CC - Denards Comments
Denards comments about CC
"If it was up to me, I'd tell them he has to come back," Robinson said. "We had a pretty good season, and our future's really bright. We've got a young team and we're just starting to jell now.
"I see us in the future winning a national championship or moving in the top 10."
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/21577/denard-robinson-rested-r…
Robinson's success this season appears to be the biggest reason for Michigan to retain Rodriguez, especially since the sophomore quarterback is such a perfect fit for Rodriguez's offense.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:16 PM ^
I thought the Mike Leach style would best fit Denard.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:21 PM ^
I heard Ralph Friedgen was coming to M.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:41 AM ^
I prefer the Hoke for trolling.
December 30th, 2010 at 7:18 AM ^
Could you "shed" some light on that thought....
December 30th, 2010 at 7:52 AM ^
i love puns...
December 30th, 2010 at 10:40 AM ^
You'll shoot your eye out kid... oh wait, you said "puns", carry on
December 30th, 2010 at 11:46 AM ^
has an excellent defense.
I would not put too much stock in what he thinks.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:17 PM ^
I knew all of those dreads carried vast amounts of wisdom.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:00 AM ^
I absolutely refuse to lose Denard Robinson. He is too awesome of a football player and person. Whatever happens with coaches, I hope Shoelace is the centerpiece of Michigan football for the next two years. Otherwise, I will be really. fucking. sad.
Here's to Denard dumping an ice-cold bucket (bucket? there's a better word for this) of gatorade on Rich Rod this saturday. Twould be a sweet, sweet moment. Huzzah!
/drunk
December 30th, 2010 at 2:22 AM ^
Cooler?
/drunktoo
December 29th, 2010 at 11:19 PM ^
Robinson honestly has the most to lose from RR leaving. I hope if that comes to pass, the new coach can utilize his mad skillz
December 29th, 2010 at 11:22 PM ^
But so does the Michigan fan base who would never get to see the most exciting duel threat qb reach maturity in this offense.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:29 PM ^
wins championships? No.
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December 29th, 2010 at 11:31 PM ^
Quite an assumption. That our coach can't win championships and that some other guy could step in and contend for championships.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:41 PM ^
in the context of a change. So it was not an assumption of anything.
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<br>But since you have interpreted it as such, I will ask what in three years has indicated to you that this staff can win titles? The data says "great offense, poor defense and special teams." I do not know too many teams who won titles with that combination.
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<br>Could things change? Sure, but that is an assumption based on RR track record at WVU and not anything he has done here.
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<br>Of course, it is assumption that he will fail or that Harbaugh will lead UM back to elite status. Basically, this situation is one big pool of assumptions.
December 30th, 2010 at 4:48 AM ^
RR's first year there was nothing on O and some returning talent on D. From all accounts most of that talent (seniors) didn't buy into the change. The second year featured very little back on D quite a bit back on O but starting a true freshman QB. Throw in injuries to the senior RBs that were supposed to carry the team along with Molk going down and Tate's shoulder and you end up 5-7. Third year the offense explodes but the D loses the one piece everyone was saying they couldn't (T-Woolf) before the season. Throw in JT and Big Will (still has time) not living up to their high star ranking, Vlad never regaining his speed, and a lack of quality upperclassman (LC) and you end up with younsters playing against veterans.
With almost the entire team returning this year and a good portion the following year RR deserves the opportunity to coach. He has had only two full recruiting classes plus some others from his month when he took over after the 2007 season. Interestingly, RR has more starter from his partial class then LC does from his recruits in the class despite having a large number advantage.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:15 AM ^
Compare RR's first 3 years to Harbaugh's first 3 years at Stanford. You probably couldn't predict that Stanford would win 11 games this year based on the data available at that point, I guess.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:37 PM ^
Will a Michigan coach who does not utilize Denard's talents fully in the next two years win championships? No.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:43 PM ^
Dernard is the golden goose of the program now. He's our ace in the hole and we can't afford to lose him.
December 30th, 2010 at 7:54 AM ^
December 30th, 2010 at 12:21 AM ^
If that was true RR would be forgotten really quickly, but in this case I really don't think the grass is greener on the other side.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:06 AM ^
Does he like pistols at dawn or the rapier?
December 30th, 2010 at 12:13 AM ^
Smoothbore flintlock pistols, thank you, sir.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:14 AM ^
Rapier fits his quick style well. Dilithium crystals aren't fully warmed up at dawn.
Edit: Aaaand we come up with the exact opposite answer at the same time. I love it.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:05 AM ^
But I'll try to use it in a sentence:
Mike Tyson was rapier than any other boxer of his time.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:40 PM ^
Oooooh snap
December 30th, 2010 at 12:11 AM ^
Aaron Burr believes his dueling is more exciting and lethal than your quarterback's.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:22 AM ^
Robinson honestly has the most to lose from RR leaving.
I don't know about that. Harbaugh's building an impressive track record developing QBs. If he could turn a Division II guy into an NFL prospect, I think he can figure out how to coach Denard.
December 30th, 2010 at 5:01 AM ^
Who Andrew Luck? A top 70 player coming out of HS who is a prototypical pro style QB. Denard isn't a pro style QB and never will be. He is the most dynamic player in college football and I am sure after this season there are a lot of teams out there hoping Michigan goes with Harbaugh so they can poach DRob. Since he hasn't RSed he would still have two years left of eligibility.
