Channel 4-WDIV: Tate to announce transfer (video)
Rewound DVR and recorded it. Badly. With poor audio, so turn up your speakers if interested...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZViRBV-Ews
Who knows how true it is. Hope it's not.
Go Blue!
September 6th, 2010 at 11:46 AM ^
I never suggested that Rodriguez would "trap" Tate. My point was, Tate can't just up and leave (and play DI football) because he felt jilted, and Rodriguez won't just let him go without talking to him. This is a different situation than some insolent player who doesn't like the new coach. Tate wants to be here and he wants to play. And Rod knows he has to prevent an impulsive decision by a young man who might act rashly because he didn't get any PT on Saturday. Now, if Tate doesn't want to compete for the starting position and wants to go somewhere else where he'll be guaranteed to be the starter, Rod will probably help him pack.
And on a side note, ever heard the Michigan alma mater, "The Yellow and Blue"?
September 6th, 2010 at 2:03 PM ^
I did understand your sentiment, but statements like
In order to transfer, Tate would have to get Rodriguez to sign off on it. He's in a contract with Michigan until his eligibility is up, unless Michigan lets him out. Otherwise, he can't go anywhere and play football.
certainly make it sound like you were stating that RR would not let Tate go. I think we all know RR will let players make up their own minds. And the bigger point is that we also know that RR only wants players here who want to be here. If Tate does not want to be here, RR is not going to keep him here because he thinks he knows what is best for Tate.
As for the "Yellow and Blue" line, I am admittedly burned on that one. I forgot that they changed yellow to maize.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:20 PM ^
Tate was at practice today.
*Channeling Joey Tribbiani
September 6th, 2010 at 7:12 PM ^
What's that, like, a cow's opinion? It doesn't matter.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:36 PM ^
Are you a clubbler also?
September 12th, 2010 at 12:53 PM ^
Just an ardent alum.
September 6th, 2010 at 9:47 AM ^
Hope he stays! D-rob took so many hits against UConn it is hard to believe he won't get banged up and miss sometime this year. Gardner is a true frosh, if it gets in and plays like it we will need Tate badly.
September 6th, 2010 at 9:50 AM ^
I hope to heck Tate stays because Michigan needs him. But the kid only has one life to live, and could be starting at 95% of this country's programs. I know it would be disruptive; and we've all seen that his Dad is a decent, thoughtful guy. But a lot of kids just really, really want TO PLAY. I find it hard to blame them, even as much as I love Michigan. If he goes wish him well.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:35 AM ^
especially if, as most people seem to think, he won't make it to the NFL. I don't know one way or the other if that's right, but it would be really hard to be a back up if you suspect you only have 4 years left of football and that you can definitely start somewhere else.
Staying is a gamble. Can he get better than the #1 & #2 guys right now? Probably, but he won't be faster than them and that seems to be one of the biggest contributors to success in the spread game. So it would seem he is likely going to be the #3 guy as DRob and Gardner continue to improve the other aspects of their games where Tate, theoretically, had the advantage.
He has some tough choices ahead and I feel for the guy.
September 6th, 2010 at 12:48 PM ^
Consider our "neighbors" up in East Lansing. Keith Nichol went down to OU, didn't start, transferred to MSU and ... didn't start. No matter where he goes, there is always the chance that there is someone better than he. Doesn't matter if it's football or anything else. That's just life.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:23 PM ^
Tate is much better than Nichol. IMO he could start at any one of a dozen schools.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:44 PM ^
But the face I saw on Saturday was a despondent one that wanted to be anywhere else but Michigan stadium.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:01 AM ^
UM has a great game, a new QB breaks out, and here is tate stealing the thunder by isolating himself and veiling himself with a towel.
