Branden Dawson punches Purdue's Travis Carroll?
It appeared as if Branden Dawson threw a sucker punch at Travis Carroll during the MSU/Purdue game, and the incident is under review by the B1G conference. Michigan State has released a statement saying they have reviewed the play, and they have concluded no punch was thrown ... case closed. But is it? You be the judge. It looks like a punch from the angle provided, but the video quality is poor.
January 5th, 2013 at 8:19 PM ^
If The_Unknown aka MrMario isn't banned for good after this then I will lose all hope in humanity. Just wow. How was he allowed back on here? It's too bad BiSB left the mod team.
January 5th, 2013 at 6:51 PM ^
Definitely a punch. Sparty gonna spart.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:47 AM ^
Ignorant much? Now that the conference has reviewed thge videos, plural, you are truly an embarrassment, as are 85% of the other comments here as well. Amazing and ironic that people here talking about State and Dawson's lack of class need to take a long, hard look in the mirror, if any introspective skills exist, that is.
There never was a punch, as even common sense made clear from the moment "it" happened. But I know, it's too fun to attack stupidly and blindly, isn't it. How many here accused Dawson of something he never did again?
If it were State fans and the other way around, I'd criticize them, too, and have at times in the past, of course. I guess I just don't feel the need to hide behind being a Michigan fan to act like a complete jerk like so many here do. Not all, of course, but most.
January 5th, 2013 at 6:52 PM ^
Also didn't want to suspend Tom Gholson, so I'm not sure their opinion matters. We'll see what the league says. Did the refs go to the monitor during the game?
January 5th, 2013 at 6:53 PM ^
If that's not a punch, I don't know what is.
January 5th, 2013 at 7:04 PM ^
January 5th, 2013 at 7:15 PM ^
then Clowney's hit was a weak hit!
January 8th, 2013 at 9:51 AM ^
Wow, can I stop by and now show you what a real punch is, since you're obviously pretty clueless on what one is? You know, like the one that Dawson didn't throw, as a separate video angle conclusively proved to the B1G conference already. But thanks for showing all of us again what an idiot and judgmental clown one can look like when seeing things through a team's blinders.
Looking forward to your apology, right?
January 5th, 2013 at 6:54 PM ^
But it is no big deal, this is just Izzo playing 40 minutes of unnecessary roughness. Dantonio will be proud of his buddy.
January 5th, 2013 at 9:28 PM ^
...I believe there was a second punch that came from the grassy knoll.
January 5th, 2013 at 6:54 PM ^
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January 8th, 2013 at 9:56 AM ^
Can we all expect a big public apology now from you since you very publicly accused Dawson of something he never did? I mean, the B1G already reviewed the alleged incident and announced that there will be no penalties at all. You know, confirming the obvious fact that there was never a punch in the first place...
Make sure the apology is to MSU, too. You accused them of a coverup, right? How about you face the facts; you were 100% wrong in accusing a kid of something he never did. You accused a university and athletic department of a cover up. You assumed that there was a punch despite considerable evidence to the contrary, simply because you wanted to get in a dig at MSU.
Some people are able to root for a team without the lack of class shown here by you and so many others in this case. If people want to use the term Michigan Man, try living up to it and not assuming next time simply because you hate MSU?
January 5th, 2013 at 6:56 PM ^
January 5th, 2013 at 7:01 PM ^
Because Hollis and MSU's idea of an internal review would look at WTC footage and conclude it was a gas leak.
January 5th, 2013 at 10:14 PM ^
Extensive cosmetic surgery. Hollis, Izzo and the gang are no longer capable of a grin or smirk.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:01 AM ^
Perhaps because it wasn't even close to a punch, you moron! You know, as the B1G already confirmed after being much smarter than you and not just assuming, but waiting to look at other angles... You know, like anybody with an IQ over about 85 would have done. Oh, I'm sorry...
It's possible to hate a rival like MSU without being complete morons, as 85% of the people here have shown to be regarding this incident. Don't dare to call other teams and fans classless after what we've seen right here on this site. Accusing a kid of something he never did, accusing MSU of a cover up, and for what? To make most people here look like judgmental jerks who aren't even rational enough to wait until other replays are seen? Or to think for a moment, Hmm... If Dawson had punched Carroll, I wonder why Carroll never grimaced, moved, etc...
C'mon people, we should be better than this...
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January 5th, 2013 at 6:57 PM ^
Looks like a punch but you'd expect a little more reaction from carrol if it was, right?
January 5th, 2013 at 7:04 PM ^
January 5th, 2013 at 7:08 PM ^
Perhaps Carrol was more suprised that he was punched in the stomach/chest for no apparent reason rather than hurt. He seems to have called the ref's attention to Dawson afterwards.
