Big Ten, Covid, Schlissel, and FOIA

Submitted by dnak438 on March 5th, 2021 at 1:56 PM

There's an interesting story in the Washington Post about the Big Ten's return to school and football and the way that University leadership groups tried to avoid public scrutiny.

From the story:

Not long after [Wisconsin Chancellor Rebecca] Blank shared her concerns with her colleagues, Schlissel wrote in an individual message to Blank: “becky, if you simply delete emails after sending, does that relieve you of FOIA obligations? I share your concern of course.”

No, Mark, you can't delete emails after sending to get around FOIA. How stupid is the man? (I am a faculty member at a public university and all faculty leadership get extensive training in this). It reminds me of the Brandon debacle

Qmatic

March 5th, 2021 at 2:03 PM ^

It's one thing for an Athletic Director to do what Brandon did. It's another when you are the President of one of the absolute elite public university in the country. 

blue in dc

March 5th, 2021 at 5:37 PM ^

If you read the exchange from the article it does not seem sarcastic:
 

“Not long after Blank shared her concerns with her colleagues, Schlissel wrote in an individual message to Blank: “becky, if you simply delete emails after sending, does that relieve you of FOIA obligations? I share your concern of course.” There is no indication that Schlissel or Blank have deleted emails to evade public records laws. Blank told Schlissel that her deleted emails are subject to disclosure through the Freedom of Information Act and she would be violating state law if she permanently deleted them. Schlissel, who has been Michigan’s president since 2014, responded: “that’s really interesting and difficult. Thanks for explaining.””

Even if it is sarcastic, it is an incredibly stupid thing to say in an e-mail that is in itself subject to FOIA.

 

DetroitBlue

March 5th, 2021 at 2:29 PM ^

That’s just . . . wow. It’s one thing to not understand what FOIA requires (even though that’s pretty sad for the president of one of the country’s great public universities), but to put your intent to avoid it, in writing no less, is beyond idiotic. I guess people really are just in charge of things for no good reason after all. 

SHub'68

March 6th, 2021 at 1:45 AM ^

"people really are just in charge of things for no good reason after all."

I've come to understand this completely over the past decade. The closer I got to upper leadership, the more clueless about every day things in the organization people seemed to be - like common sense and common knowledge stuff. Luckily (?) for me I never got any further up the food chain.

It doesn't help much that there seems to be a network that, if things don't go well, allows them to just bury it, take their golden parachute, and 'Dave Brandon' their way through corporate life.

Gobgoblue

March 5th, 2021 at 2:44 PM ^

Probably not different from what 90% of the other university presidents would do/say, but this guy really just keeps showing his bare ass. 

Bringing students back amid COVID to earn your $ only to say Actually, its not safe here, handling the Dr. Anderson fiasco, AND then imagining the proper course is to say "how can I cover more stuff up" is galaxy brain. 

AlbanyBlue

March 5th, 2021 at 3:10 PM ^

One of the best pieces of advice I got in my first "real" job was "there are things you do not ever put in an email."

This is one of those. Honestly, if he's this clueless, he should be sacked.

bsand2053

March 5th, 2021 at 3:11 PM ^

I have been totally unimpressed with Schlissle’s leadership.  Think it’s time give Collins the interim title and hire a search firm 

bokee88

March 5th, 2021 at 3:42 PM ^

I wonder how many emails he has sent and then gone and deleted as he suggested to her. It would be interesting to look at that, wouldn’t it?

Michfan777

March 5th, 2021 at 4:06 PM ^

The school really needs to axe him. He’s proven (both before and during the past year) that he’s just not the right guy to lead a large university. 

massblue

March 5th, 2021 at 4:28 PM ^

The comment by Mark was stupid, but, as someone who has been subject of FOIA, I sympathize with him. FOIA prevents people from brainstorming and thinking outside the box. This is particularly true when a totally new situation arises where no one has had any experience dealing with, and people tend to discuss all kinds of crazy ideas.