If it meant the suite was used for kids at Mott to go to a game
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
If it meant the suite was used for kids at Mott to go to a game
Brian should do this.
This would actually be relatively doable if not for the multi year commitment.
It's roughly what the HTTV Kickstarter was at. So if the AD was willing to work with making it happen, and there were some big-money donors (more likely for a charity cause I would think), maybe it's not so far-fetched.
That would be pretty awesome, but the 3-year agreement basically forces you to make the kickstarter for $210k and I'm not sure that we could get enough contributions to do it. Now, if the AD were willing to negotiate on that so that we only had to donate $35k/year and/or made it so we could go year-to-year, then I think a kickstarter would be successful.
In any case, I think that Brian/Seth should talk to the department and see if they can work out some sort of deal with them, because, even if we could raise $210k, there's no guarantee that the box is there by the time that the kickstarter finishes. I also doubt that they would want to hold onto $140k over the course of the next year.
It's something I'd be willing to help with if it ever got off the ground, but at full price it's just not realistic because $70K can go a lot farther elsewhere, the University would also have to subsidize/help out with the multi-year thing. I still think it would be awesome. Think of all the kids there who couldn't stay in the regular crowd because of all the issues, but could sit in a suite and still have a similar experience.
Assuming 7 home games, it averages out to $625/seat/game.
when looking at our home schedule and the fact we play 4 crappy teams:
1) Central - crappy
2) ND - worth it
3) Akron - crappy
4) Minnesota - crappy
5) Indiana - crappy
6) Nebraska - worth it
7) OSU - worth it
There should be another tier for "sort of worth it" because minnesota is still a divisional game (i.e., legends game that we should win).
A way to start spending the gold coins that have just been collecting dust in my Scrooge McDuck style swimming pool that really isn't as much fun to swim in as I thought it would be...
I got this, guys. Put it all on my Platinum AMEX.
I have a preloaded Walmart Visa card. Do you think they will take that as valid payment?
If it has $70,000 on it I'm sure they'll find a way to make it work.
walmart cards are solid. i think they're one of the few cards where you can deposit money into your checking account from your prepaid credit card.
It's not an AMEX if it's not made of metal. Here's my black card.
the original ones uses to be really heavy and fat, but then they started busting up the credit card readers so they slimmed them down. i think chase actually offers a card w/ a lot more metal in it in case you're interested in carrying metal around.
I've worked around high end bars for long enough to see about a dozen black cards. There is just something about the weight that sets it off.. it makes me think of the business card scene from American Psycho. The weight. The embossed lettering. The subtle refinement of the print.
I met Mark Cuban at a bar in Manhattan Beach, and he hung out with me because I was the only one in the bar who knew who he was (this was before he was doing TV shows and such). He bought me drinks on his black Amex. That's the only time I've seen one.
That is a cool story. If I could hang out with anyone for a few hours in athletics, I think he would be the guy I would want to hang out with. Seems really down to earth.
He was actually very down to earth. It was a pretty uppity bar on a week night, and everyone there was pretty dressed up, except him. He was wearing old tennis shoes, cheap looking jeans and a t-shirt. No one was hanging out with him because he looked like he didn't fit in with the ritzy crowd there, when in reality he was the richest guy there by a mile.
The real funny part of the extended story is this: I was there with my cousin, and we each had a girl we met there who were pretty interested in hanging out post-bar. That was before we met Cuban. Once I recognized him, I started talking to him and invited him to hangout with our group. He bought us all drinks, it was great. The girls didn't know him, so we bragged a bit about who he was making us look cool for "knowing" him. About a half an hour later he left with both of them.
(sigh) One of my Mgoblog heroes has proven to be just another guy.
I've only seen one and it was in Punta del Este, Uruguay.
I can't take those cards seriously after seeing one of the primo jerks on one of the Real Housewives shows wave his around. He got a furniture store to open after hours so he and his girlfriend could choose very ornate, shiny, gaudy furniture, and he credited that to having the BLACK AMEX.
But now none of you can take me seriously, since you know I've watched Real Housewives.
Boy, watch that show and you just keep on losing.
plat card is overrated... i only use it cuz i don't travel a lot so i use it to get into airport lounges... otherwise, it's better to just get an airline card or hotel card, like the spg card (you can convert spg points to 1.25 airline points for more tix).
think they'd trade for a 2 year old? (Just kidding, Goverment. I know you're watching me. It was a joke)
Never trust morons to overcome typos.
Edit: Not trying to call any posters here morons; just our overseers.
hoo u kalllin a moran?!
it wouldn't be bad if you split it into 4 groups of 4.... but it's hard to get 4 groups like that together for a multi-year commitment.
price sounds reasonable per person.
one thing to note... i haven't really seen suites for sale on stubhub or whatnot... would be concerned that there is not much of a secondary market so you really have to attend all the games, which is a significant multiyear commitment.
