BEAT STATE thread

Submitted by WingsNWolverines on
Tomorrow our men of maize and blue head to their evil step brother's neighborhood to their home in East Lansing. Most of the experts are picking the other sibling to win this game tomorrow. I say fuck that, fuck them and fuck MSU. Michigan is going into that stadium jacked up and ready to bust some heads and seeing as it's the eve before the storm, let's get some pep and Michigan fury going on tonight by everybody posting their hatred of that school from East Lansing and that team from that other Michigan college! FUCK STATE! GO BLUE! Paul has taken residence back in his old neighborhood and would love to keep his home. The only way they're taking it from us is from our cold dead hands.
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MGoStrength

November 2nd, 2013 at 8:32 AM ^

Yeah, conventional wisdom would have to pick MSU.  They have the stronger defense, they have the experience, and they are playing at home.  We have the talent edge, but our talent is young, inexperienced, and doesn't have a good track record on the road.  We have the potential to win, but we have win the turnover margin, play sound special teams, and be able to handle the blitz.  I'm not sure we are up to that challenge unless the coaches really have these guys read for it, which hasn't happened to often yet.  We can win, but I'm not sure we will.  We may have to wait a couple more wins before we're ready to beat State on the road...man that's hard to admit.

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Leonhall

November 2nd, 2013 at 8:46 AM ^

To agree, why do I think this game will be different though? Why do I think that we will all of a sudden have an answer for their defense? I'm just hoping for a special performance from our team, it's just a gut feeling, I still have some feelings of disappointment for some reason...I just hope we look prepared, and have success, and don't turn the ball over. I think the first play we should go play action and throw it deep, right away.

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MGoStrength

November 2nd, 2013 at 9:16 AM ^

I've had that feeling a lot in the past 3-5 years.  But, more often than not that hope is crushed by terrible mind-numbing performances.  Don't get me wrong, we are the better team, and win this game if played at home.  But, on the road is a whole different story and until proven otherwise we simply don't beat good teams on the road.  I'll believe when I see it...like a few times in a row.

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Blarvey

November 2nd, 2013 at 9:46 AM ^

Dude, it's a college football rivalry game. Crazy things tend to happen and Michigan actually matches up well against MSU. If the defense can stop the run and handle their receivers (I think they can) then UM should be in pretty good shape.

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MGoStrength

November 2nd, 2013 at 1:16 PM ^

Well sure if our defense shuts down their offense we will win.  But, the same goes for them.  I disagree that we match up well.  What are our strengths?  Throwing the football and scrambling with Gardner.  MSU has the DBs to match up with our strength at reciever.  And, MSU has a good run defense.  Also our QB has shown a propensity to turn the ball over on the road.  To me all those give MSU the matchup edge.  MSU doesn't really do much well on offense so it seems likely we can keep them from scoring too much.  But, if our offense turns the ball over and/or their defense shuts us down it will be pretty hard to win.  I think to win we have to win the turnover margin and special teams, two things we don't typically do that well.  To me they matchup better against us than we do against them.

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MichiganMan14

November 2nd, 2013 at 9:01 AM ^

There comes a time when you simply rise up and become what you said you were going to be. Now is that time. Go Blue!

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mGrowOld

November 2nd, 2013 at 9:14 AM ^

I'm 54 and I dont think I can ever remember a MSU game where THEY were overconfident (RR years excluded) so this might be a first.  And try as I might I cant see why they shouldn't be.  Doesnt mean we cant win of course but I sure have a hard time seeing it happening....

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Don

November 2nd, 2013 at 9:49 AM ^

leading up to the MSU game since I arrived in A2 in '71. Maybe I'm just blanking things out, but I don't think the attitudes were this negative during the RR years.

Until Hoke can take his team on the road and beat a team with a pulse, that pessimism is justified, unfortunately

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True Blue Grit

November 2nd, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^

before and early in the season.  But, since the ND game, it's become obvious the rest of this season is going to be a struggle.  In today's game, the only real chance we have is to not commit turnovers and get a few big passing plays on them.  Devin has to have a great game, no question.  Anything less will be not good for us.  But winning today will be a great sign that Hoke may have turned the corner on the road game malaise.  

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denardogasm

November 2nd, 2013 at 12:22 PM ^

If we don't turn the ball over in our own end we should be able to win this game 6-3.  Contrary to what the whole world seems to think after last week their offense is still bad and our defense is still not bad.  This is the first offense we've played all year that actually plays into our hands by foregoing the spread trend.

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Mmmm Hmmm

November 2nd, 2013 at 10:19 AM ^

I think the pessimism is the product of a large chunk of the fan base thinking Michigan was "back" in 2011, and the overcompensating for frustration with not yet having the elite program we thought we saw in 2011 by going toward the opposite pole last year and going out to that pole this year when there is a perception things may not have improved.
This isn't to say that there aren't many things to criticize about the staff and players, but that may be why some of the over-the-top rhetoric has been out.

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Don

November 2nd, 2013 at 10:31 AM ^

But I think the greater reason for the pessimism right now is the suspicion/fear that the Akron, UConn, and PSU games revealed the true nature of this team, for both coaches and players. Our offensive and defensive lines get shoved around at the line of scrimmage, our special teams aren't very special, and we turn the ball over far too often. That's not a winning formula at any level, especially when playing good teams on the road.

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mikeelikesit

November 2nd, 2013 at 9:40 AM ^

I checked the sparty ticket website last night and could have aquired two seats in the lower level row 65 for $166 dollars. This is a HUGE game and tickets are face value? I went in 2011 and a drunk RCMB walked past three male Michigan fans, myself and when he got to my high school son he grabbed his arm and asked him if he was a walmart wolverine, and it did not get any better the rest of the afternoon. No thanks on the face value tickets. 

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Bluemandew

November 2nd, 2013 at 10:07 AM ^

I have been debating with my dad all week what provides better sparty schaudenfruede, a 2-0 nothing michigan win or a 42-14 blow out. While I think it would be better with the win by a safety I am not sure my heart could take that game. So blow out it is!

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