Coaches are fired/quit immediately now?

Submitted by MonkeyMan on

Coaches gone immediately from Illinois, USC, maybe South Carolina, probably other schools I have missed- what is up with this? I thought there was a gentlemen's agreement to wait out the season- on both sides. Can anybody explain this change? 

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Michigan248

October 12th, 2015 at 10:10 PM ^

Sark came to practice drunk I think that's pretty self explanatory. Beckman was accused of abusing players once again pretty self explanatory. Spurrier has lost his touch and he's 70 no one knows he could be having health issues.

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Skunkbearcat

October 12th, 2015 at 10:11 PM ^

Sark and Beckmann were terminated for off-the-field issues, and if a coach is terminated for off-the-field issues, it is not unusual for that to be midseason.

Spurrier quitting midseason seems pretty odd to me. The termination of Randy Edsall midseason was kind of expected, but I'm not a big fan of firing a coach midseason for on-the-field performance.

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ESNY

October 12th, 2015 at 10:22 PM ^

The spurrier think does seem odd on its face but he's pretty old to be doing this and they've grossly underachieved the last few yrs. He might've gotten the old Mack brown quit or be fired. And i disagree on the mid season firing. If you are a dead man walking, there is little to no benefit to waiting 2 months. Might as well get the search underway.

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ats

October 12th, 2015 at 11:39 PM ^

Spurrier was considering retiring last season and probably got talking into coming back.  So at this point he was probably like, I'd rather be golfing and not dealing with all this negative stuff.  Plus it allows SC to basically audition the current staff and if that doesn't work be positioned to go after a top tier coach.

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Mr. Yost

October 13th, 2015 at 4:12 AM ^

You're the sympathetic figure...there's no WAY they fire you during the season.

George O'Leary is 0-??/ for the 2nd time in his stint at UCF and no one is firing him midseason.

I bet he retires after the year though and he was acting AD until today.

Why? Well, the man had that school in the Fiesta Bowl not long ago. Smashing Baylor. Yeah THAT Baylor.

No way they fired Spurrier unless it was something off the field. Either he quit on this team or it was health reasons. I could see the AD saying "we're going to announce that this is your last year" and Steve saying "I'll leave now." But that's still quitting on your team THIS year...be a man about it and finish what you started the right way.

Unless there is something off the field that forced Spurrier's decision, I lost some respect for him yesterday. I don't even care if he was told it was his last year (which I don't know happened)...you man up and do what Mack Brown did and ride it out with your guys until the very end.

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acnumber1

October 12th, 2015 at 10:12 PM ^

Going to be a whirlwind of coaching replacement fun come late December...glad we aren't expecting to be part of it this time around! 

/anti-jinx employed

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Mr. Yost

October 13th, 2015 at 4:21 AM ^

Mattison had very solid defenses at Michigan.

Were they this? No.

But he never had this talent to go along with the experience and the only time he had the experierence was his first year with seniors Mike Martin, RVB, and with Kovacs and a healthy Jake Ryan. And how did he do? We were what #11 in the country?

If you think Durkin is going to be this good every year...you're lying to yourself. Next year? No question. But the year after? No way.

That doesn't make him a bad coach though. It's like expecting Beilein to go to the National Championship game every year. Is he a bad coach because of the last 2 years? Hell no. But look at those rosters in comparison.

Mattison had SHIT offenses, no head coaching for his entire tenure. He was constantly left with short field position and quick turnarounds.

I said it Saturday. Rudock is a master of the 8-10 play drive that results in a punt...people bitch and complain about them...but how many of them end up in touchdowns after the punt? Maybe 1 all season? Maybe 1. That's it.

It sucks not to score, but Rudock's mentality about plays and O'Neill give Michigan great field position on defense. It's gives them REST. It gives them cushion.

Go rewatch the game from Saturday. There were 3-4 decent plays from Northwestern that resulted in a first down. Did any of them matter? No. Because they were all in NW territory.

Last year NW starts the drive a midfield and those plays are getting them into field position. Now they're at least getting FGs or if they punt it's pinning Michigan deep in its own territory. On Saturday Peppers was fielding punts at the 35?

Why? Field position.

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weasel3216

October 12th, 2015 at 10:36 PM ^

Someone said this in the other thread but I think durkin is hear another year at least. Guy wanted to see what Harbaugh would do prior to making a decision. Eventually he will go but only when the right job presents itself. I don't see him jumping ship for a Purdue Maryland type job but rather a school that has a good tradition but maybe feel on hard times. Maybe a SEC school given his ties to Florida.

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Steve in PA

October 13th, 2015 at 1:33 PM ^

I think Durkin is our Chad Morris.  He's going to stay 4 or 5 years and be paid extremely well.  If, and I hope this doesn't happen, JH goes back to the NFL Durkin takes over.  If JH does prove to be a lifer Durkin not take the downgrade to be HC that Morris, Herman, and others have done but moves to a P5 school outside the B1G.

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mexwolv

October 12th, 2015 at 10:22 PM ^

has become so demanding.   Results are expected immediately. The problem is that the supply right now just can't keep up with the demand.  There are just not enough good head coaches out there to fill up all the positions.  A lot of  Mac Level coaches are going to get their shot at new vacancies real soon and current P5 coaches are going to get nice salary bumps, too.

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BlueinLansing

October 12th, 2015 at 10:25 PM ^

turned into an executive CEO type position.  Coaches have to be good at and committ time to so many things that have nothing to do with coaching football.  There are tons of great coaches out there, but very few who possess all of the qualities of a Tressell or Saban who can handle all the other nonsense.

 

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BlueinLansing

October 12th, 2015 at 10:27 PM ^

fired or retired at North Texas, Illinois, Maryland, USC and So Carolina.  Only two of them are for winning and losing.  Its just an odd set of occurrances I hope.

 

After 3 straight years of 11-2 with quite a bit of NFL talent So. Caro. went 7-6 last year and had to win 3 of their last 4 to get there.  This year they have started 2-4  with games against Tennesee, Florida, TAM and Clemson remaining.  They weren't very competitive in losses to LSU and Georgia.

 

My guess is Spurrier just doesn't have the heart to slog through the rest of this season with a team that will probably lose 8 games.  Who knows maybe he was convinced to come back for one more year and it just hasn't gone his way.   No matter, this was shaping up to be Steve's worst year at the school.

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