They did a piece on him...I saw sign him up. Love what I heard.

If Harbaugh 1 and 2 say no, Stoops is my #3 along with Mullen. I'm going to watch this game vs. LSU tonight just to see how he coaches. Does he go for it during the right times? Does he punt when he should? How does he handle adversity? How involved is he? Does he turn purple on the sidelines?

pinkfloyd2000

October 18th, 2014 at 11:23 AM ^

One coach I've always liked and admired is Mark Richt. And yes, yes, I know...his teams are usually very consistent, but often fail to win "the big one." Some exceptions to that have happened, of course (2002, 2005), and yes, Georgia HAS had some sub-par seasons under his reign (including his only losing record, 6-7 in 2010).

In any event, I can't see him really going anywhere, even though it always seems that there is at least a constant low-level grumbling about him from the Georgia faithful.

Anyway...he's 54 years old and into his 14th season at Georgia. The best he's ever done there was 13-1, in 2002, but he's got a 131-46 record there, and an 8-5 bowl record. That's not terribly shabby.

What do folks think? Would Richt ever leave Georgia, or is he pretty much an institution there now?

Danwillhor

October 18th, 2014 at 11:48 AM ^

so that would make him the Chip Kelly of the B1G, lol. Yet, he does it about as classy and clean as you can in the ess ee see. I've heard things and he could easily have a couple national titles if he sold his soul. I'd welcome him here but he'd never leave Georgia by choice.

Danwillhor

October 18th, 2014 at 12:01 PM ^

covered up and negligent deaths (not making fun), rapes (one resulting in a death above), academic scandals, athletic scandals, police cover ups, stolen crab, campus brawls, etc. None of it will get mentioned before how bad a bye week Michigan is. ANYWAY.....nd's offense is almost literally quick slants and rolling out Golson to either side out of the gun until he sees one of his wildly running about WRs break open. Really not hard to stop if you have defensive speed, well coached players and a competent DC. Their defense is Jaylon Smith. FSU is.....? I think Winston just wants to get out of this season healthy to go pro. Still good but not the same team as last year. This nd team seems to have that '12 feel to them where you know they're not a great team, a championship team, yet their opponents always fuck up or are having issues off the field or missing players or something. Every week it was something in 2012 (home cooking vs Stanford & Pitt the most egregious). I guess what I'm saying is that I think nd will either win close or get blown the fuu out.