January 5th, 2013 at 6:59 PM ^
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January 5th, 2013 at 11:43 PM ^
Tom hates it when you mess up his name
January 5th, 2013 at 7:00 PM ^
According to my Sparty sources, it is not a punch. MSU has access to other angles of video. According to them, Dawson actually is beating his own chest.
It is from Sparties, I know. But it makes sense.
IF it was a punch, wouldn't Carroll actually react to it? Like, be hurt, or at least flinch, etc. Also, there was no foul call. A punch is a guaranteed foul. Even if the refs missed it, don't you think Carroll and Purdue's bench would be freaking out over the missed call?
I know this video looks incriminating, but I actually will give them the benefit of the doubt this time.
(neg away)
January 5th, 2013 at 7:04 PM ^
It could be him beating his chest, but Carroll does throw his arm up in a flinching motion, and points to Dawsen as he looks to the official at his right
January 5th, 2013 at 7:04 PM ^
Well from the video, it appears that he does flinch and attempt to block it. Also, look at the top of his left shoulder. It looks to me as though the sudden movement is the result of an impact. He also looks over to the ref afterwards and points. Nevertheless, if MSU has other video, I'll trust them I guess.
January 5th, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^
It definitely appears that his body moves abruptly, suggesting impact from an external force (Dawson's fist).
January 5th, 2013 at 7:06 PM ^
There isn't time for Carroll to react. It cuts it off like 1 sec after the punch. It looks like he is looking at the ref about to say "what the hell?", but the video stops. I'm not saying it was definitely a punch, but it looked like one, and from that video its hard to tell what Carroll's reaction was at all.
January 6th, 2013 at 12:50 AM ^
to me is key. I doubt a player is going to look at the ref and point at the opposing player if the opposing player is beating his chest. The video cuts off right when Carroll is looking at the ref. It'd be nice if the video was a few seconds longer.
January 5th, 2013 at 7:06 PM ^
January 5th, 2013 at 7:23 PM ^
Even if he punched his own chest .. he threw the punch at Carroll, but his lack of boxing/mma training caused his fist to go awry, thus landing on himself. But the intent to punch Carroll was there ... I promise you ... the intent was there!
January 5th, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^
Keep in mind, post players get hit a lot while they're fighting for position (they catch a lot of stray elbows and such), so it wouldn't be a total shock to Carroll's system to get hit in the midsection. That's probably why you don't see much of a reaction.
I doubt Dawson was beating his chest. It definitely doesn't look like that in the slo-mo view. Maybe he was punching the air in celebration, but his little faceoff with Carroll at the end suggests otherwise.
January 5th, 2013 at 9:09 PM ^
The funny part is this: let's say the Sparty party line is true and he's just thumping his chest. He's doing it over a play he had no part in whatsoever and then goes to talk shit about a play he didn't make. Either way we're not talking about an abundance of class here.
January 8th, 2013 at 4:34 PM ^
Yeah, I remember all your posts here when Stauskas was yelling smack at the WVU bench. Oh, that's right, he's a Michigan player, so it didn't mean anything then, did it? Hypocrite much? So the best you can do after the bogus accusation is now that Dawson is classless for celebrating a bucket by a teammate? Really?
Again, don't call OSU or MSU and their teams and fans classless if 90% of you here are just as bad, if not worse.
January 5th, 2013 at 7:50 PM ^
It looks like a punch at first, but I can see it as him beating his own chest too after taking another look. Other angles of the replay should be able to tell one way or the other. Doesn't help their case that they stared him down right after doing it, though.
January 5th, 2013 at 8:24 PM ^
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January 5th, 2013 at 7:01 PM ^
I hear MSU's looking for a new SDE for next year. I think Dawson has the correct technique to be just as successful as his predecesor.
January 5th, 2013 at 7:02 PM ^
Definitely a punch- kinda pathetic sparty.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:04 PM ^
Definitely a punch? Care to come back and admit you were 100% wrong? Seriously, what part of it always being a good idea of looking at different camera angles before making a judgment didn't make it to this blog?
I'll help you out; it definitely was NOT a punch and you definitely should be more careful in assuming things. Oh, that's right, it was by a State player, so it's then always okay for any type of accusation, correct? And I'm sure you're not a hypocrite and always criticize pathetic behavior. So I'm sure you immediately came here after the WVU game when Stauskas was talking smack to the WVU bench and got a T.
What's that, you didn't even comment on that? Oh, you're a Michigan fan alright, just the worst kind. Arrogant, clueless and beyond subjective. Luckily, not all Michigan fans are like you.
January 8th, 2013 at 5:10 PM ^
I can see you're obviously passionate about this situation and thread, but there's no reason to make it personal with other posters. Criticize the posts all you want, criticize the posting habits of MaizeAndBlueWahoo or Eve_of_TheRivalry and whoever else you've replied to, but leave the name calling elsewhere.
January 8th, 2013 at 7:46 PM ^