CC: Baton Rouge Writer: "Take the Job Les"

Just no, brah.

Food for thought.  If Nuss had remained at Bama 1 more year, would he be in the top 5 choices for UM fanbase to replace Hoke?

I bet yes.

This is why coordinators scare me.  You can get a Muschamp or a Jimbo Fisher.  For every Bob Stoops there are a lot of non Bob Stoops.  Total gamble.

Seriously.  You have two guys (Stoops and Miles) with a national championship each, conference titles and multiple BCS trips and 10 win seasons.  Then you have a guy whose best selling point is one 10-2 season where he finished second in his division.  Outside of that, Mullen has been a middle of the road HC and a coordinator on a great team.  He's not an awful hire if it works out that way, but to put him ahead of Stoops and Miles is nutty.

Stoops is a pipe dream. Might as well say Gruden. Miles is a more proven coach than Mullen, no doubt. It's hard to say right now if he's a better coach than Mullen. Miles went 28-21 in 4 seasons at Oklahoma State, a reasonable comparison to Mississippi State. He definitely improved them but never made them a national contender. And it was a few years after Miles left before Gundy made OSU notably better than that. He's obviously done a great job at LSU, but it's not fair to compare LSU to MSU.

The downside of Miles is his age (he's signed through 2019 for what that's worth I guess) and the fact that he's shadier than Mullen. The other thing is I think Miles' "Michigan Man" cred is a downside, because he's cleary a divisive personality within the old guard. A true outsider might be preferable to a guy actively hated by some of the old factions.

as being slightly less realistic than Miles, but in terms of qualifications I'd say he's about on par, maybe slightly below Miles' quality, if only because I think during his tenure the Big-12 hasn't been as tough a conference as the Miles-era SEC. 

I dunno if he'd leave Oklahoma for us. Maybe the fans are tired of him (silly fans) and maybe he's grown weary of the situation there. The same is possibly true of Les. However, the only reason Miles is considered a legitimate candidate who'd be likely to come here is due to his past Michigan connections, which Stoops lacks.

Wins are pretty little things.

just about as informed as you are...unless I'm not. But if you've got any other sources other than what has pretty much been shared here since '07, what actually shook out, and Bacon's book...I'd love to hear it. I'm always in the market for more information or previously unconsidered perspectives.

I don't think that's true at all. In a lot of high-level business, if someone doesn't take the job after having a conversation about it, then they were never offered in the first place. And all parties agree to keep that as the narrative. That's just how things work.

If y'all really think it's just a matter of Michigan offering Les Miles the job...what would have stopped that in '07, '11, or even now? He would've been a slam dunk in '07, even with any sort of animosity within the program. Was that really the decisive factor there? As for now, maybe age is the obstacle, but I think if the conversation goes down...it's implied that it's his if he wants it.

He's got an NC, high level coach, lifetime winner from Michigan...the job is his if he wanted it. That goes for the last 2 rounds of coach searching as well. You really think Herbie's scoop gaffe was based on...nothing? Martin being out on his Do Not Disturb boat had nothing to do with the search being finalized? Or Miles inking a new deal right after all this happened was just a coincidence? 

Look, I would love to believe that Harbaugh and Miles would walk on their hands to get to Ann Arbor, but I think that's only the case for a certain caliber of coach. It's just, like, my opinion, man, but the way things shook out just doesn't add up. Too many weird things happened all in a row there, too much smoke...

I do not believe that Michigan is simply choosing whether or not to offer Les Miles the job. Again, if I'm wrong and he comes screaming in on a wild unicorn, then I'll eat his hat. But I don't see it. Nor do I see Michigan not asking "Would you like the gig?"

And if Harbaugh comes, I'll still eat Les's hat. And I'll be so happy to do so. But so many of us are seeing this situation through the lens of what we want...Harbaugh could've come in '11 if he wanted to put his foot down and tell Brandon that he wanted the job. He didn't. And I can't imagine him taking it now.

For me, it's not Miles' resume that scares me, it's his ethics. I'm not looking for a saint and I get that there are two sides to every story, but some of the stuff that Miles has been accused of doing is just shady as hell.

I'm not saying I wouldn't give him a chance, but man... of anyone on our CC list, he's the guy who would make me question just how much do I want Michigan to win...

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