To be fair the people sitting in suites more than likely "give away' any unused seats to corporate sponsors/vendors/reps etc. I dont think they are thinking about making any money back.
The athletic department doesn't allow suite or chairback ticket posting on Stubhub. They actually forbid all secondary sales of the "premium" seats.
They have a "Premium Seat Exchange" that I believe is powered by Stubhub. However, once you post the tickets, they are considered a "donation" and you get no revenue from the transaction. The tickets can then be purchased by other Premium Ticket holders.
I like the concept as I am sick of having premium seats sold to opposing fans. However, those tickets aren't cheap and I don't see this eliminating premium seats from making it onto the secondary market via Craigslist, etc.
that deal sounds pretty suite!
davidhm, do you currently have a suite or did you express interest in one? how come they didn't send that email to everyone? just curious.
For the most part, they know who has that kind of money to burn. You can always set up a meeting with the person for your area if they don't know you yet. They're very friendly.
I was interested back in 2010 when they built them but couldn't find 2-3 others to go in on them with me. Premium seats ended up being the better value for me. Quite frankly, the viewing lines from the suites are poor. While the windows don't have frames, they do have seams that cause you to have to shift left or right to view around it. Yes, a minor detail, but annoying as hell to someone who really likes watching the action on the field. For schmoozers there for the atmosphere - AKA corprate entities - they have a coouple TV's you can watch.
The big plus is the ability to have alcohol in the suite. Yes, I know alcohol is forbidden in the Big House, but you get access to your suite the weekend prior to the first home game and there is no security checking what is brought in. Anyone living in Ann Arbor, ask your local purveyor of spirits and they will tell you they sell boxes upon boxes of alcohol for this very purpose.
I've never been in a suite but I've enjoyed club level several times and I think it's the best of both worlds. If I had money to burn (I don't, would one of you PLEASE hire my husband already?!?) I think I'd go for club level.
You can sit outside and enjoy the crowd noise, but you have chairback seats, easy access to warmth and weather cover if needed, and bathrooms with no lines. Also some pretty good food choices. You are somewhat removed from the energy of the crowd, which is a downside, but you're not as closed off as you would be a glassed-in box.
...and don't in the least bit feel removed from the energy of the crowd. My seats are directly across from the band and the students - which is why I chose them!
IMO, the worst seats in the stadium are:
The 400 Level Club seats on the 50 yardline would be well worth the $4,000/seat/year donation if they were open air. The glass is that bad!
Suites ruin sports IMO. No place I rather be than in the crowd.
I miss the old Michigan Stadium. 1927-2007
I was in a suite for Game 5 of the 2005 NBA finals in Detroit. It was the game that Horry hit the three on Rasheed. I was drinking free Bombay all game. That was the most electric crowd I've been a part of, especially in OT, sans the fact that the game lost the Pistons the series.
Suites can be a lot of fun.
But I was at Game 3 in 2005, and while it was rocking, it was nothing compared to Game 3 in 2004. That was the loudest basketball game I've ever heard. And I think it shook the Lakers.
Before the towers were put up.
Stadium is beautiful but I miss the good old days.
They ruin sports? How so? If you are someone who prefers regular seats, then take those. It's not like they're taking them away. But different people have different ideas of the ideal game experience. I don't think it ruins anything.
If someone wants to drop $200k to sit in those suites its fine by me. When you get a bunch of them together to all throw in their $200k, it keeps down the ticket prices for the rest of us
let's start up the kickstarter...
the way it could work is if someone puts up the schedules for the next 3 years and ppl commit to groups of 4 for each game at a certain price. if the aggregate price hits $70k w/ enough commitments, then we designate one person to go pull the trigger and then they will take care of splitting tix, etc. for the group.
Only $625 per seat per game! What a deal!
no doubt this is expensive... but i'm sure it can be tranched out by the desirability of the particular opponent... i.e., sell OSU tix for 1800 a seat and Akron for 150 a seat...
Akron for 150 a seat is not much worse than what you can find on stubhub for sideline seats right now.
There have been many threads on tickets but this may be the first domino to fall in terms of people not willing to pay the high prices to see central and akron. College football prices are entering into the realm of professional prices but instead of seeing Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady I get to see above average high school athletes who got MAC offers.
per year and aren't deadbeats, that sounds a lot more doable. The East side premium seats are nicer because they have that really nice indoor lounge area behind them. Personally though, I'd prefer (if I had the money to pay for them) the outdoor club seating on that side because I like being outside with the crowd and all the noise. But some of those seats go for about that $4375 depending on location.
I'd rather sit in the stands out in the real air and real weather. To me, the only advantage of suites is being able to take a piss without all the hassle.
As I live a modest middle class life and am not an alumni or big time donor, I can only afford season tickets for the basketball team and have to get my football tickets elsewhere. I get them from a former captain of a Rose bowl winning team. Given his status which has enabled this, he spends half of the games down in the stands and the other half in a suite I believe he shares with some others. Say what you will, but to have the luxury to choose whether you want to be down with the regular folk or up in the suite depending on the day and your mood would be pretty nice.