Throw in the lack of need for SRs and others and I would expect another rash of transfers which would kill our APR. Harbaugh threw the team and university under the bus about academics and if DB brings Jimmy Jacka** here I will be greatly disappointed. Any former player/alumnus who does that doesn't belong anywhere near the program or university.
December 30th, 2010 at 6:24 AM ^
Josh Johnson was Harbaugh's QB at San Diego. He is the back-up with Tampa Bay. He started some games for the Bucs last season. I would say two NFL QBs is the START of a track record in the short time Harbaugh has been a head coach.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:21 AM ^
It should be noted that Johnson would have gotten drafted higher had he not been injured and missed the combine...or his pro day one of the two I can never remember. But yeah, he was a damn good QB at SDSU
December 30th, 2010 at 9:51 AM ^
Maybe. Or he'd have been drafted lower based on a poor performance there. See: Warren, Donovan.
December 30th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^
Uh, I think that's what he said. Josh Johnson's draft stock was lowered because he was injured for one of his scout days.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^
Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but I don't think Harbaugh coming here would be bad for Denard, all things considered. He would almost certainly have fewer rushing yards the next two year, but maybe not by a lot. Andrew Luck had over 500 rushing yards, and he's no DRob. I think what would also happen is Denard would develop as a passer better under Harbaugh who emphasizes more of a complex passing attack and who has a better track record of coaching NFL calibur QB's.
Also, I bet Denard wants to play pro football. He will either do this as a QB, or as another position on offense. Either way, having an understanding of a pro-style offense can only help him.
Denard under JH would be different than Denard under RR, no doubt. But I don't see any reason why Denard can't be an Andrew Luck type player who is slightly inferior throwing the ball and vastly superior running it.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^
I hope he does not make the same mistake that RR did.
JH will inherit a team designed to run the spread. So . . . run the damn spread or some variant of it that can take advantage of the players already in place, especially with Denard at QB.
Transition to a more Pro-style offense gradually over time if that is his desire, and live to fight another day.
We don't need another bloody noisy mass exit.
December 30th, 2010 at 11:41 AM ^
I think that's what would happen, to an extent. RR has been very successful running a very particular style of offense, so it behooved him to start running that full bore ASAP. Had he gradually turned us to the spread, we may have done better in year one (but then again maybe not since he's be coaching an O he's not as familiar with) but probably not as successful by year three because they wouldn't be as fully immersed.
Harbaugh has not mastered one particular offense like RR has, but he has shown the ability to be much more diverse as well. His offense in SD was fairly spread-ish, IIRC. It's been said before, but Luck also ran the ball a good amount this past season. So I think JH would use the guys the best way he could.
That said, our offense is also set up fairly well for a pro-style offense, if he decides to do that. We have very good, big O-linemen, we have solid outside WR's, we have a 4 year starter at TE. we have a pretty good set of RBs, a couple of the bigger variety, and a QB who actually can pass the ball pretty well. I don't think this roster is nearly as ill-fit for pro-style as our 2008 roster was for the spread.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:43 PM ^
I think RR stated in an interview with CBSsports that he ran the spread and didn't modify it because he didn't have many returning starters on O. It was easier to start over with these guys because they never ran a system. It would have been interesting to see him modify the system if Henne and Hart had eligilbity left and Manningham and Arrington had stayed.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:51 PM ^
That's a very good point. A coach is much more likely to keep a certain system if he has a lot of returning starters and/or contributors to work with.
RR had two QB's who hadn't seen the field in any scheme, and one WR who had. The RBs were versatile, his TE was a freshman (plus Carson Butler) and his OL was young too.
JH would be a very different situation.
December 30th, 2010 at 5:02 PM ^
It was no "mistake" to change the style of offense in year one. He runs the spread, thats all he runs, and he was brought here to change the offense and he did so.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:21 PM ^
Good for him. I heart Dernard.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:22 PM ^
No man is more important than The Team.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:25 PM ^
in response to anything said by Denard Robinson.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:03 AM ^
He posted a line from Bo's The Team speech and a bunch of people negged him for it? That statement is as true today as it was when Bo 1st said it. I love Denard, he has been everything I would want a Michigan Man to be to this point in his career. But he is not more important then the team. I believe Denard would tell you the same.
For those of you who read the line from Bo's greatest speech and thought..i'll down vote this..because im an RR supporter.
GO FUCK YOURSELVES
December 30th, 2010 at 4:07 AM ^
I believe Denard would tell you the same.
That's exactly his point. It's a joke, it was funny. And for record, I did neg you for being an unnecessarily harsh prick. Lighten up.
December 30th, 2010 at 10:00 AM ^
You are right , I will give you that ,But BO also said: " I think letting people go is usually a bad idea. It eats up too much time, energy and morale. That's why I'D much rather teach them than fire them".
December 29th, 2010 at 11:35 PM ^
Ridiculous capitalization intended to reference the strawman that pro-RR=anti-"The Team" aside, everyone agrees that the opinion of one, most, or all players should not determine the fate of the program.
But to act like the opinion of our starting QB, our best and most important player, and a guy who is so team-first doesn't matter is just another example of your typical nonsense. I'll care more about your opinion and less about his when you do 1% of what he's done for the program in just 2 years.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:29 PM ^
But when will then be now?!?!
Preach it, Denard!
December 29th, 2010 at 11:25 PM ^
I think Robinson's legacy will be downgraded but it doesn't mean he couldn't be one of Michigan's all time greats at the running back position. If he puts on 10 pounds with his vision, cutback ability, and his homerun burst then we are still looking at a guy that can put up 1500 yards from the running back position in more of a traditional Michigan offense.