hmmmmm....RR is prolly hopin tate just goes away and at this point so am I. Ron English sure could use him. Thanks for last year tate, you were certainly a gamer, but take your Babie dolls and leave if you can't get your attitude right.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:12 AM ^
is that if Tate transfers he's not letting down the fans or the coaching staff or anything of the like, or as significantly, as it lets down every single lineman and position player that Forcier is charged to lead who is not on the starting roster. for someone who constantly encourages the players charged with his safety to try harder, to balk after one game would be a large disappointment. up to this point his brothers have transferred at season's end when the program was heading in a different direction. there would likely be no animosity if he left after the bowl game (!!!!!!) but now would be a huge disappointment on a ton of levels.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:21 AM ^
Let him calm down and let him know he is wanted and needed and I bet he'll stay. We will need this guy.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:23 AM ^
One way or another, I wish they - the university, the coaching staff - would put this one to bed. If he's going to transfer, just do it. And if he's not, he should announce that he is unequivocally here for the rest of the season. This on again/off again stuff has to be a distraction for the team. I know it's a distraction for me and dammit, I'm sick of it.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:34 AM ^
in case anyone didn't know this (i didn't), the qb rotation was known as of 10:30 am Saturday morning. his not going in was a likely reality from the start of the game and only surprising to the fans when gardner went in. imo this lends credibility to the media prod reaction.
Joe Schad tweet
September 6th, 2010 at 11:48 AM ^
So is there any update? Or is this still up the air?
I have no inside info here, but my guess is that cooler heads will prevail, at least to the point that Tate will wait until the end of the season to figure things end.
September 6th, 2010 at 12:22 PM ^
I definitely don't want Forcier to transfer, and I'm not even going to speculate on it in any way...but I do have a question. If Forcier were to transfer today, would he still have this (sophomore) year of eligibility left? He didn't play a down Saturday, so how would the NCAA view this in terms of eligibility? Hope someone can answer this for me, thanks.
September 6th, 2010 at 12:24 PM ^
sorry if this question has already been answered...I just couldn't stomach reading 156 posts about this.. trying to just let it play itself out and not get absorbed in the speculation and fearmongering. Thanks!
September 6th, 2010 at 1:08 PM ^
... Have to sit a year, but they would just redshirt him.
September 6th, 2010 at 1:20 PM ^
If he were to transfer today, then this year would probably be counted as his redshirt and he'd have three years of eligibility. If he were to wait a few weeks, he'd use up a year and then he'd have to sit out 2011 and have two years of eligibility left. So there is an advantage to transferring now in that regard, but the obvious downside is that it'd have to be a rushed decision - and that some coaches might not want to accept a transfer without knowing all the facts of his departure. Personally, I think that one extra year isn't worth it. He should stick it out this season, see what happens, and then make an informed decision at the end of the season. He could well end up starting for us - you never know.
September 6th, 2010 at 1:22 PM ^
thanks for the clarification...one more question: If he waits a few weeks and loses this year of eligibility, is that based on him playing over the next few weeks, or is it based on some type of time constraint in which to make that decision?
September 6th, 2010 at 2:20 PM ^
The time constraint. You have a five-year window to play your four years, so Forcier's ends in 2013. When you transfer, you have to sit out a season; if he does so right now, that year can be 2010, whereas if he waits until after classes start, he will have been considered enrolled at Michigan for this school year, so he'd have to sit out the 2011 season.
September 6th, 2010 at 11:03 PM ^
September 6th, 2010 at 1:21 PM ^
Tate needs to check himself. If he thinks that he can not show up during off season workouts and then expect to be handed the starting job he's crazy. A Forcier has transferred from Michigan before so It wouldn't surprise me either way. I hope he stays but if he's going to continue to whine and pout about the situation then it's probably best that he does transfer to avoid being a cancer within the locker room. RR won't let this be a distraction.
September 10th, 2010 at 10:16 PM ^
Tate is a good qb, but in our system, he's just not fast enough to make the offense dominant. In a way, it would be kind of cool to see him transfer because in watching how much hype they were giving that boise state quarterback during their win over virginia tech,I really didn't think that guy looked that much better than Tate So think, Tate could probably easily compete for a starting job and have much more success at other schools in the top 25. It just happen that we have Garnder and Robinson who are both freaks of nature and thus better suited to our system. As far as his attitude, I think it sucks, because who in their right mind could watch Denard against Conn and possibly think that Denard shouldn't be starting...
September 11th, 2010 at 10:22 AM ^
Why you're getting upvotes...
Oh, yeah, you're not...