I wouldn't want to spend every game up there, but there have been a few that I wish I could.
FWIW, we have found it's also pretty easy to swap seats midway through the game, which might make "splitting" some premium seats with another family more feasible.
Anytime you leave club level, they give you a blue elevator pass which you have to produce to get back up there. So all you have to do is meet your party on the concourse, and swap the tickets & blue pass. So you could spend the first half up top and then swap with someone in the bowl for the second.
You're probably old enough to rock a pair of depends for the big games, never miss a minute of the action!
missing the #humble
he's being half-humble by canceling his suites at the joe and comerica... it would be bragging if he kept both AND added these suites at the big house.
situation - I have luxury suites at every NFL and NBA arena and will jet in (private jet of course) when I can squeeze the game in .....what with playing golf at Augusta from time to time and my yachting lessons...........
damn you charlie weis!
with this schedule what is going to happen next year when the home schedule really sucks?
dude, DB is like 5 steps ahead of you...
that is why he is requiring 3, 5 and 7 year commitments... to lock you in regardless of the schedule/economy/armageddon/etc.
suite owners didn't think it was a worthwhile investment. Requiring 3, 5, and 7 year commitments can actually be a detriment if your consumer is not seeing value in tying up that kind of money for an extended period of time. Given upcoming home schedules that are pretty weak that may be why some suite owners are already bailing after their original three year agreement despite the best home slate we are going to have for a while. In 2015 you have two marquee games, but 2014's schedule sucks and 2016's OOC of Hawaii, Colorado, and Ball State is pretty weak.
I was amused by your use of the word dude which is definitely not something I would expect from a 2006 Michigan Law grad.
based on goblue4evr, it sounds like these particular suites have been vacant or underutilized for some time.
the multiyear commitment is definitely an added cost, but i assume that the companies who buy these tix don't necessarily think about the games the same way as a typical person (i.e., it's another venue for entertainment and client development purposes, etc.). in addition, they're probably not looking at it as an investment per se, but rather, as a cost of doing business.
also, i'm glad that you're amused by my use of the word "dude". i didn't think much of it (as i probably say it daily), but i agree that i usually wouldn't type it.
and developed a serious hatred of the word while I was there as I thought my name had been changed. I understand the cost of doing business but with some awful home schedules coming up you have to wonder if companies aren't considering a different venue for spending their entertainment money for their clientele.
In 2014 you have 7 home games and not one that is all that enticing. At $10,000 a game you have to wonder. 2015 is better with MSU and OSU, but 2016's OOC schedule is Hawaii, Colorado, and Ball State. I love Michigan football but you have to wonder when DB is going to push it past the limit that people and companies are willing to pay.
and the MGOBLOG empire get one and we will freeload and use it like we do the blog.........Looking forward to my invite
i'm pretty sure Seth/Brian are doing just fine... this site has tons of traffic and traffic equals $$...
if you're worried about him, just click an ad or two.
I just bought one.
server on the east side and 508 east is one of my suites. in 2010 and 2011 it was the adidas suite and then they moved to 509 east. last year 508 was not used until halfway through the season when barracuda Systems took it over for the remainder of the season. as for 506 east (which is not one of mine) iirc this suite was being used by a shady ass lawyer who got the boot after 2 or 3 games for not making his payments in a timely fashion, after he was kicked out the suite went unused. since i have been working in the suites the unused ones become U of M suites for different groups, which ends costing the school money in the long run.
how do these guys tip u? i'm curious what these guys are tipping considering it's a corporation that typically buys the seats, but the guys who attend aren't necessarily the bigwigs (i.e., could be a sales guy who had a big quarter and is getting rewarded).
taking so long to respond to this been busy for the last few weeks... as for how i am tipped, there is an auto tip that is generated on each suite holders/host bill but that is removed as long as the suite holder has their food order in before the cut off point which i belive is either monday or tuesday at 12pm of that game week. after that its up to the suite holder/host to tip me or not. some of them are really good about it and some not so much but it is usually right around 15 to 20%. there are some suites that you bend over backwards for to help them out and they only tip you about 10% but i'm not one to bitch since i do have a full time job so anything i make at the stadium is just extra cash to pay bills with.
as for who attends the games, yes its more or less sales people or the people in management who the tickets have been given to because no one else can go. some of the companies pick names out of a hat so you have different people each week. one of my suites the owner/founder/CEO of the company is at every game with this family and friends and then he has a sales person or 2 there with clients. for the adidas suite the rep and his assistant are at every game and they have friends and family there along with some former players.
when it's random sales perosn or other employees in the suites the one thing that they do know is that the company credit card is on file so they never have to worry about how anything is paid for. I had one suite that kind of took advantage of it at every game because they act like they have never seen food and pop before, so they tear through everything before the first quarter is over with.